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"If the Cardinals' running game was ineffective, there would likely be far less success in the passing game. With no experienced proficient passer behind center, there would likely be no running game. With both, life as a Cardinals blocker gets magically more enjoyable. This is football symbiosis in all its glory".

I'd simply add that the offense and defense work similarly in conjunction. If one is off, it makes it that much harder for the other unit. They're experiencing a very healthy balance betwee both, fueling the success.
 

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"Naturally, he facing one of the best defenses in football because to boot, which seems only right in a cruel NFL world."

Ummmm, what? Doesn't anyone have proofreaders anymore? Cmon Foxsports... lol
 

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Remember that the last time Seattle faced Carson Palmer, we won. In Seattle.

We didn't look so good last year, especially last game. But then we were on a third string QB.

Story.

people also need to remember that the last time we won in Seattle, the D had Abraham, Dansby and Washington making up probably the top 3, if not top LBing corps in the league... which helped hold the Hawks to 10 points, despite Palmer having 4 picks.
 

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this will be a great test to see just how good this Offense really is against a very good defense. We've shown that we can beat up on the weaklings of the league. Now the rubber hits the road.
 

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people also need to remember that the last time we won in Seattle, the D had Abraham, Dansby and Washington making up probably the top 3, if not top LBing corps in the league... which helped hold the Hawks to 10 points, despite Palmer having 4 picks.
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this will be a great test to see just how good this Offense really is against a very good defense. We've shown that we can beat up on the weaklings of the league. Now the rubber hits the road.

It will be. In the 35-6 game last year we were down 8 going into the 4th with Lindley at QB and Taylor and Grice at RB but then we ran out of steam they got a drive, then a huge run by Lynch, a pick and another drive and it was over.

One would assume the offense will be able to move the ball more against them this time and keep the defense off the field more so we won't be so gassed in the 4th quarter.

Tough to win there the crowd noise etc but it should be a fascinating game to watch. Essentially this is it for Seattle, if they lose they're 3 full games behind us in the loss column and still have to come to Arizona so they will be as fired up as can be as will their crowd.
 
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The matchups should have analysts licking their chops.

Cards are #3 in both offense and defense; Hawks are #2 in defense but #19 in offense. Cards #4 in passing, Hawks are #2 against passing. Cards Defense is #4 against the rush, Hawks #3 in rushing.
 

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It will be. In the 35-6 game last year we were down 8 going into the 4th with Lindley at QB and Taylor and Grice at RB but then we ran out of steam they got a drive, then a huge run by Lynch, a pick and another drive and it was over.

this is true, but I also think last year's D was much tougher than this year's D. Our offense is MILES ahead obviously. But this is a show-me game, for both teams.

Tough to win there the crowd noise etc but it should be a fascinating game to watch. Essentially this is it for Seattle, if they lose they're 3 full games behind us in the loss column and still have to come to Arizona so they will be as fired up as can be as will their crowd.

and there's no reason we shouldn't be fired up as well. This is one of those turn the tides of the division games. We've yet to beat anyone with a pulse, this team has to know that and they have to know that they can slay the dragon for the season if they get this W. I can't wait to see how we respond up there.
 

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Weather on Sunday

High of 47, Low of 39
70% Chance of Rain at night, heavier rains should come earlier in the day
Winds SSE at 5-10 mph

Cold and rainy.
 

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I just want to beat the hawks so people will stop talking about them making their late season run. Because other than that and they are a division rival this game doesnt mean a whole lot to me.

If we win, great. We should have. If we lose, ok. It doesnt torpedo the season.

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I just want to beat the hawks so people will stop talking about them making their late season run. Because other than that and they are a division rival this game doesnt mean a whole lot to me.

If we win, great. We should have. If we lose, ok. It doesnt torpedo the season.

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I can see where you are coming from. However, if our team has the same sense of urgency as you feel, we are in trouble. Seattle is looking at this like a playoff game. Cards better be too. Intensity has been an issue all season. If they can't get up for this one, they don't have what it takes to go very far.
 

