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One of the most brilliant coups in Suns history was when they signed Tom Chambers as a free agent. The Colangelos had targeted him from start, got to him first, made a very strong offer, got an oral agreement, and then all but hid him until the declaration date so no other team had a chance to even talk to him.

For most teams, the more popular strategy has been to target someone that the team has only a minimal chance of signing, then turn to their second choice, third, and so on down the line. Sometimes this works, but more often it means the player is taken before the team even gets a chance to talk.

The idea of targeting the right player from the start is one that has worked for the Suns in the past, but it means NOT going after RFA's or guys who are going to be really difficult to sign.

How does this effect the Suns strategy this summer? My guess is that they will not chase Kobe, at least not seriously. They'll may just make their offer and then immediately go after the guys they think they can get IMMEDIATELY.

My guess would be that they will focus on Nash or Brent Barry. I'm not enthusiastic about Nash, but the Suns like him and it sounds like Mark Cuban has been slow at getting him tied down. This is a deal that has to be done quickly or not at all because the longer you wait the more likely Cuban will price him out of reach.

Most reports are that Brent Barry is going to leave the Sonics. It's partly over the length of the contract, but that is symbolic of a deeper rift with their management. BB is on the radar of at 3/4ths of all the teams in the NBA, but the teams with cap space are more limited. The Suns cannot afford to hesitate because Denver could be a very strong competitor here.

Signing their PG should be the Suns first priority. As much as I want the Suns to get a center, I am not sure there is anyone I want that they could get for a good price by acting quickly. Dampier and Camby only make sense late in the summer when their huge initial demands are either met or shot down. I don't like Okur, but his situation is the same in that he wants far more money than he's worth. Patience is the only viable strategy for any of these guys.

The mid priced guys like Foyle, Blount, and Etan Thomas are a mixed bag. Foyle and Blount might be picked up by moving fast. Neither is expected to get more than MLE from most reports, so a pre-emptive bid could change the dynamic. It means overpaying, but not as much as the upper end centers.

Etan Thomas is a restricted free agent. This means that the Wizzards would have 15 days to match. For that reason, he would be my third choice because I think the Wizzards will match.

What about everyone else? Kenyon Martin, Crawford, and Swift both RFA's. Martin seems likely to be be extremely expensive and would lock up most of the cap space during the waiting period. The Bulls seem certain to resign Crawford and then trade him. It is very unlikely that the Grizzlies would not match on Swift.

Some of the other guys are just not a good fit for the Suns. Brian Skinner is considered too small to play center even with the Bucks. The Kings are willing to pay Divac a lot of money to play another year. Troy Hudson is coming off an injury riddled year and is a "shoot first" PG anyway.

Other big men include Keon Clark (don't hold your breath), Michael Doleac, and Greg Ostertag. I'm not sure just how cheap Ostertag would have to be for the Suns to sign him, but it would have to be really, really cheap.

On the big side, I'm not very optomistic that they can get the job done through free agency. IMHO, Resigning Dice is hardly a dramatic move, but it makes more sense than grossly overpaying Okur or taking a bargain basement reject.
 

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George O'Brien said:
I'm not sure just how cheap Ostertag would have to be for the Suns to sign him, but it would have to be really, really cheap.

anything more than a million would be too much.
 
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offset said:
anything more than a million would be too much.

Sounds about right.

BTW, there was talk that Ostertag might end up in Dallas. I wonder if their taking Pavel changes that. :confused:

Actually, I think Tag will end up in Atlanta where he will back up Joel Przybilla. :p
 

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Here are the free agents and restricted free agents from realgm.
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Note: If a player's team reads "Free Agent" it means the player has either been renounced, waived, bought out, or is undrafted and their former teams no longer hold any rights over them.

Player Team Type

Jason Collier Atlanta Free Agent
Obinna Ekezie Atlanta Free Agent
Mamadou N'Diaye Atlanta Free Agent
Wesley Person Atlanta Free Agent
Joel Przybilla Atlanta Restricted Free Agent
Zeljko Rebracca Atlanta Free Agent
Bob Sura Atlanta Free Agent
Jacque Vaughn Atlanta Free Agent

Dana Barros Boston Free Agent
Mark Blount Boston Free Agent
Ernest Brown Boston Free Agent
Chris Mihm Boston Restricted Free Agent

All of Charlotte players are now free agents and can sign with anyone.
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Lonny Baxter Charlotte Free Agent
J.R. Bremer Charlotte Free Agent
Maurice Carter Charlotte Free Agent
Desmond Ferguson Charlotte Free Agent
Marcus Fizer Charlotte Restricted Free Agent
Tamar Slay Charlotte Free Agent
Jeff Trepagnier Charlotte Free Agent
Loren Woods Charlotte Free Agent

Jamal Crawford Chicago Restricted Free Agent
Ronald Dupree Chicago Free Agent
Kendall Gill Chicago Free Agent
Linton Johnson Chicago Free Agent
Jannero Pargo Chicago Free Agent
Paul Shirley Chicago Free Agent

Ruben Boumtje Boumtje Cleveland Free Agent
Lee Nailon Cleveland Free Agent
Eric Williams Cleveland Free Agent

Travis Best Dallas Free Agent
Marquis Daniels Dallas Free Agent
Scott Williams Dallas Free Agent

Chris Andersen Denver Free Agent
Jon Barry Denver Free Agent
Ryan Bowen Denver Free Agent
Marcus Camby Denver Free Agent
Michael Doleac Denver Free Agent
Mark Pope Denver Free Agent
Rodney White Denver Free Agent

