Good bye St. Louie

[Azlen]

Will you be saying the same thing in 5-10 years when the Cardinals ask Phoenix for a new stadium since UOP will be old compared to all the other stadiums being built now. And they will ask for tax money to build it.

UofP Stadium is the 5th newest stadium in the league right now so 5-10 is probably too soon for that to occur. 15-20 is probably more likely.

 

[NJCardFan]

You said they should put some STL players in the ROH. I was merely pointing out there were already some in there. "Several" is more than zero or a couple.

As to why there aren't more in there, ask papa B, maybe he can tell you why. What do the three current STL players have in common? They are all in the HOF. My guess, and only a guess, is that the STL years are a time the franchise doesn't want to remember all that much.

Where is Jackie Smith then? My guess is his one year in Dallas but he did sabotage a Super Bowl for them and he should be on just for that. Seriously, this is why I said it would be nice for them to mend some fences and bring these great players in.

 

[NJCardFan]

Because they are all at Clipper games.

Are they? Wouldn't surprise me. I don't pay attention to the NBA because IMO it's the one league that's as close to the WWE when it comes to outcomes than any other league not to mention the product on the court sucks.

 

[Dback Jon]

UofP Stadium is the 5th newest stadium in the league right now so 5-10 is probably too soon for that to occur. 15-20 is probably more likely.

Atlanta, Minn and new LA will bump UofP down a couple notches.



Any other new ones in the works?

 

[Rivercard]

LA fans are notoriously apathetic toward their sports teams, especially if they're winning. Look at the Lakers during their heyday. Anyone who was anyone went to their games but now, not so much. Sure there are hardcore fans but they're outnumbered by those who go just to be seen.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

According to ESPN, despite having a horrific team yet again the Lakers are 11th in the NBA with an average home attendance of 18,999 which is sell out capacity for the Lakers at Staples. During the Lakers last championship year they averaged the same sell out attendance of 18,999.

The Suns are 19th in home attendance (17,269) and the Nets 28th (14,810).

 

[TruColor]

Atlanta, Minn and new LA will bump UofP down a couple notches.



Any other new ones in the works?

Just Miami's massive renovation going on right now. They got part of it completed before this past season; have more going on this offseason.

Buffalo's trying to get a new downtown stadium done as well.

I still predict in a couple of years we'll see the Bears start to whine about the fact they spent a bazillion dollars on a "renovation" of Soldier Field (basically, built a brand new stadium built inside of the existing Roman columns), and now have the smallest (in terms of capacity) stadium in the league. No room for expansion. No roof. No hope to ever have a Super Bowl there, or even a Big Ten Championship game. Just a stupid project.

 

[Dback Jon]

Just Miami's massive renovation going on right now. They got part of it completed before this past season; have more going on this offseason.

Buffalo's trying to get a new downtown stadium done as well.

I still predict in a couple of years we'll see the Bears start to whine about the fact they spent a bazillion dollars on a "renovation" of Soldier Field (basically, built a brand new stadium built inside of the existing Roman columns), and now have the smallest (in terms of capacity) stadium in the league. No room for expansion. No roof. No hope to ever have a Super Bowl there, or even a Big Ten Championship game. Just a stupid project.

Redskins are trolling around as well for a new Stadium.

 

[Rivercard]

The Rams might have a worse "home field" advantage in LA than the Cards here.

There is a lot of buzz for the Rams here right now, so I think they will do OK rekindling a fan base rather quickly, especially if they are competitive. The Chargers on the other hand....... that will be a yearly 9th home game for the Raiders.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Redskins are trolling around as well for a new Stadium.

I like how they won their division and hosted a playoff game and suddenly the cries for them to change their name have gone silent.

 

[BillsCarnage]

There is a lot of buzz for the Rams here right now, so I think they will do OK rekindling a fan base rather quickly, especially if they are competitive.

Sure, now there is, but check back when GB, Pitt, Dallas, etc come to town.

Back to the Kroenke site, the NFL network is setting up shop on the land too. In the MMQB article it sounds like everything NFL network will be there.

 

[Dback Jon]

Sure, now there is, but check back when GB, Pitt, Dallas, etc come to town.

Back to the Kroenke site, the NFL network is setting up shop on the land too. In the MMQB article it sounds like everything NFL network will be there.

So endless pimping of LA

 

[NoelPHX]

I'm not happy about this since LA will claim Vegas as their media market.

 

[Rivercard]

Sure, now there is, but check back when GB, Pitt, Dallas, etc come to town.

I'll be checking it out in person when the Cards come to town

 

[ozzfloyd]

3 is hardly several. Where is Jim Hart? Mel Gray? Jackie Smith? Neil Lomax? Roy Green? OJ Anderson? Every one of these players deserves to be in the ROH as all were great players for this team and yet they're not even mentioned. Why were none of these players brought in during our Super Bowl run? I look at a team like Philly putting McNabb and Dawkins in their honor role and yet we can't put in great players like those mentioned.

