Goff was a Bust Too

[bojack]

...in his rookie year. 7 games, QBR 19, only 5 TDs to 7 INT. IIRC he never won a game he started and he looked like as bad or worse as Rosen doing it. Then McVay comes in the next year and the guy is their franchise QB.

Goff has probably the most parallels to Rosen as any QB in recent history. I thought for sure Goff was a bust just for playing so bad even if it was a bad Fisher team. I don't think anyone can argue Wilks was a better org than 2016 Fisher.

Going only off 2018, I still think Rosen could be a bust, but I was watching Goff LOLing at the Rams for having a bust for a QB in 2016. Not LOLing at the Rams anymore (unfortunately).

I think the dynamics of this draft make it hard to draft another QB this year. If Rosen stinks it up again it makes it a lot easier to know the exact move to make in the next draft. Things are just a little opaque to do it in this one and know you got max value for your pick.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Rosen has more talent than Goff... at least I know he is smarter and does not need his coach on a headset to tell him where to go with the ball and Rosen has a stronger arm

 

[JosiahLee]

Just a gut opinion, but I believe Goff has peaked in McVay’s system. Can’t see him putting up the same numbers as this past season...And that Super Bowl performance, oh boy.

Regarding Rosen, I agree he has higher upside than Goff. But man, if Kyler becomes a superstar, can you ever forgive yourself if you actually pass on him?

 

[dscher]

Just a gut opinion, but I believe Goff has peaked in McVay’s system. Can’t see him putting up the same numbers as this past season...And that Super Bowl performance, oh boy.

Regarding Rosen, I agree he has higher upside than Goff. But man, if Kyler becomes a superstar, can you ever forgive yourself if you actually pass on him?

Ding! Keim would get another extreme dui in a couple years from now, if so...

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Ding! Keim would get another extreme dui in a couple years from now, if so...

Worse yet....How sick would you be, to see Rosen lead another team to a SB win or two??

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Lol Maybe Rosen should lead to a better than 45% red zone completion ratio before we talk about him in a super bowl

 

[BW52]

Lol Maybe Rosen should lead to a better than 45% red zone completion ratio before we talk about him in a super bowl

Why?NO difference than speculation and hope than Murray is transcendent and leading the Cards to the Super Bowl and being a "generational talent".

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Why?NO difference than speculation and hope than Murray is transcendent and leading the Cards to the Super Bowl and being a "generational talent".

I am not talking about Murray. I am talking about the failure we currently have at QB

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Murray is irrelevant. Rosen sucks and is our QB. That is what is relevant

 

[BW52]

I am not talking about Murray. I am talking about the failure we currently have at QB

I know who you are talking about and I think you are wrong and judging prematurely.But I am not rehashing this again because you are dug in with your Murray love and I won`t change my opinion.

 

[BW52]

Murray is irrelevant. Rosen sucks and is our QB. That is what is relevant

Yeah I believe you are fair and balanced about Rosen.NOT.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I am not "dug into my Murray love", epecially because I think the best move is to trade down and take another QB next year

I think Rosen SUCKS until he proves otherwise and the sooner we dump him the better

 

[BW52]

Murray is irrelevant. Rosen sucks and is our QB. That is what is relevant

I can say things too.MURRAY is overrated and will flop in the NFL.History says short QBs have little success in the NFL.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I can say things too.MURRAY is overrated and will flop in the NFL.History says short QBs have little success in the NFL.

At this point probably overrated and more likely to bust than be good

Murray has nothing to do with Rosen being a crapshow at QB

 

[BW52]

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I am not "dug into my Murray love", epecially because I think the best move is to trade down and take another QB next year



I think Rosen SUCKS until he proves otherwise and the sooner we dump him the better

Your opinion and good for you.MY opinion is that you are wrong.

 

[AZCB34]

Thursday and the pick can't get here fast enough

 

[dscher]

Thursday and the pick can't get here fast enough

+1000000

 

[BW52]

in 44 hours this board will be in meltdown mode either way.Half saying "WTF" how can you pass on him and the other half saying "WTF are they thinking drafting him first.

 

[BW52]

I will be pissed if we draft the short overrated homophobic tweeting Daddys boy midget QB

 

[Solar7]

@Chris_Sanders, you're a "Super Moderator," maybe lay off of the divisiveness?

You're awesome, but you're throwing the gauntlet down with Bosa's presumed racism, homophobia, and you're planting your flag. I know there's a really unpleasant tweet he liked, but I don't know if everyone is aware.

I'm all for your concerns, and I don't think @BW52 needs to drop what he just said either.

Just take a step above?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

@Chris_Sanders, you're a "Super Moderator," maybe lay off of the divisiveness?

You're awesome, but you're throwing the gauntlet down with Bosa's presumed racism, homophobia, and you're planting your flag. I know there's a really unpleasant tweet he liked, but I don't know if everyone is aware.

I'm all for your concerns, and I don't think @BW52 needs to drop what he just said either.

Just take a step above?

You are probably right. I have deleted my comments and will refrain from voicing that again.

I believe I do about 80% of the moderating on this board at this point. I will just go back to washing the glasses and cleaning up the spills.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Oh and Super Moderator is just a title. It means I can edit anything on the board.

I certainly didn't make it cause it sounds dumb

 

[NJCardFan]

Just a gut opinion, but I believe Goff has peaked in McVay’s system. Can’t see him putting up the same numbers as this past season...And that Super Bowl performance, oh boy.

Regarding Rosen, I agree he has higher upside than Goff. But man, if Kyler becomes a superstar, can you ever forgive yourself if you actually pass on him?

Not if Bosa turns out to be the next Lawrence Taylor.

 

[Vacard]

I will be pissed if we draft the short overrated homophobic tweeting Daddys boy midget QB

Then leave your fandom at home because there are 31 other teams to root for. No need to quote everyone who is pro-Murray or realize that Josh has the worst year statistically out of all rookie qb’s.

 

[BW52]

Then leave your fandom at home because there are 31 other teams to root for. No need to quote everyone who is pro-Murray or realize that Josh has the worst year statistically out of all rookie qb’s.

how about you stop

trying to tell me who to root for.I have been rooting for this team for 50 plus years and I don't need or particularly give a damn what you like.