Game 6 Impressions: Seahawks 22 Cardinals 10

[Mitch]

I don't doubt it, I saw 7 a few times and you often can't see all 11 players.

What was annoying is I don't think they did that just because they wanted to, they did it because we were in 4 WR packages so much. We should have just run into it.

That's the ticket, Russ! Spot on. Bust that sh-- up!

 

[Duckjake]

I don't doubt it, I saw 7 a few times and you often can't see all 11 players.

What was annoying is I don't think they did that just because they wanted to, they did it because we were in 4 WR packages so much. We should have just run into it.

You sure saw other teams run into our weak dime package where the front line was Haggans, Dockett, Campbell and Porter with 6 DBs. Usually at around 13 yards a clip.

 

[slanidrac16]

I don't get this. We called twice as many passes as we called runs in the first four drives. Is it Whis's fault that Hall couldn't complete any passes? You get a QB into a rhythm by calling passes and letting him complete them.

The problem is that we're passing too much. If you want to protect/hide the quarterback (which should be our goal right now), then you run more than you pass and trust your veteran defense to protect field position or keep us in the game. But instead we're calling plays like Max Hall was already Drew Brees or Kurt Warner. That's not the way to be successful.

I agree with you 100%. We were passing too much. That being said the pass plays called should have been a more conservative, safety valve type passes.

The Seahawks were patient. They ended up controlling the ball for 37 minutes. The way the defense was playing we should have done the same. We'll never know how much different the game would have been without the KO and punt muffs, not to mention Hightowers fumble.

It is amazing how we have gone from one of the best offense's in the league to one of the worse.

 

[CardLogic]

And to help me do that, I looked way back into the past...to a game that was played on Monday October 31, 1966. I was 11 years old. It was a kid's dream day and night: Halloween, trick or treating in my Cardinals' larry Wilson #8 uniform, reaping pillowcases full of candy...

And then with candy strewn all over the den carpet, and our new color TV aglow, it was time for Monday Night Football, Chicago Bears at the St. Louis Cardinals! Busch Stadium. Full Moon. The Cardinals' moon-white helmets. The red Cardinals flashing and streaking in the lights. The hallowed arches up near the light stanchions. The crowd of red.

The 5-1-1 Cardinals soon to be 6-1-1 after two Johnny Roland TD plunges, a Jim Bakken field goal and a game winning pick six by my idol Larry Wilson...whose number 8 I was donning that night all over the neighborhood. Howard Cosell, Dandy Don. An 80 yard TD by Gale Sayers to keep things interesting right to the end. But when Dandy Don sang, "Turn out the lights the party's over," the Cardinals were celebrating!

Mitch, you are a prolific poster and I appreciate the effort that you put into your wordsmithery. I really do.

But while waxing ebullient about the Cardinals, you need to keep it accurate. The first ever Monday Night Football game occurred on September 21, 1970. But I will give you credit for October, 31 1966 being a Monday!

 

[Mitch]

Mitch, you are a prolific poster and I appreciate the effort that you put into your wordsmithery. I really do.

But while waxing ebullient about the Cardinals, you need to keep it accurate. The first ever Monday Night Football game occurred on September 21, 1970. But I will give you credit for October, 31 1966 being a Monday!

Actually, Card Logic, we both are right.

You are right that it wasn't Monday Night Football as we know it...

But I am right in that it was the first nationally televised Monday night "Game of the Week."

I will never forget the rush I felt watching that game while noshing on Hershey bars and Milky Ways!

And the Cardinals won!

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Mitch, you are catching on.

Whiz isn't Patton. (Who argued with the guy in my avatar this week.)

He's Omar Bradley. (Though Bradley would never have given them the Bye week off. I still can't understand that.)

Read some Ernie Pyle books. They might help.

 

[Early]

Mitch, that last post was great, nice read! I wish i could have watched that monday game as well and followed the Cardinals and football in general for that long...

For your first post, it was premature with plenty of emotions and understandably so after a game like that.

Max Hall was physically not ready for this game, small hands, rain, noise. Whole offense playing horribly, the O-Line, even on good few great throws to start the rythm our recievers not coming down with the football.This is not something he is made for. Mentally i think i couldn't observe any major signs. There was the throw that almost got intercepted, it was the third or fourth read and he threw it without knowing for sure what was happening that area.

I agree with Fitz not having the best attitude at times. That's where Boldin is much better player than him. Short passes for first downs that simlply get the QB and recievers into the rythm. Fitz is not as good at that. He is great when you place the ball in his catching radius on medium to long throws and when he gets many catches his attitude is fine. But he does not show that all over the field and he gets frustrated and angry way to fast and he demands the ball too much at this time. Now it's all about chemistry and not about his stats. As much as i love him, he needs to calm down and show the support for the offense and not frustration.

Once we have Breaston, Fitz, Doucet and Patrick and Timmy on the field at the same time, and once Hall gets more time to build the chemistry, the offense will explode again IMO.

 

[CardLogic]

Actually, Card Logic, we both are right.

You are right that it wasn't Monday Night Football as we know it...

But I am right in that it was the first nationally televised Monday night "Game of the Week."

I will never forget the rush I felt watching that game while noshing on Hershey bars and Milky Ways!

And the Cardinals won!

Nice Mitch! But you still mixed up your games a little. Don Meredith was still quarterbacking the Dallas Cowboys in 1966! He and Cosell wouldn't have been announcing the game your talking about.

That came four years later. The "turn out the lights" game occurred between the St. Louis Cardinals and the Dallas Cowboys on Nov. 16th 1970, MFN's inaugural season, which the Cardinals won 38-0. And Dandy Don damn near cried on air...

