Game #57-Arizona Diamondbacks @ Colorado Rockies. 5/30/19

[BC867]

Extra innings. We'll need a bunch of runs.

Yoshi warming up in the bullpen.

 

[Dback Jon]

Extra Innings!

 

[Dback Jon]

Yoshi in, two out, two on.

 

[BC867]

Ho hum! Yoshi pitches the 10th and Colorado with a walk-off.

 

[Dback Jon]

FUDGE

 

[Dback Jon]

Damn it.


FIRE BUTCHER

 

[BC867]

How about if Archie quits and Yoshi retires and they open a lemonade stand outside Chase Field.

They can call it Our Relief Is A Lemon.

 

[AZCB34]

Damn it.


FIRE BUTCHER

Fire Hirano?

 

[Azjose86]

These all fall on Lovullo. Be is slow to react and is too loyal to players not performing. He should be demanding that Archie gets sent down to Reno. He doesn't allow players to get in any type of groove. They can hit great in a few games and he sits them. He needs to use his hot guys and play them. I'm getting pretty tired of him and would be OK if they dropped him tomorrow.

 

[Dback Jon]

These all fall on Lovullo. Be is slow to react and is too loyal to players not performing. He should be demanding that Archie gets sent down to Reno. He doesn't allow players to get in any type of groove. They can hit great in a few games and he sits them. He needs to use his hot guys and play them. I'm getting pretty tired of him and would be OK if they dropped him tomorrow.

Spot on - and Welcome!

 

[Broseph]

Bullpen is abysmal, offense is too inconsistent. Rockies are not that good and you get 4 game swept, yikes.

 

[thirty-two]

Oh my god I just saw the score. What a waste of a come back. 4 game sweep

 

[BC867]

These all fall on Lovullo. Be is slow to react and is too loyal to players not performing. He should be demanding that Archie gets sent down to Reno. He doesn't allow players to get in any type of groove. They can hit great in a few games and he sits them. He needs to use his hot guys and play them. I'm getting pretty tired of him and would be OK if they dropped him tomorrow.

Torey seems to be more obsessed with WHO IS NOT in the lineup that day than WHO IS.

In following Major League baseball since I was 11 -- a long, long time ago -- I have never seen a Manager
use negative tactics with his whole team for positive results .

How could he even think of promising Walker how many at-bats he will get for the rest of the season,
to the detriment of players better than he?

And he rewards pitchers who are failing -- Goldley, Archie, Yoshi. Absolutely inflexible! The absence of
motivation.

Is he challenging his Pitching Coach to do a better job or step aside?

Perhaps it is just as well that it is catching up with him now. It might motivate the D-backs powers that
be to sit him down and have a serious conversation. If not, shame on them! Right now, results talk!

 

[1Sun]

Torey seems to be more obsessed with WHO IS NOT in the lineup that day than WHO IS.

In following Major League baseball since I was 11 -- a long, long time ago -- I have never seen a Manager
use negative tactics with his whole team for positive results .

How could he even think of promising Walker how many at-bats he will get for the rest of the season,
to the detriment of players better than he?

And he rewards pitchers who are failing -- Goldley, Archie, Yoshi. Absolutely inflexible! The absence of
motivation.

Is he challenging his Pitching Coach to do a better job or step aside?

Perhaps it is just as well that it is catching up with him now. It might motivate the D-backs powers that
be to sit him down and have a serious conversation. If not, shame on them! Right now, results talk!

Are you finally in my camp regarding Torey?

 

[BC867]

Are you finally in my camp regarding Torey?

Check back to post #4 in this thread when I said, "You called it correctly, again, 1Sun."

To elaborate my last post when I said that Torey seems to be more obsessed with WHO IS NOT in the
lineup that day than WHO IS . . .

Torey's approach is deciding his lineups a week in advance in terms of who is he going to "rest", then,
in setting the lineup, checks who is left and where they will bat in the order. That is an extremely
passive approach in the competitive world of pro ball. It is not pro-active.

If he had a strict platoon of two lineups/batting orders throughout the season (lefty/righty), fine.
A regular platoon is not haphazard. Torey's mandatory (or is that 'mandatorey?) approach is.

And this business of making it public that Walker will be the starting 1B for the rest of the season.
No matter what he does. Where does that leave Kevin Crone? Starting one or two games a week
when it is Walker's mandatory "rest" day? For that they might as well send him back down and
help the Aces.

They are both rookies in their mid- to upper-20's. Hope for gain is one thing. But guaranteeing
one of the two (who has, disappointingly under-performed) that the job will be his is not in the
best interests of the team. Competition is.

When Leo Durocher put the rookie Willie Mays in the lineup in 1951 and told him the CF job is
his, one else was competing with him. That is not the case with Walker and Cron. And neither
one is Willie Mays.

As I've posted before, Torey is using lazy management. Make decisions in advance while
sitting in his office and not having to bother analyzing what's best as the game approaches.

Who would have though? Buck Showalter was obsessive about things like how long their
pants must be. Torey Lovullo is obsessive about days off rather than, "We've lost three
in a row to the Rockies. What is my best lineup to win Game 4?" Nope, we lost the 4th!

Mandatorey rest days were more important. As Dyson sat once again. 'OK, Dyson is getting
another rest day today. Who wants to play CF? Locastro? No, you played it yesterday. Marte? OK.

Although rest days are prevalent throughout MLB, I've never seen it to the extreme of being
more important than winning.

Yes, 1Sun, when I said that Torey is an A$$hole, I'm in your camp. Just as I was, but from
the beginning, with Igor and the Suns.

It is interesting. Igor was a passive communicator. Torey is a passive planner.

 

[Azjose86]

Torey already peaked and it's all down from here. His passive approach has rubbed into the his team and everyone has grown complacent. It doesn't matter if you suck, you still get playing time because Torey likes you. What irritates the heck for me is his kill for momentum. He is obsessed with resting players and moving guys around.

 

[BC867]

Torey already peaked and it's all down from here. His passive approach has rubbed into the his team and everyone has grown complacent. It doesn't matter if you suck, you still get playing time because Torey likes you. What irritates the heck for me is his kill for momentum. He is obsessed with resting players and moving guys around.

In management, it is the ol' huff-and-puff approach.

'Look how hard I'm working with all these different lineups.'
'Look how many chances I'm giving Archie and Yoshi and Godley.'

Style, not substance. And even the style is fluff.

I can't blame the Front Office for hiring him. Who would have thought?

But someone above him needs to sit down and tell him that he is out
of control. And remind him that the team is on a downward spiral.
For a reason. And he is a large part of the reason.

And they need to give Mike Butcher his walking papers. If, for no
other reason than the inconsistency of Robbie Ray. And there are
other reasons, such as the pattern of giving up 1st inning runs,
which puts pressure on the hitters and relievers.

 

[Azjose86]

Torey benching guys when they are about to get in hot is killing this team. That's why bat's will go cold for periods of time under him. We saw it happen last year smd it's happening again this year. Let players play, give them a rest day when they need it. Not because it's scheduled.