Give Whisenhunt a grade so far

Give Ken Whisenhunt a grade on performance to date


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Duckjake

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Defense and special teams are horrible.

That is 2/3 of the game.

Running game and tight ends (wasn't Whiz a TE?) suck too.

I give him a "C."

Can't give him much credit for the magic of Warner, Boldin, Fitz, and Breaston.

He needs to clean house this off-season in the personnel and coaching departments.

Until Sunday the Car*s didn't have both their starting TE's available. That probably explains why the TE play was poor. Probably explains why the team was able to run the ball a little better as well.
 

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How a coach can go 3-7 outside the division and get an A or B is just...I'm beside myself actually.

You are only beside yourself because he was coaching at Pittsburgh. If Whisenhunt had been offensive coordinator for Philadelphia before taking the Car*s job he'd be your hero.
 

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B-

I think considering the context he has done well. There is still many things to work on but I am pretty happy overall.
 

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Can't give him much credit for the magic of Warner, Boldin, Fitz, and Breaston.

We had Warner, Boldin and Fitz before Whis arrived and they didn't do anything close to what they are doing now.

How can Whis not get credit for this?
 

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You are only beside yourself because he was coaching at Pittsburgh. If Whisenhunt had been offensive coordinator for Philadelphia before taking the Car*s job he'd be your hero.

LOL what a response to going 3-7 outside the west. Exactly what I am talking about. Eeryone wants to ignore the lephant in the room.

But yup if he belonged to the team I hate the most besides the cowpies Id love him. And of course Pit which I could care less about mean so much to me.
 

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LOL what a response to going 3-7 outside the west. Exactly what I am talking about. Eeryone wants to ignore the lephant in the room.

But yup if he belonged to the team I hate the most besides the cowpies Id love him. And of course Pit which I could care less about mean so much to me.

Well over the last year or so you have bashed every guy formerly associated with Pittsburgh and Lauded anyone formerly associated with the Eagles. So one has to wonder. Especially given where you live.
 

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A-, he is the best Cards coach since Coryell. When he's done,he'll be their best overall. The guy has what it takes.
 

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Well over the last year or so you have bashed every guy formerly associated with Pittsburgh and Lauded anyone formerly associated with the Eagles. So one has to wonder. Especially given where you live.

Hmm who have I bashed in Pittsburgh curious? (Other than Grimm or Whiz) Love Cowher wish he was here.

There is a reason Cowher didnt recomment Grimm or Whiz for the HC job in Pittsburgh ya know.

So who is it again?

I like the Pittsburgh organization as much as the Eagles...well run. The teams themselves? Cant stand the Eagles. Indifferent on pittsburgh.
 

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How a coach can go 3-7 outside the division and get an A or B is just...I'm beside myself actually.

Never has there ever been a truer statement made. You are a full grade away from everyone else. You want to give a coach that you and only you graded as a "D" another year? I don't know why I find that funny, but that cracks me up. I know you can't really believe the things you post on this board.
 
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There is a reason Cowher didnt recomment Grimm or Whiz for the HC job in Pittsburgh ya know.
Wouldn't that reason be that he didn't recommend anyone for the Pittsburgh job?

Was Cowher ever even asked for a recommendation or opinion?
 

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Never has there ever been a truer statement made. You are a full grade away from everyone else. You want to give a coach that you and only you graded as a "D" another year? I don't know why I find that funny, but that cracks me up. I know you can't really believe the things you post on this board.

Every coach (except Mac) should get 3 years. Don;t know how that is so hard to understand.

For just about every coach we have had since oh I dont know 1992 you would be rating the coach a B or A after a year or two and I would rate a D. Guess how many times you would have been right?
 

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Ya know you all just drive me batty seriously how many of my opinions do I have to fight tooth and nail just to get these stupid rediculous posts like Wisconsisn here to go away. I'm not trying to be "right" but just post my opinion. I get bashed over and over and then when YOU are proven wrong nothing is ever said and you all just wait to bash my next opinion.

McCown was the next end all be all QB - I didnt believe that got thrashed. (You dont even believe the stuff you post do you? type idiot remarks)

I thought mac was an awful hire - Bashed for that. How can you be so stupid as to not think Mac is a great coach I was told

After year 1 I thought Mac was truely awful - You all bought in to the 1 heartbeat and thought I lost my mind

I wasnt big on the Dennis Green hire wanted Jim Johnson - OMG Johnson over Green are you a freaking idiot swd why even bother posting your drivel

There are a lot more year after year. Jesus why not let people just post their opinions without personal attacks. Just because its me your allowed to post personal attacks but if I respond in kind (I'm sure this post is trolling) I get the shaft.

I wont name names but there are people here that bet big money A$FN on the falcons but yet they dont post. I wonder why? There are a few that think Whiz is as bad a coach as I, they dont post I wonder why?

Ya know the majority of the people here that attack the opposing opinion..your the ones that are wrong year after year. Are you so angry that you are wrong so often you feel you need to take it out on others?