Here's a little gem I found; this page details all of the NFL games played on Monday prior to ABC's Monday Night Football.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Monday_night_National_Football_League_games_prior_to_1970

Listed below are all professional American football regular season games played on Monday before the start of ABC's weekly Monday Night Football series.
These includes games televised by CBS and NBC on an experimental basis. These games happened in the late 1960s. The pre-1960s games were on Mondays either as special promotions or due to schedule conflicts. The primary reason that Monday games were much more rare before the 1960s was mainly due to the fact that artificial lighting was not yet widespread or good enough to provide an acceptable view of the field for a night game (hence, for the first few years of night games, a specially painted white football was used), thus requiring that all games be played during the day, when most potential spectators were at work.
Contents:
1. 1920s
2. 1930s
3. 1940s
4. 1950s
5. 1960s

10/31/66: St. Louis Cardinals 24 Chicago Bears 17

I love the internet.

 

[Mitch]

Mitch, that last post was great, nice read! I wish i could have watched that monday game as well and followed the Cardinals and football in general for that long...

For your first post, it was premature with plenty of emotions and understandably so after a game like that.

Max Hall was physically not ready for this game, small hands, rain, noise. Whole offense playing horribly, the O-Line, even on good few great throws to start the rythm our recievers not coming down with the football.This is not something he is made for. Mentally i think i couldn't observe any major signs. There was the throw that almost got intercepted, it was the third or fourth read and he threw it without knowing for sure what was happening that area.

I agree with Fitz not having the best attitude at times. That's where Boldin is much better player than him. Short passes for first downs that simlply get the QB and recievers into the rythm. Fitz is not as good at that. He is great when you place the ball in his catching radius on medium to long throws and when he gets many catches his attitude is fine. But he does not show that all over the field and he gets frustrated and angry way to fast and he demands the ball too much at this time. Now it's all about chemistry and not about his stats. As much as i love him, he needs to calm down and show the support for the offense and not frustration.

Once we have Breaston, Fitz, Doucet and Patrick and Timmy on the field at the same time, and once Hall gets more time to build the chemistry, the offense will explode again IMO.

Early: the one game where Fitz was fine happened to be with Max Hall at QB. Hall made it a point to get Fitz the ball and the execution of those passes, especially the sideline fade pass on 3rd and medium was near perfect.

It looks like Fitz and DA have very little chemistry, if any at all.

As I said on another post, I do not think the weather was max hall's biggest problem versus the Seahawks...it was having to wait two weeks to play again (too much time to think), and if anything he was over-prepared, over-anxious and over-rehearsed.

Like the strange floating fade pass he threw to no one to start the game for an easy interception. It was as if he had visioned that pass all week long and merely threw it to a spot, rather than to where his WR was on the play. The WR may have run the wrong route as well.

 

[Mitch]

Nice Mitch! But you still mixed up your games a little. Don Meredith was still quarterbacking the Dallas Cowboys in 1966! He and Cosell wouldn't have been announcing the game your talking about.

That came four years later. The "turn out the lights" game occurred between the St. Louis Cardinals and the Dallas Cowboys on Nov. 16th 1970, MFN's inaugural season, which the Cardinals won 38-0. And Dandy Don damn near cried on air...

Here's a little gem I found; this page details all of the NFL games played on Monday prior to ABC's Monday Night Football.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Monday_night_National_Football_League_games_prior_to_1970


I love the internet.

Card Logic. Good call. You are absolutely right about the announcers...I got carried away with that one. But, I will never forget the game!

 

[PJ1]

Early: the one game where Fitz was fine happened to be with Max Hall at QB. Hall made it a point to get Fitz the ball and the execution of those passes, especially the sideline fade pass on 3rd and medium was near perfect.

It looks like Fitz and DA have very little chemistry, if any at all.

As I said on another post, I do not think the weather was max hall's biggest problem versus the Seahawks...it was having to wait two weeks to play again (too much time to think), and if anything he was over-prepared, over-anxious and over-rehearsed.

Like the strange floating fade pass he threw to no one to start the game for an easy interception. It was as if he had visioned that pass all week long and merely threw it to a spot, rather than to where his WR was on the play. The WR may have run the wrong route as well.

Max Hall's biggest problem is lack of talent. All that other stuff is excuses. He is a nice story but it will be a short one(no pun intended) with a bad ending.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Mitch, you are catching on.

Whiz isn't Patton. (Who argued with the guy in my avatar this week.)

He's Omar Bradley. (Though Bradley would never have given them the Bye week off. I still can't understand that.)

Read some Ernie Pyle books. They might help.

Yes, Whiz is nothing like the self-aggrandizing Patton who belittled everyone, including Eisenhower and Bradley.

Like Omar Bradley who refused to believe that the Germans were attacking in force through the Ardennes, Whiz refuses to recognize that he has serious QB problem.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Yes, Whiz is nothing like the self-aggrandizing Patton who belittled everyone, including Eisenhower and Bradley.

Like Omar Bradley who refused to believe that the Germans were attacking in force through the Ardennes, Whiz refuses to recognize that he has serious QB problem.

Thank heavens I don't see Gen Montgomery in the picture anywhere....maybe the whiney-ass Leinart played his part

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Yes, Whiz is nothing like the self-aggrandizing Patton who belittled everyone, including Eisenhower and Bradley.

Like Omar Bradley who refused to believe that the Germans were attacking in force through the Ardennes, Whiz refuses to recognize that he has serious QB problem.

I was originally thinking of Bradley being the so-called "Soldier's General" and all of that, but you made me laugh!