Gallardo for Skaggs rumored

[Diamondback Jay]

Other pieces would be in the proposed deal, but currently the Snakes are talking to Milwaukee with these two as the primary pieces. Thoughts?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

It is also speculated that one of Milwaukee's relief pitchers (John Axford, Jim Henderson, Francisco Rodriguez) could be included in the deal.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

 

[Gaddabout]

They need a corner outfielder or third baseman with some pop to hit either in front or in back of Goldy. Another shaky starter vet? Meh.

 

[sundevil04]

They need a corner outfielder or third baseman with some pop to hit either in front or in back of Goldy. Another shaky starter vet? Meh.

Amen.

I'm 100% against giving up ANOTHER young premier pitching prospect for a soso not quite #1 pitcher

 

[82CardsGrad]

I mentioned this a few days ago in another thread....
I'm not in favor of giving up a young, promising stud like Skaggs for a slightly better than average, #2 at the very best pitcher like Gallardo. Gallardo would also become the highest paid player on the team and I just don't believe he's worth that status... Although, sadly he would also become our #1... Corbin can fill that role next year.
The Brewers really want Bradley, so it good to see that the Dbacks are holding tight there at least.
The reality is that in order to get anything of any consequence, we will have to part ways with someone of equal consequence. Otherwise, we do nothing, or simply rearrange the chairs on the deck of the titanic by making inconsequential deals.
I guess the team will have to decide what the ultimate goal is for this year. Do they believe they can win the division as is? Will making a big time deal like Gallardo for Skaggs secure the division?
Personally, I would prefer just calling up Skaggs and not going after Gallardo... And try to see if an outfielder with some pop becomes available.

 

[ProdigalSun]

This would be a terrible trade...which means it will probably happen. We should be going after a power bat and just call up skaggs or david holmberg who has been lights out recently

 

[UncleChris]

Amen.

I'm 100% against giving up ANOTHER young premier pitching prospect for a soso not quite #1 pitcher

Ohhhhhh...... we don't do that, do we???


Can you say "Max Scherzer?

 

[bankybruce]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/dbacks-brewers-talking-gallardo-skaggs.html

While nothing is imminent, the Diamondbacks and Brewers have been talking about possible trades involving right-hander Yovani Gallardo and one of the Arizona names that's surfaced in discussions is top pitching prospect Tyler Skaggs, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com.

The two teams appear to be good partners as the Brewers have another veteran starter in Kyle Lohse and Arizona has plenty of solid young pitching, including Skaggs and Randall Delgado. However, it doesn't appear anything is close at this point and one person familiar with the talks said, "There's no traction at this point.''

Even though a deal isn't going down today or tomorrow, Heyman says that it's a situation worth keeping an eye on. Gallardo fits the bill for the Diamondbacks as they are targeting younger, high-upside, controlled starters.

I also saw on twitter yesterday that the Brewers are the only ones talking names in our system and we have yet to get serious about any discussions. Seeing Randall Delgado name pop up go me thinking, if we can trade him and another lower tier prospect, then we traded Upton and that lower tier pitching prospect for Gallardo and Prado. Lets just hope Delgado has a couple more good outings like last night.

 

[overseascardfan]

I guess Gallardo is better than either Nolasco or Samardzija whom SI rumored ARZ to be targeting.

I feel as many here on this board do, Skaggs and Bradley should be off limits. MIL can have any 2 or 3 other prospects for Gallardo. This has me re-living the Scherzer for Kennedy & Parker for Cahill deals where ARZ is willing to give up a young stud pitcher for guys who aren't going to get ARZ to the next level. I would rather just stick to what we have and get another bat or two but I feel that every team is going to ask ARZ for either Bradley or Skaggs in any deal.

I look at the Upton deal and it makes me sick that we didn't get any of ATL's top prospects for him yet MIL is asking for our top prospect for a guy who is in a decline. Don't do it Towers, please!

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

No no no a million times no. Towers needs to be fired if anything remotely like this happens.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I actually liked Gallardo prior to this year.

 

[Mulli]

Gaillardo's velocity is way down this year. Blech.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Dbacks just announced Skaggs called up and will start tomorrow vs Rockies... Any chance this is an effort to show him off in hopes he looks more attractive? Hope not!

 

[Brian]

Something to consider: Pitching wins championships. I mentioned this in another thread, look at the Pirates. They can't hit their way out of a wet paper bag and they are in first place.

Why? Because they have pitchers they throw at you all day long.

We have Corbin and what?

I wouldn't be opposed to obtaining Gallardo for the right players. No on Skaggs and no on Bradley and no on Delgado. Outside of that, have at it.

Gallardo is a good number 2 and is only 27.

 

[sundevil04]

No no no a million times no. Towers needs to be fired if anything remotely like this happens.

