Geno Smith Visited By Jeffrey Laurie

[HoodieBets]

I agree with your line of thinking. My worst fear is the Cardinals go chasing after a quarterback early in the draft.

What choice do they have? you could have the best defense and the best offensive line in the league and still be a .500 team because you dont have a QB. With current data available it looks like that only happens in the first round.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

What choice do they have? you could have the best defense and the best offensive line in the league and still be a .500 team because you dont have a QB. With current data available it looks like that only happens in the first round.

It is true that you are likely to only find a good QB in the first round, but not every draft has a single good QB. This looks like it could very well be one of those drafts with no QBs worthy of a first.

 

[HoodieBets]

It is true that you are likely to only find a good QB in the first round, but not every draft has a single good QB. This looks like it could very well be one of those drafts with no QBs worthy of a first.

It's not like before where you are paying truck loads of money. If it doesn't work out draft another one. We need to start taking chances early in the draft on QBs to have any hope for the future.

 

[WildBB]

Drew Brees. 1st pick of the second round in 2001.

Russell Wilson, 3rd Rd. pick. Quickly ascending.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Russell Wilson, 3rd Rd. pick. Quickly ascending.

Kaepernick 2nd?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

It's not like before where you are paying truck loads of money. If it doesn't work out draft another one. We need to start taking chances early in the draft on QBs to have any hope for the future.

The gamble is in the fact that if it doesn't work out than you passed on someone like Warmack that could have been a pro bowl level talent at a different position. It is true that it isn't the financial gamble that it once was, but it is still a gamble.

 

[Goldfield]

The gamble is in the fact that if it doesn't work out than you passed on someone like Warmack that could have been a pro bowl level talent at a different position. It is true that it isn't the financial gamble that it once was, but it is still a gamble.

It's clear you have to do what it takes to find THAT QB. Without him you have no chance.

 

[desertdawg]

I wish we could get the best QB in the draft for once, but this year the fat guys are where it's at. I like Geno, but not at #7.

 

[kerouac9]

We need to luck into a franchise QB we are never gonna be bad enough to draft one. Even with current roster we can win 5 games.

I disagree.

 

[HoodieBets]

I disagree.

I said can not will. Did you think the colts would have the year they had last year?

 

[kerouac9]

I said can not will. Did you think the colts would have the year they had last year?

I'd have to go back and look at my pre-season power rankings (if I did them), but it wasn't outside the realm of possibility. They had a quarterback, which is the foundation of all things. They had skill position players on the outside, and the core of a good defense. They played an incredibly weak schedule.

Football Outsiders had the Colts for 6.0 wins as a projection, with the highest likelihood being between 5-7 wins. The Colts also were an incredibly lucky team in 2012. I expect them to be an 8 win team or worse, and anyone betting the over in the 8.5 wins line that is totally going to come out of Vegas is a sucker.

For me, I see the 2013 Arizona Cardinals as being less talented than the 2012 edition. We will (luckily) play the AFC South, but we'll play the most winnable games (Jacksonville and Tennessee) on the road.

I don't know. I think getting 5 wins with the terrible team that we're going to field (for all of Kolb's terribleness, he probably gives us a better chance to win an individual game that he starts than we have with Stanton or Hoyer) would be an accomplishment.

 

[Skumbag]

The gamble is in the fact that if it doesn't work out than you passed on someone like Warmack that could have been a pro bowl level talent at a different position. It is true that it isn't the financial gamble that it once was, but it is still a gamble.

And if Warmack doesn't pan out? All picks are a gamble... look at Levi

 

[HoodieBets]

And if Warmack doesn't pan out? All picks are a gamble... look at Levi

Or Wendell Bryant, or Andre Wadsworth, or Bryant Johnson or Matt Leinart, etc etc

 

[HoodieBets]

I'd have to go back and look at my pre-season power rankings (if I did them), but it wasn't outside the realm of possibility. They had a quarterback, which is the foundation of all things. They had skill position players on the outside, and the core of a good defense. They played an incredibly weak schedule.

Football Outsiders had the Colts for 6.0 wins as a projection, with the highest likelihood being between 5-7 wins. The Colts also were an incredibly lucky team in 2012. I expect them to be an 8 win team or worse, and anyone betting the over in the 8.5 wins line that is totally going to come out of Vegas is a sucker.

For me, I see the 2013 Arizona Cardinals as being less talented than the 2012 edition. We will (luckily) play the AFC South, but we'll play the most winnable games (Jacksonville and Tennessee) on the road.

I don't know. I think getting 5 wins with the terrible team that we're going to field (for all of Kolb's terribleness, he probably gives us a better chance to win an individual game that he starts than we have with Stanton or Hoyer) would be an accomplishment.

I get your point but I dont think it is out of the realm of possibility we win 5 games which would put us at 5 or later and out of bridgewater or manziel range. How many years do we wait until we get over matt leinart and take a chance on a first round QB.

 

[kerouac9]

I get your point but I dont think it is out of the realm of possibility we win 5 games which would put us at 5 or later and out of bridgewater or manziel range. How many years do we wait until we get over matt leinart and take a chance on a first round QB.

I get it. I totally get how frustrating it is not to have a clear solution at quarterback. But at the same time, I don't know if you can force a first-round QB if that's not what the guy is. If you do that, you end up going through three years of garbage like Jacksonville and Tennessee are entering in to (How Jake Locker has avoided criticism is kind of beyond my ken, but I'm not a Titans fan).

Is this like the year that a quarterback wasn't taken until the mid-teens, and that was Chad Pennington? I don't know. Quarterbacks are hard to evaluate. Now more than ever, because they're not being asked to make NFL reads or as many NFL throws.

I've given this scouting staff it's share of guff, but I can say that they have been savvy enough not to get suckered in on guys like Gabbert, Locker, and Ponder when they may have been tempting. Guys like CBus aren't entirely wrong when they say that there hasn't been much in the cupboard when the Cards have gone on the clock when it comes to quarterbacks.

I'm fine if the Cards believe that they might be getting great value with Geno Smith at #7. I'm fine if they decide that Chance Warmack or Dion Jordan or even Damontre Moore are better options. I'm gonna be disappointed if we draft Lane Johnson because he's the last tackle that carries a real first-round grade.

I think that everyone should take Jon Gruden's QB Camps with a large grain of salt, though.