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I would recommend you go look up the definition of a face mask these days. You need to yank or pull it. The "inadvertant facemask" went away.

Don't ruin a great game with needless whining.
 

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i'm listening to NAS right now, and i hope you're name aint after THE nasty NAS because whinin like a school girl aint his thing
 

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FRAME THIS...HERE IS YOUR PHOTO OF THE WEEK

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cant call a facemask after a fumble anyway

Because the facemask occurred before possession changed it would go under either illegal use of hands to the face, facemask penalty, or roughing the passer (Or all three) all resulting in a Packers first down because possession handn't changed yet. If the mask was grabbed after change of possesion (which it didn't) then it should have pushed the Cards back 15 yards from where the ball changed possession.
 

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Because the facemask occurred before possession changed it would go under either illegal use of hands to the face, facemask penalty, or roughing the passer (Or all three) all resulting in a Packers first down because possession handn't changed yet. If the mask was grabbed after change of possesion (which it didn't) then it should have pushed the Cards back 15 yards from where the ball changed possession.

When have the officials flagged anything dirty when there is a loose ball? Lets not forget Rodgers kicked the ball which would've been offsetting penalties.
 

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Here is the photo of the week dork

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I would recommend you go look up the definition of a face mask these days. You need to yank or pull it. The "inadvertant facemask" went away.

Don't ruin a great game with needless whining.

Ditto.

I seem to remember a WIDE OPEN Jennings two plays before.

Complete that pass and you wouldn't be in here whining.

You think a bunch of Cardinals fans care about your plight and your complaints.

Our team has been getting screwed for years. We have never been media darlings who get the (big fan base = $$$$) calls.

Actually our team has been on the arse end of things for so long they have learned to overcome bad calls.

So, tell your story walking. Cause nobody cares, a win is a win.
 

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Go to sportsillustrated.cnn to see it.

and if you read the article by Peter King, you would know why it wasn't called.

The game is over, the Packers lost. If I'm a Packer fan, I'm going after my defense and not the officials as they had a bigger part in the outcome of the game.

Good teams don't rely on the officials. They win in spite of them
 

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Because the facemask occurred before possession changed it would go under either illegal use of hands to the face, facemask penalty, or roughing the passer (Or all three) all resulting in a Packers first down because possession handn't changed yet. If the mask was grabbed after change of possesion (which it didn't) then it should have pushed the Cards back 15 yards from where the ball changed possession.




You know what I will give you this and only this. Her is a box of tissue and a jar of Cheese Wiz.

It happened to us last year in the SB and we had to suck it up for a year.

Your Turn!
 

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I like this photo from SI:

1. Regarding the non-facemask call on the last play of Arizona-Green Bay: I've watched the TiVoed combination of replays six times now. Arizona's Michael Adams blitzes, dislodges the ball from Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers, rakes his hands over the facemask of Rodgers, then appears to grab the facemask, and the ball is inadvertently kicked by Rodgers.

The ball flies briefly into the air and is grabbed by Arizona linebacker Karlos Dansby, who secures it and runs into the end zone for the winning touchdown. Adams keeps his hands on the mask as he plows into Rodgers and brings him to the ground. Adams didn't tackle him by the mask, but his hand did stay secured on the mask as Rodgers fell to the ground. (I say it that way because from the mountain of e-mails and Tweets last night, most of you think he got yanked to the ground by the facemask. It didn't appear that way to me.)

For a 15-yard facemask penalty to be called, there has to be evidence not just of a hand on the mask, but of twisting and pulling of the facemask. And there is a slight pulling of it, but not in a flagrant way. To me, it's a close call. But what complicates matters is this: The referee, Scott Green, is the official on the crew with the responsibility of watching plays involving the quarterback. Once the ball has been dislodged, Green has to watch the ball, not the contact on the quarterback. He has to see if the ball hits the ground and judge if it's a forward pass or a fumble, then he has to follow the live ball until the end of the play. So Green could not -- at least, he should not -- have seen the contact on the mask of Rodgers.

Of course, the reason this is a big concern is if a facemask had been called, Green Bay would have had a first down at its 32 in a game where defense was optional. I don't see how the call could have been made any differently with the current rules and officiating assignments the way they are.
 

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