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I can see where you are coming from. However, if our team has the same sense of urgency as you feel, we are in trouble. Seattle is looking at this like a playoff game. Cards better be too. Intensity has been an issue all season. If they can't get up for this one, they don't have what it takes to go very far.
Don't get me wrong, I want to win every game. There are only 16 of them each season and so every one is important. However, Seattle needs to win this game a heck of a lot more than we do.

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I'm starting to get the feeling that people are already making excuses (weather, Seattle needs the game more, etc.) in the event that we lose to yet another team who actually has a pulse.
 

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I'm starting to get the feeling that people are already making excuses (weather, Seattle needs the game more, etc.) in the event that we lose to yet another team who actually has a pulse.

I don't think it's excuses, it's just being realistic. These are tough road games for any team. I think the Rams game that we lose was the only real shocker. At the beginning of the year, I'm sure many people had us penciled in to lose on the road in Pitt and Seattle. If we win, it puts us in a great position but if we lose, we are still in the mix.
 

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I'm starting to get the feeling that people are already making excuses (weather, Seattle needs the game more, etc.) in the event that we lose to yet another team who actually has a pulse.

I definitely did not post the weather as an excuse, just an update because B-Train was talking about it on his show. In fact, I will go so far as to say it is a good thing for us. If the weather grounds the passing game for both teams, then Russell Wilson can't scramble and pick up big yards.

If you look at the 2 teams rushing this year, the Seahawks average 4.6 yards per carry, while the Cards average 4.5.

However, when you take the QB's (most likely scrambling) out of the mix, the Seahawks drop to an average of 4.3 YPA, while the Cards actually increase to 4.7.

Of course, our play action passing opens up a lot of stuff for our rushing attack, so if the passing game is neutralized by the weather, Seattle will be able to stack the box too.

Bottom line, if both teams are able to key the run because of weather, then I like the Cards' OL better than the SEA OL at getting a push and making things happen.

I doubt that happens because the rain should be light and there shouldn't be too much wind, so the passing game may come down to which receivers can hold onto the ball better. I would generally like the Cards in this category, but Seattle actually leads the League in fewest dropped passes per game. Advantage, Seattle.

So all of this is a very long way of saying, I don't know that the current weather forecast will have much impact on favoring one team over the other, except that Seattle will be more acclimated to it than the Cards.
 

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Even with all the build up about playoff atmosphere and Seattle needs this game I can already see that if the Cards win the narrative will be what is wrong with the Seahawks, Cardinals still have not beat a winning team, etc.

Whatever, I just want them to destroy the Seahawks and not make the game or the division race that close.
 

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I don't think it's excuses, it's just being realistic. These are tough road games for any team. I think the Rams game that we lose was the only real shocker. At the beginning of the year, I'm sure many people had us penciled in to lose on the road in Pitt and Seattle. If we win, it puts us in a great position but if we lose, we are still in the mix.

I get all that but in the mix shouldn't be this teams goal. If they want a super bowl they need to win some games like this. This team could be the team to beat not just in the mix. If the don't win I'm not jumping off a bridge. Better yet win the next two and you own the mix.
 

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I get all that but in the mix shouldn't be this teams goal. If they want a super bowl they need to win some games like this. This team could be the team to beat not just in the mix. If the don't win I'm not jumping off a bridge. Better yet win the next two and you own the mix.

This.
 

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I will say it right now, this season the Cardinals have more talent than the Seahawks and have no excuse for losing to them if they think they are a Super Bowl contender because this Seattle team is not :)
 

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I will say it right now, this season the Cardinals have more talent than the Seahawks and have no excuse for losing to them if they think they are a Super Bowl contender because this Seattle team is not :)

Thank you, best post in this thread.
 

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Thank you, best post in this thread.

I get all that but in the mix shouldn't be this teams goal. If they want a super bowl they need to win some games like this. This team could be the team to beat not just in the mix. If the don't win I'm not jumping off a bridge. Better yet win the next two and you own the mix.

Along with this one.
 
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