"Gotta watch the film".

[Timm Rosenbach]

Remember when The Cardinals had a head coach who blamed the players and kept hinting that the plan was perfect but the players didn’t execute? At least Kingsbury knows that he needs to fix the problem. More hopeful today after he repeated the line 7 times during his post-game interview

 

[PACardsFan]

The team we saw was far better than they have been all year and its because Cam is toast.

Exactly!!! If Cam played yesterday, we would have won. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we never see Cam Newton as the starting QB of the Carolina Panthers again.

 

[phillycard]

Bash the HC for watching film to determine what went wrong after a loss? ASFN has hit an all-time low.

az, I'm not bashing him. At least I'm not trying to. I do however want to hear more engagement and explanations more akin to a man who knows his team and it's strengths. Lack of execution is one of the more glaring issues, but Kliff has been in control long enough to give me more than what he did. I'm sorry if I come across too harsh with it.

 

[wit3card]

Exactly!!! If Cam played yesterday, we would have won. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we never see Cam Newton as the starting QB of the Carolina Panthers again.

this might be what happens, Cam was really bad in his last starts

 

[CardLogic]

listen im still pissed because we lost to a bad team with a backup QB that deep down we all knew and in fact joked that he was going to beat us. And play like Peyton Manning. We have seen this movie 100 times. But let's look at this way. we have tied obviously a good Detroit team and could have beaten a very good Ravens team. We have always choked against bad teams. Except with Arians in his hey day.
I was furious yesterday but we have in the last 10 years made it to a Super Bowl and then an NFC championship game. Detroit Dallas Cleveland Cincinnati and numerous other teams havent come close to that. If we put this in perspective we are not that bad off.
Especially when again....we all knew yesterday was going to happen. The minute Cam wasnt going to play....we lost. Even with Warner we lost some horrible games. Remember we couldnt run at the clock against the rams in a game where all we had to do was kneel!!! We let Testerverde come off a couch and beat us. We had Super Bowl hype and let Jimmy Garrapolo beat us. Our heartache has been much much worse than this.
And yet all of us basically feel this is the worst. 4 days ago...Murray was 1 of 2 players in the history of football to throw for 300 in first 2 games. Now some want him traded back for Rosen....who litterally couldnt back pedal without getting sacked. We are spoiled. This is a billion times better than McGinnis. end of Whisenhunts time....and last year with Wilks. Who looked like a baby deer learning to walk.

Great post!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The team we saw was far better than they have been all year and its because Cam is toast.

We have played against 3 QBs and all of them had absolutely stellar performance, even some record breaking performances.

Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern.

 

[PACardsFan]

listen im still pissed because we lost to a bad team with a backup QB that deep down we all knew and in fact joked that he was going to beat us. And play like Peyton Manning. We have seen this movie 100 times. But let's look at this way. we have tied obviously a good Detroit team and could have beaten a very good Ravens team. We have always choked against bad teams. Except with Arians in his hey day.
I was furious yesterday but we have in the last 10 years made it to a Super Bowl and then an NFC championship game. Detroit Dallas Cleveland Cincinnati and numerous other teams havent come close to that. If we put this in perspective we are not that bad off.
Especially when again....we all knew yesterday was going to happen. The minute Cam wasnt going to play....we lost. Even with Warner we lost some horrible games. Remember we couldnt run at the clock against the rams in a game where all we had to do was kneel!!! We let Testerverde come off a couch and beat us. We had Super Bowl hype and let Jimmy Garrapolo beat us. Our heartache has been much much worse than this.
And yet all of us basically feel this is the worst. 4 days ago...Murray was 1 of 2 players in the history of football to throw for 300 in first 2 games. Now some want him traded back for Rosen....who litterally couldnt back pedal without getting sacked. We are spoiled. This is a billion times better than McGinnis. end of Whisenhunts time....and last year with Wilks. Who looked like a baby deer learning to walk.

I agree with much of your post, but disagree in that I don't think for a second that Carolina is a bad team. Cam Newton was holding that team back. Rivera is a solid NFL coach & they have one of the best running backs in all of football. Their secondary is solid, as they held the Rams to under 200 yards in the air. If not for 3 turnovers by Cam, they definitely beat the Rams in their opener. 3 more turnovers & another crap game by Cam cost them their 2nd loss to TB. If Allen was under center for all 3 games, they would be 3-0.

 

[PACardsFan]

We have played against 3 QBs and all of them had absolutely stellar performance, even some record breaking performances.

Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern.

Well, all 3 are very good QB's. Stafford just beat the Eagles in Philly. Jackson is legit & almost beat the Chiefs in KC. Don't sell Allen short. If he was under center instead of Cam, they probably would be 3-0.

 

[BigRedRage]

az, I'm not bashing him. At least I'm not trying to. I do however want to hear more engagement and explanations more akin to a man who knows his team and it's strengths. Lack of execution is one of the more glaring issues, but Kliff has been in control long enough to give me more than what he did. I'm sorry if I come across too harsh with it.

imagine if we had bellicheck as the coach

 

[BigRedRage]

We have played against 3 QBs and all of them had absolutely stellar performance, even some record breaking performances.

Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern.

oh yeah, our D is terrible in the secondary without our top two corners but also, the panthers were terrible with Cam. His accuracy was off, his ankle hurts so hes not mobile and they were just putrid. I had the pleasure of sitting through their week 1 and week 2 games and was surprised at how bad Cam looked.

Plus the first two quarterbacks are know good quarterbacks. Allen was the "surprise" but no one was surprised really. He looked that way in spot duty last year too.

I would keep allen in moving forward if I were them. Granted, they have to for a minimum 3 more weeks so we will see how he does.

 

[Chopper0080]

oh yeah, our D is terrible in the secondary without our top two corners but also, the panthers were terrible with Cam. His accuracy was off, his ankle hurts so hes not mobile and they were just putrid. I had the pleasure of sitting through their week 1 and week 2 games and was surprised at how bad Cam looked.

Plus the first two quarterbacks are know good quarterbacks. Allen was the "surprise" but no one was surprised really. He looked that way in spot duty last year too.

I would keep allen in moving forward if I were them. Granted, they have to for a minimum 3 more weeks so we will see how he does.

I will make a bit of an excuse for the secondary. Secondaries are best when they are communicating really well and gel as a unit. That has been a frustration of mine under Keim. Continuity really helps some units on the football field and both the offensive line and the secondary have had a lack of continuity for a while now.

 

[jmt]

imagine if we had bellicheck as the coach

For sure we would not have won only three games last year.

 

[jmt]

imagine if we had bellicheck as the coach

For sure we would not have won only three games last year.

 

[iLLmatiC]

We have played against 3 QBs and all of them had absolutely stellar performance, even some record breaking performances.

Once Is Chance, Twice is Coincidence, Third Time Is A Pattern.

Well we did lose 1 and 2 for our defensive backs.

 

[BigRedRage]

For sure we would not have won only three games last year.

point is, he provides zero information to the media.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Well we did lose 1 and 2 for our defensive backs.

Agreed. Even with Pat P last year, our pass D was depressing. It is getting worse.

I hope when he comes back, he is fully committed and we aren't 0-5-1.

 

[iLLmatiC]

Agreed. Even with Pat P last year, our pass D was depressing. It is getting worse.

I hope when he comes back, he is fully committed and we aren't 0-5-1.

I just hope we don't go 0-15-1. Times are looking pretty hopeless right now.