Game given away

[WildBB]

Not Flippin happy about it!!!!!!!!!!

Up 24-13 in the 3rd after Fitz' TD catch. Then the wheels come off. And it's not all on L. Brown.

The INT by Palmer was a horrific read by him, he had time. D held though and only allowed a FG.

But the game was lost imo, after the Lambs tied it at 24.

1st down - dumb run call by Arians, Mendenhall off the right side, play blown up for -3.

2nd down - dump off to Dray, makes tackler miss for 10.

3rd down - pass down the left sidelines to Ellington - no idea where ball is.

This is how you try to win a game with just over 2:00 left?? After your three receivers have been pretty much dominating the Lambs secondary??? Did the Lambs stop going to Cook all of a sudden, when it mattered??? What's with this team anyhow in trying to cover TE's!!! 7/141/2

There were other things. Palmer taking a dumb sack in the 1st after we drove in FG range. Just dump it and take 3 pts!

Arenas needs to be removed from being the KR, he sucks!

In the 2nd qtr. we're at the Lambs 15. 3rd and 8. Palmer throws it underneath to someone covered but gets it blocked at LOS anway!!

The missed opportunity FG right before H/T.

Anyway with the game on the line for you, you go to Ellington??!! If it works your a genius. This???!!!

 

[JeffGollin]

I agree with you on those examples of questionable play calling, but aren't all that certain it would have changed the outcome of the game. (Maybe - but we still would have had to execute different strategies better and that's not a lock).

I think our biggest problem during that late sequence of plays was that we lacked confidence that anything we tried would absolutely work.

 

[Russ Smith]

again IMO the call to Ellington was fine, just a bad throw. For the exact reason you said, we'd been working them with the WR's all game, Ellington had just been in there a few times and had done nothing. The Rams weren't expecting it. The call worked perfectly they had 3 guys running up to take the short route away and Ellington ran right by them, if Palmer makes a good throw it's very likely a TD.

That play was the perfect surprise play call, just a bad throw. Those are the type of calls a guy like Arians saves for key points in the game, just need your QB to make the throw.

 

[Paso Fino]

again IMO the call to Ellington was fine, just a bad throw. For the exact reason you said, we'd been working them with the WR's all game, Ellington had just been in there a few times and had done nothing. The Rams weren't expecting it. The call worked perfectly they had 3 guys running up to take the short route away and Ellington ran right by them, if Palmer makes a good throw it's very likely a TD.

That play was the perfect surprise play call, just a bad throw. Those are the type of calls a guy like Arians saves for key points in the game, just need your QB to make the throw.

I'm not o sure the pass to Ellington was bad. I think he missed his assignment and didn't turn outside.

 

[D-Dogg]

Ellington looked wide open, and the throw looked rushed. He had caught a 13 yarder earlier in the game. Play was sound, but looked like the blocking fell apart...and it looked open. it was a balls call, but BA made a lot of balls calls in the game. I don't mind the call, but I hate the blocking execution.

Has BA broken down that play yet? I'll be surprised if Ellington was breaking the wrong way, because he was open and headed downfield.

 

[PJ1]

Palmer and Ellington were on the wrong page earlier in the game also. Pitch and catch with Fitz or Roberts for the two yards. I knew the game was over when we didn't convert. We are the Cardinals afterall......

 

[WildBB]

Palmer and Ellington were on the wrong page earlier in the game also. Pitch and catch with Fitz or Roberts for the two yards. I knew the game was over when we didn't convert. We are the Cardinals afterall......

Exactely, the wide outs wre having their way all game. Save the rookie play call for 1st or 2nd down. I'll happily take the TD after we get the 1st! You outsmarted yourself BA! Go to Roberts who was catching everything in sight or the franchise(.) First get the 1st! Then try the Ellington play.

 

[Covert Rain]

It might not be all Levi's fault but he shared a huge portion of the blame. Dude is NEVER going to get better.

 

[WildBB]

It might not be all Levi's fault but he shared a huge portion of the blame. Dude is NEVER going to get better.

Well he didn't play well, for sure. I've seen it before. He'll bounce back. Mendenhall was also having some good runs, so hopefully they get him some help now and then on pass pro. Wiz never did and he still had bounce back games. Their's a pretty limited number of above average LT's in the NFL. Half are about average.

We're also not the only team that has to overcome some bad line play. I wasn't impressed by Seattle's O-line at all. Wilson makes up for a lot of it's deficiency. P. Manning also got his share of heat opening game.

 

[Covert Rain]

Well he didn't play well, for sure. I've seen it before. He'll bounce back. Mendenhall was also having some good runs, so hopefully they get him some help now and then on pass pro. Wiz never did and he still had bounce back games. Their's a pretty limited number of above average LT's in the NFL. Half are about average.

We're also not the only team that has to overcome some bad line play. I wasn't impressed by Seattle's O-line at all. Wilson makes up for a lot of it's deficiency. P. Manning also got his share of heat opening game.