Tremaine Fowlkes Detroit Free Agent
Darvin Ham Detroit Free Agent
Lindsey Hunter Detroit Free Agent
Mike James Detroit Free Agent
Mehmet Okur Detroit Free Agent
Rasheed Wallace Detroit Free Agent

Brian Cardinal Golden State Free Agent
Calbert Cheaney Golden State Free Agent
Adonal Foyle Golden State Free Agent
Avery Johnson Golden State Free Agent

Mark Jackson Houston Free Agent
Scott Padgett Houston Free Agent
Mike Wilks Houston Free Agent

Kenny Anderson Indiana Free Agent
Jamison Brewer Indiana Free Agent

Matt Barnes L.A. Clippers Free Agent
Keyon Dooling L.A. Clippers Restricted Free Agent
Josh Moore L.A. Clippers Free Agent
Doug Overton L.A. Clippers Free Agent
Quentin Richardson L.A. Clippers Restricted Free Agent
Bobby Simmons L.A. Clippers Free Agent

Kobe Bryant L.A. Lakers Free Agent
Horace Grant L.A. Lakers Free Agent
Karl Malone L.A. Lakers Free Agent
Stanislav Medvedenko L.A. Lakers Free Agent
Bryon Russell L.A. Lakers Free Agent

Stromile Swift Memphis Restricted Free Agent
Jake Tsakalidis Memphis Restricted Free Agent

Rafer Alston Miami Free Agent
Rasual Butler Miami Free Agent
Bimbo Coles Miami Free Agent
Samaki Walker Miami Free Agent
John Wallace Miami Free Agent
Wang Zhizhi Miami Free Agent

Damon Jones Milwaukee Free Agent
Brevin Knight Milwaukee Free Agent
Toni Kukoc Milwaukee Free Agent

Trenton Hassell Minnesota Free Agent
Fred Hoiberg Minnesota Free Agent
Troy Hudson Minnesota Free Agent
Darrick Martin Minnesota Free Agent
Oliver Miller Minnesota Free Agent
Gary Trent Minnesota Free Agent

Brandon Armstrong New Jersey Free Agent
Hubert Davis New Jersey Free Agent
Kenyon Martin New Jersey Restricted Free Agent

Courtney Alexander New Orleans Restricted Free Agent
Stacey Augmon New Orleans Free Agent

Alex Garcia New Orleans Free Agent
Steve Smith New Orleans Free Agent
Robert Traylor New Orleans Free Agent
Shammond Williams New Orleans Free Agent

Vin Baker New York Free Agent
DerMarr Johnson New York Free Agent

Derrick Dial Orlando Free Agent
Steven Hunter Orlando Free Agent
Britton Johnsen Orlando Free Agent
Sean Rooks Orlando Free Agent
DeShawn Stevenson Orlando Restricted Free Agent

Zendon Hamilton Philadelphia Free Agent
Amal McCaskill Philadelphia Free Agent

Keon Clark Phoenix Free Agent
Donnell Harvey Phoenix Free Agent
Antonio McDyess Phoenix Free Agent

Darius Miles Portland Restricted Free Agent

Rodney Buford Sacramento Free Agent
Vlade Divac Sacramento Free Agent
Tony Massenburg Sacramento Free Agent
Jabari Smith Sacramento Free Agent

Bruce Bowen San Antonio Free Agent
Matt Carroll San Antonio Free Agent
Manu Ginobili San Antonio Free Agent
Jason Hart San Antonio Free Agent
Sean Marks San Antonio Free Agent
Hidayet Turkoglu San Antonio Restricted Free Agent
Charlie Ward San Antonio Free Agent
Kevin Willis San Antonio Free Agent

Brent Barry Seattle Free Agent
Ansu Sesay Seattle Free Agent

Robert Archibald Toronto Free Agent
Corie Blount Toronto Free Agent
Michael Curry Toronto Free Agent
Dion Glover Toronto Free Agent
Morris Peterson Toronto Restricted Free Agent
Rod Strickland Toronto Free Agent

Carlos Arroyo Utah Free Agent
Jarron Collins Utah Free Agent
Gordan Giricek Utah Free Agent
Tom Gugliotta Utah Free Agent
Mikki Moore Utah Free Agent
Greg Ostertag Utah Free Agent
Michael Ruffin Utah Free Agent
Mo Williams Utah Free Agent

Mitchell Butler Washington Free Agent
Etan Thomas Washington Restricted Free Agent
Chris Whitney Washington Free Agent


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With $15 million, the Suns should get either one super star (Kobe) or two starters. I didn't get into every FA because 95% of them aren't much better than what the Suns already have. There are some nice players like Manu, but I think the Suns would rather have an experienced PG.
 

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George O'Brien said:
One of the most brilliant coups in Suns history was when they signed Tom Chambers as a free agent. The Colangelos had targeted him from start, got to him first, made a very strong offer, got an oral agreement, and then all but hid him until the declaration date so no other team had a chance to even talk to him.

The rules were different when the Suns signed Tom. In fact, I think they changed the rules because of JC.

He showed up in person at the stroke of midnight at the beginning of free agency, offered a very generous contract, and said "if I leave the room without it signed, its off the table."

There was no declaration date. Free agency started and players could declare immediately if they wanted.

Needless to say, JC came home with a deal done.
 

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The rules were different when the Suns signed Tom. In fact, I think they changed the rules because of JC.

He showed up in person at the stroke of midnight at the beginning of free agency, offered a very generous contract, and said "if I leave the room without it signed, its off the table."

There was no declaration date. Free agency started and players could declare immediately if they wanted.

Needless to say, JC came home with a deal done.

They've changed the rules because of JC on more than one occasion.

But I don't think they've ever felt threatened by BC. :rolleyes:
 
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