What's your definition of 'several'

sev·er·al
ˈsev(ə)rəl/
determiner & pronoun
determiner: several; pronoun: several
1.
more than two but not many.
"the author of several books"
synonyms:some, a number of, a few;

 

[Rivercard]

I work in a building that has a good view of Hollywood Park and the new Rams stadium site. I'll be able to watch it as it gets constructed.

 

[BillsCarnage]

I'll be checking it out in person when the Cards come to town

This is really going to be great for the Rams n Cards. Finally a natural division rival. I made a few SD games and will be more than happy for a roadie to LA.

Time for Cards fans to invade someone else stadium!

 

[Cheesebeef]

we should see if the Cardinals can hook all the Angelenos up with a block of tickets (that we'd still pay for of course) for our first roadie here next year.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Here's where we disagree. To me, TV market doesn't make for a deserving city for a sports franchise. The fans deserve a team, not a city. LA fans are notoriously apathetic toward their sports teams, especially if they're winning. Look at the Lakers during their heyday. Anyone who was anyone went to their games but now, not so much. Sure there are hardcore fans but they're outnumbered by those who go just to be seen.

this isn't really all that true. The Dodgers haven't won jack squat in almost 30 years and regularly are amongst the league leaders in attendance. And the Lakers have been atrocious for 3 years and they're still selling out games.

ugh... now I feel sick having defended LA fans, who I hate with a passion.

 

[WisconsinCard]

3 is hardly several. Where is Jim Hart? Mel Gray? Jackie Smith? Neil Lomax? Roy Green? OJ Anderson? Every one of these players deserves to be in the ROH as all were great players for this team and yet they're not even mentioned. Why were none of these players brought in during our Super Bowl run? I look at a team like Philly putting McNabb and Dawkins in their honor role and yet we can't put in great players like those mentioned.

Who knows maybe they've been asked and they don't want it. It took a long time before Dierdorf accepted the invitation.

 

[chickenhead]

Here's where we disagree. To me, TV market doesn't make for a deserving city for a sports franchise. The fans deserve a team, not a city. LA fans are notoriously apathetic toward their sports teams, especially if they're winning. Look at the Lakers during their heyday. Anyone who was anyone went to their games but now, not so much. Sure there are hardcore fans but they're outnumbered by those who go just to be seen.

Despite Kobe's farewell, the Lakers are in pretty bad shape but are still at 99.7% capacity right now according to ESPN. Their average attendance is better than the Spurs, Celtics, and Rockets, among 16 others including the Suns. (I just threw up typing something positive about the Lakers, btw.)

The Dodgers have always had great attendance since moving to LA. The crowd can be late arriving, but getting to and from Dodger Stadium is legendarily difficult, and is often during weekday rush hour. The Kings have great attendance now, but they're also in their most successful era. Historically they've been average at best, but they're also never going to be more popular than basketball/baseball/football. Both UCLA and USC tend to average in the 70,000s for their home games as well.

I guess I'm just saying that the ambivalence of Southern California fans is a popular opinion but not always an accurate one. In my years living on the east coast, I also went to a whole lot of quiet Yankees and Mets games. But I also tended to notice it because I'd always been told how much "better," or more "die-hard" fans were back east.

 

[chickenhead]

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

According to ESPN, despite having a horrific team yet again the Lakers are 11th in the NBA with an average home attendance of 18,999 which is sell out capacity for the Lakers at Staples. During the Lakers last championship year they averaged the same sell out attendance of 18,999.

The Suns are 19th in home attendance (17,269) and the Nets 28th (14,810).

You beat me to it. Hadn't gotten to your post yet

 

[chickenhead]

this isn't really all that true. The Dodgers haven't won jack squat in almost 30 years and regularly are amongst the league leaders in attendance. And the Lakers have been atrocious for 3 years and they're still selling out games.

ugh... now I feel sick having defended LA fans, who I hate with a passion.

Haha, you beat me to it as well. I've known a lot of great LA fans in my time, though.

 

[BigRedRage]

we should see if the Cardinals can hook all the Angelenos up with a block of tickets (that we'd still pay for of course) for our first roadie here next year.

maybe i should purchase 20 seats and broker em

 

[Cardsfanstl]

3 is hardly several. Where is Jim Hart? Mel Gray? Jackie Smith? Neil Lomax? Roy Green? OJ Anderson? Every one of these players deserves to be in the ROH as all were great players for this team and yet they're not even mentioned. Why were none of these players brought in during our Super Bowl run? I look at a team like Philly putting McNabb and Dawkins in their honor role and yet we can't put in great players like those mentioned.

Almost every one of the players you mentioned spent their entire careers in St. Louis and maybe do not want to be in the Arizona Cardinals ROH. I find it hard to believe the Bidwills have not asked them to be in it.

 

[az jam]

maybe i should purchase 20 seats and broker em

You may have a hard time selling them.