If you dont think I am talking about you (the reader) I probably am not. If you think I might mean you I probably do.
 

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Ya know you all just drive me batty seriously how many of my opinions do I have to fight tooth and nail just to get these stupid rediculous posts like Wisconsisn here to go away. I'm not trying to be "right" but just post my opinion. I get bashed over and over and then when YOU are proven wrong nothing is ever said and you all just wait to bash my next opinion.

McCown was the next end all be all QB - I didnt believe that got thrashed. (You dont even believe the stuff you post do you? type idiot remarks)

I thought mac was an awful hire - Bashed for that. How can you be so stupid as to not think Mac is a great coach I was told

After year 1 I thought Mac was truely awful - You all bought in to the 1 heartbeat and thought I lost my mind

I wasnt big on the Dennis Green hire wanted Jim Johnson - OMG Johnson over Green are you a freaking idiot swd why even bother posting your drivel

There are a lot more year after year. Jesus why not let people just post their opinions without personal attacks. Just because its me your allowed to post personal attacks but if I respond in kind (I'm sure this post is trolling) I get the shaft.

I wont name names but there are people here that bet big money A$FN on the falcons but yet they dont post. I wonder why? There are a few that think Whiz is as bad a coach as I, they dont post I wonder why?

Ya know the majority of the people here that attack the opposing opinion..your the ones that are wrong year after year. Are you so angry that you are wrong so often you feel you need to take it out on others?

If you dont think I am talking about you (the reader) I probably am not. If you think I might mean you I probably do.

Its not that we think you're wrong, its just that you're so negitive.
It is revisionist history to talk about McCown and Coach Mac. It's easy to say a coach sucks, that just got hired for a franchise that has never won. Hey why not go on record to say that the next coach of the Loins will suck. You have about a 99% chance of being right. It's pretty easy. To say that Jim Johnson would have been any better or worse then DG is just your opinion. I don't see anybody beating down the door to hire him as a head coach. He had several interviews, but always a brides maid.
 

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Its not that we think you're wrong, its just that you're so negitive.
It is revisionist history to talk about McCown and Coach Mac. It's easy to say a coach sucks, that just got hired for a franchise that has never won. Hey why not go on record to say that the next coach of the Loins will suck. You have about a 99% chance of being right. It's pretty easy. To say that Jim Johnson would have been any better or worse then DG is just your opinion. I don't see anybody beating down the door to hire him as a head coach. He had several interviews, but always a brides maid.

I'm not being negative. I have certain things I see when I see a franchise turn it around much like you have certain criteria as well. My criteria hasnt been met. So when I post my thoughts I post what I SEE.

Trust me if we have a true turnaround like Sporano and Parcells gave the Dolphins you will still see my opinion but I guarentee it will be more 'positive'.

Currently I see a Coach Mac version 2 that doesnt talk as much with a much more talented team. That team is playing nowhere near its talent level whoch has been the cardinals curse.

But hey I already am starting to feel like Saturday is a win even though if I set passion aside I feel we will be lambs to the slaughter. I'd be extremely happy with just a close game at this point.
 

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A-. Leave room to keep improving but what he has done since his arrival I don't know how you can give anything but an A.

There are a lot of tough decisions this off season. I just hope we do not go backwards like in 98.

I would try everything possible to resign Q. I would have to see what Dansby wants. Would anyone give him what Pace got from the Jets? I think next year we will go with Matt just to bring a more balanced attack as Matt has some mobility.
 

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Anybody want to change their grade? :D

Looks like i have to change mine to an A+ for playoff success. :doofus:
 

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I'm not being negative. I have certain things I see when I see a franchise turn it around much like you have certain criteria as well. My criteria hasnt been met. So when I post my thoughts I post what I SEE.

Trust me if we have a true turnaround like Sporano and Parcells gave the Dolphins you will still see my opinion but I guarentee it will be more 'positive'.

Currently I see a Coach Mac version 2 that doesnt talk as much with a much more talented team. That team is playing nowhere near its talent level whoch has been the cardinals curse.

But hey I already am starting to feel like Saturday is a win even though if I set passion aside I feel we will be lambs to the slaughter. I'd be extremely happy with just a close game at this point.

And WHEN they win , will you admit your skepticism. And give The Whiz a WoW!
 

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Hopefully this is a clearer poll and clears up how fans feel.

Hey we are in the Superbowl. How could he not get anything but an "A". The superbowl is the ultimate challenge and we are there. If we do not win it I guess you could give him an A-. He could be the devil with horns and if he gets you to the superbowl what more can you ask. He is what we thought he was.
 

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Hey we are in the Superbowl. How could he not get anything but an "A". The superbowl is the ultimate challenge and we are there. If we do not win it I guess you could give him an A-. He could be the devil with horns and if he gets you to the superbowl what more can you ask. He is more than what we thought he was.

That's better. :D
 

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