I've been a supporter of Towers to this point, but if he does this and continues to dismantle what was our biggest asset, a WEALTH, of young pitching talent for the Kennedy's, Cahills and now Gallardos of the world he needs to go.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Have Patrick Corbin and now possibly Delgado, who's looking very good tought us nothing? Something to consider that isn't talked about enough is the small contracts of these young guys that were trading in favor of fat veteran contracts. For example, Skaggs is making 414k (yes that's less than a half million). And Gallardos is making 6 mil a year.

 

[sundevil04]

Something to consider: Pitching wins championships. I mentioned this in another thread, look at the Pirates. They can't hit their way out of a wet paper bag and they are in first place.

Why? Because they have pitchers they throw at you all day long.

We have Corbin and what?

I wouldn't be opposed to obtaining Gallardo for the right players. No on Skaggs and no on Bradley and no on Delgado. Outside of that, have at it.

Gallardo is a good number 2 and is only 27.

If we can nab Gallardo without giving up Bradley, Skaggs or Delgado GREAT. But I REALLY think that's unlikely to say the least

 

[overseascardfan]

If we can nab Gallardo without giving up Bradley, Skaggs or Delgado GREAT. But I REALLY think that's unlikely to say the least

+1, I bet that is all MIL is asking for (Bradley and/or Skaggs). Clubs asking prices for guys like Garza, Nolasco, Gallardo & Lee are astronomical right now. I think ARZ should put Kennedy and Cahill on the market and try and get some young prospects for them as I don't think they help ARZ long term. Go with a rotation of Corbin, Skaggs, Miley, Delgado and bring up Bradley and see where it takes them.

 

[Brian]

If we can nab Gallardo without giving up Bradley, Skaggs or Delgado GREAT. But I REALLY think that's unlikely to say the least

Yep, the only way I see something getting done is a 3 team trade and the D-backs giving up position players like Owings, Campana etc.

 

[sundevil04]

+1, I bet that is all MIL is asking for (Bradley and/or Skaggs). Clubs asking prices for guys like Garza, Nolasco, Gallardo & Lee are astronomical right now. I think ARZ should put Kennedy and Cahill on the market and try and get some young prospects for them as I don't think they help ARZ long term. Go with a rotation of Corbin, Skaggs, Miley, Delgado and bring up Bradley and see where it takes them.

I LOVE this idea. It's a sellers market and I don't think that selling Cahill and/or Kennedy hurt out chances of winning the division much ESPECIALLY I we can get a power corner OF bat back in return. Also if we can upload the money form those two we can throw more at Aaron Hill this offseason.

It's nice to have a shot at winning the division although I think we have just as good a shot without Cahill and Kennedy, BUT this is a just over .500 team any way you look at it. We have a lot of good young talent to build a solid team that can contend year in and year out if we build around that hound talent with the future in mind.

 

[bankybruce]

The D-backs are actively working to improve their rotation and bullpen prior to the trade deadline, but according to a baseball source they “have no interest” in moving left-hander Tyler Skaggs.

After a slow start to the season, Skaggs has been outstanding for Triple-A Reno and is likely to be called up to start Friday in place of the injured Trevor Cahill

http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2013/07/04/d-backs-no-interest-in-moving-skaggs/

Can we change the title? Skaggs is not part of any potential deal.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Wouldn't want to give up on Kennedy just yet. Totally done with Cahill and McCarthy though...
And I gotta believe either Owings or Didi will be part of the trade talks as well...
Would love to see a Cahill, Owings(Didi) and McCarthy package net us a proven #1... Doubt it will happen though...

 

[overseascardfan]

http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2013/07/04/d-backs-no-interest-in-moving-skaggs/

Can we change the title? Skaggs is not part of any potential deal.

Yes, but now I worry that MIL is strictly focusing on Bradley. If Bradley is also off the table then okay.

 

[overseascardfan]

Wouldn't want to give up on Kennedy just yet. Totally done with Cahill and McCarthy though...
And I gotta believe either Owings or Didi will be part of the trade talks as well...
Would love to see a Cahill, Owings(Didi) and McCarthy package net us a proven #1... Doubt it will happen though...

The thing is I feel his value will go down as teams will realize he was a one year wonder and is nothing more than a back of the rotation SP. Plus I believe he is a FA after next year so the clock is ticking.

 

[82CardsGrad]

The thing is I feel his value will go down as teams will realize he was a one year wonder and is nothing more than a back of the rotation SP. Plus I believe he is a FA after next year so the clock is ticking.

Kennedy is not a back of the rotation guy. He's a very solid #2. Not many 3's, 4's or 5's have ever put up a 20 win season.
Anyway, we need a legit #1. We also need an outfielder with legit pop. Just not sure how we'll make that happen...