How much bouncing back can this team endure? Seriously, the fact that you said "he'll bounce back" suggest a pattern with the guy. It's not the bouncing back I am worried about. It's all the other times.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Valid points.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Exactely, the wide outs wre having their way all game. Save the rookie play call for 1st or 2nd down. I'll happily take the TD after we get the 1st! You outsmarted yourself BA! Go to Roberts who was catching everything in sight or the franchise(.) First get the 1st! Then try the Ellington play.

The reason BA called that play right then was because that's when the play was going to be most effective. The defense was going to be very focused on stopping short routes and the design of the play was to get them over-pursuing Ellington so that he could then turn it up-field and beat them over the top. The route worked to perfection because Ellington was 2 steps behind the defense once the ball was in the air, but obviously the throw didn't connect.

The problem I have with the play-call was that they didn't go for it on 4th down. To me calling a play that is lower percentage to try and go for the homerun is like saying we're going for it on 4th down anyways so we might as well try and get the TD on 3rd down.

 

[D-Dogg]

The problem I have with the play-call was that they didn't go for it on 4th down. To me calling a play that is lower percentage to try and go for the homerun is like saying we're going for it on 4th down anyways so we might as well try and get the TD on 3rd down.

agreed.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Another thing I love about the play-call is that it shows just how aggressive BA is. He isn't afraid to be the reason we lose the game. That's not to say that he does something this ballsy in every game in crunch time, but he made a play-call that most OCs just don't have the guts to call in that situation. The typical OC including Whiz would call a very typical play to try and just get the ball past the marker that the defense likely would be ready for anyways. Lastly if they would have connected on this play most of the people dogging the play-call would be talking how brilliantly gutsy it was instead of calling it a bonehead play-call.

 

[Cheesebeef]

since when is a wheel-route a home run? The play call was perfect, the play was wide open and Palmer just missed the throw badly...unfortunately, like he had most of the fourth quarter.

i saw nothing from Palmer that I didn't expect all off-season. Giving us plenty of false hope, putting up really nice stats, throwing a pick six (almost) and then no-showing at crunch time.

he's the very definition of false hope IMO. He'll make the games entertaining for sure this season, but by season's end, I think people are going to realize he's not the real deal holyfield we need at QB to ever truly be successful.

that being he said, Palmer is NOT the reason we lost yesterday. There's plenty of other reasons for that (Levi Brown and the non-existent pass-rush).

 

[WildBB]

The reason BA called that play right then was because that's when the play was going to be most effective. The defense was going to be very focused on stopping short routes and the design of the play was to get them over-pursuing Ellington so that he could then turn it up-field and beat them over the top. The route worked to perfection because Ellington was 2 steps behind the defense once the ball was in the air, but obviously the throw didn't connect.

The problem I have with the play-call was that they didn't go for it on 4th down. To me calling a play that is lower percentage to try and go for the homerun is like saying we're going for it on 4th down anyways so we might as well try and get the TD on 3rd down.

Good point. Why call that play at all if your not going for the W on the road? Otherwise get your 1st down even if they're playing up, go over the top with one of the receivers, not the rook. In fairness Palmer rushed the throw so there is no guarantee anything works right there. Losing the 3 yds On first was huge for that series. I really disliked that just as much as the 3rd down call. 1st down was always Warner's favorite down to pass. Especially going for a W.

 

[kerouac9]

since when is a wheel-route a home run? The play call was perfect, the play was wide open and Palmer just missed the throw badly...unfortunately, like he had most of the fourth quarter.

i saw nothing from Palmer that I didn't expect all off-season. Giving us plenty of false hope, putting up really nice stats, throwing a pick six (almost) and then no-showing at crunch time.

he's the very definition of false hope IMO. He'll make the games entertaining for sure this season, but by season's end, I think people are going to realize he's not the real deal holyfield we need at QB to ever truly be successful.

that being he said, Palmer is NOT the reason we lost yesterday. There's plenty of other reasons for that (Levi Brown and the non-existent pass-rush).

My wife's review of the game was that we fell apart in the third quarter and the offense didn't do anything. I love my wife so much. <3

 

[john h]

I agree with you on those examples of questionable play calling, but aren't all that certain it would have changed the outcome of the game. (Maybe - but we still would have had to execute different strategies better and that's not a lock).

I think our biggest problem during that late sequence of plays was that we lacked confidence that anything we tried would absolutely work.

Overall we played a good game at their home. We can always point to some bad plays after the game. I was impressed by our QB and receivers. Some of play calling puzzled me but overall this is a much better team than last year. At least for this game. Roberts was everywhere and Fitz was Fitz again.

 

[WildBB]

Overall we played a good game at their home. We can always point to some bad plays after the game. I was impressed by our QB and receivers. Some of play calling puzzled me but overall this is a much better team than last year. At least for this game. Roberts was everywhere and Fitz was Fitz again.

Except on the last series. That's the puzzling part. The Lambs didn't stop what was working for them in THEIR final drive, did they?

 

[crisper57]

Some things never change. The Cards played another 3 solid quarters of football. Unfortunately, the Rams kept playing for 4.