Goldy, Lovullo Award Finalists

82CardsGrad

7 x 70
Joined
Dec 31, 2004
Posts
36,507
Reaction score
8,699
Location
Scottsdale
Stanton deserves it.

Stanton had a better year... but not sure how he can be "valuable" on a team that didn't even make it to the post season... I think that's 3 years in a row now that the NL MVP has gone to a player whose team didn't make the playoffs. MLB is gonna have to re-think the name of this award!
 

BC867

Long time Phoenician!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
17,827
Reaction score
1,709
Location
NE Phoenix
Stanton had a better year... but not sure how he can be "valuable" on a team that didn't even make it to the post season... I think that's 3 years in a row now that the NL MVP has gone to a player whose team didn't make the playoffs. MLB is gonna have to re-think the name of this award!
I don't think MLB is going to re-name the award. Or confine it to one player in the league who made his team significantly better.

That is the conundrum with 'valuable'. If a player takes his team from a predicted last place to just short of the wild card, that's pretty valuable. Or should it be only if a team reaches the post-season, now that they have and doubled wild card involvement, which makes it easier? Or only a team that leads their division? Or the player who puts the most people in the seats?

More than any other award, this is the one with the widest range of opinions and possibilities.
 

82CardsGrad

7 x 70
Joined
Dec 31, 2004
Posts
36,507
Reaction score
8,699
Location
Scottsdale
I don't think MLB is going to re-name the award. Or confine it to one player in the league who made his team better.

That is the conundrum with 'valuable'. If a player takes his team from a predicted last place to just short of the wild card, that's pretty valuable. Or should it be only if a team reaches the post-season, now that they have and doubled wild card involvement, which makes it easier? Or only a team that leads their division? Of the player who puts the most people in the seats?

More than any other award, this is the one with the widest range of opinions and possibilities.

I dunno... How many games did Stanton play in that actually mattered? How many times was he asked to sacrifice/move a runner over to third base? I just think someone like Stanton (who had a great season for sure) has the ability to play for himself when his team isn't contending, while guys like Goldy are forced to be (though in Goldy's case it wouldn't matter either way) less selfish and play more team ball...
 
OP
OP
Dback Jon

Dback Jon

Doing it My Way
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
84,038
Reaction score
44,279
Location
South Scottsdale
He didn't get the award in 2013 (lost to a freaking cheatin pirate) because the Dbacks sucked, even though his numbers blew McCutcheons away.


this is what gets me - one year, standard is playoffs. Next year, doesn't matter
 

GatorAZ

feed hopkins
Joined
Oct 17, 2011
Posts
26,021
Reaction score
19,200
Location
The Giant Toaster
Stanton had a better year... but not sure how he can be "valuable" on a team that didn't even make it to the post season... I think that's 3 years in a row now that the NL MVP has gone to a player whose team didn't make the playoffs. MLB is gonna have to re-think the name of this award!

Meh it's never bothered me. I'm not punishing Stanton for his team's pathetic payroll and crappy teammates.
 
Top