Green: Henry trade still possible

[CardsGuy]

Green: Henry trade still possible

By DARREN URBAN TRIBUNE
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****The Cardinals’ potential trade for running back Travis Henry still "has a heartbeat," Arizona coach Dennis Green said Wednesday.
****But as expected, if a deal does happen, it is almost certain to occur during the draft, long after the Cardinals have exercised their first pick, the eighth overall.
****Green acknowledged the now widely reported news that the Bills don’t want to swap Henry for tackle L.J. Shelton straight up, and that Buffalo wants Arizona’s second-round pick (No. 44) in exchange for Buffalo’s second-rounder (No. 55).
****The Cardinals also have a chance to draft one of the three top running backs available: Auburn’s Ronnie Brown and Carnell "Cadillac" Williams and Texas’ Cedric Benson.
****"If the draft goes a certain way, and we take a player (in the first round) and that player happens to be a running back, that phone will never ring," Green said. "If the draft goes on and we don’t take a running back, they will probably still be trying to move up."
****Green said he hasn’t ruled out swapping the second-round picks, although he said he was certain good running backs would still be available in the second round and possibly the third.
****Buffalo general manager Tom Donahoe told Buffalo reporters this week the Bills were "not interested" in only getting Shelton for Henry. Henry is desperately trying to force a trade out of Buffalo.
****"We will decide what’s a fair offer, not Travis and not his agent" Donahoe said. "We will see what happens over the next couple of weeks. If it happens, great. If not, Travis has a contract to play for the Buffalo Bills."
****Green didn’t say if the Cardinals would take a back in the first round if one was available. But he didn’t sound completely sold on Henry either, especially since Henry has one year left on his contract and Green has made it clear the Cards will not give him an extension before he would play for them.
****"If we did a trade for Travis Henry tomorrow, it would take us out of the market for any of those three young backs, and the risk is Travis is on a one-year deal," Green said. "I’m not saying we wouldn’t take those risks, but they are there and we have to recognize that."
****EXTRA POINTS
****Not only has tackle Leonard Davis shown up for voluntary workouts, he made sure to get the message across Wednesday. Eyeing a reporter while working out with the offensive line on the field, Davis waved while wearing a wide smile and yelled out, "I’m here!" Davis has eschewed the workouts in years past. . . .
****The NFL Network and Cox Communications signed an agreement Wednesday that will bring the channel to Cox cable. Cox is the carrier for the majority of cable systems in the Valley. The channel is scheduled to make its Cox debut in time for preseason games, which begin in August.

 

[Rocco]

Alright Big!

 

[Rocco]

Tommy Boy is taking a real boom or bust stand in Buffalo.

 

[clif]

****The NFL Network and Cox Communications signed an agreement Wednesday that will bring the channel to Cox cable. Cox is the carrier for the majority of cable systems in the Valley. The channel is scheduled to make its Cox debut in time for preseason games, which begin in August.

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mdamien13]

****Green said he hasn’t ruled out swapping the second-round picks, although he said he was certain good running backs would still be available in the second round and possibly the third.

Darren Sproles!!!!

 

[CardinalLaw]

Urbin was also on FTB, nothing really new he did say that during the interview he got the feeling that if a RB that Denny likes is there, he will be going RB. He said he is not sure which one Denny likes.

Not only has tackle Leonard Davis shown up for voluntary workouts, he made sure to get the message across Wednesday. Eyeing a reporter while working out with the offensive line on the field, Davis waved while wearing a wide smile and yelled out, "I’m here!" Davis has eschewed the workouts in years past. . . .

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

love to see big buying in. another difference denny has made. and that's WITHOUT the rah-rah heartbeat crap of mac. see, a real coach makes a real difference.

everyone involved w/ the cards and bills needs to stop talking. i just don't want to read it anymore. if it happens, great, if not, so be it, just shut up already.

 

[Rocco]

love to see big buying in. another difference denny has made. and that's WITHOUT the rah-rah heartbeat crap of mac. see, a real coach makes a real difference.

everyone involved w/ the cards and bills needs to stop talking. i just don't want to read it anymore. if it happens, great, if not, so be it, just shut up already.

I always thought Mac would make a great college coach though. He'd sell the recruits, charm the boosters and rah rah the team to a national championship. He's perfect for the college game IMO. He could be the next Lou Holtz.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I always thought Mac would make a great college coach though. He'd sell the recruits, charm the boosters and rah rah the team to a national championship. He's perfect for the college game IMO. He could be the next Lou Holtz.

UH - you still need to somewhat be able to coach football or surround yourself with people who know how to coach football and seeing as he surrounded himself with coaches - Marmie(a FAILURE as a HC in college) and whatever Drek of the Month club at OC - I'd say he'd be JUST as bad there as he was here.

Sorry - but Stoopes, Carrol, Saban, Spurrier and pretty much all the rest of the great coaches of the modern era(last 20 years or so) don't sound like backwater hicks when they talk - as Mac did. Each one fo them sound like a man with command - a man who deserves respect - not a man who you want to sit down, get schnockered with and then make of him because he's sounds like a schmuck.

 

[conraddobler]

love to see big buying in. another difference denny has made. and that's WITHOUT the rah-rah heartbeat crap of mac. see, a real coach makes a real difference.

everyone involved w/ the cards and bills needs to stop talking. i just don't want to read it anymore. if it happens, great, if not, so be it, just shut up already.

 

[conraddobler]

UH - you still need to somewhat be able to coach football or surround yourself with people who know how to coach football and seeing as he surrounded himself with coaches - Marmie(a FAILURE as a HC in college) and whatever Drek of the Month club at OC - I'd say he'd be JUST as bad there as he was here.

Sorry - but Stoopes, Carrol, Saban, Spurrier and pretty much all the rest of the great coaches of the modern era(last 20 years or so) don't sound like backwater hicks when they talk - as Mac did. Each one fo them sound like a man with command - a man who deserves respect - not a man who you want to sit down, get schnockered with and then make of him because he's sounds like a schmuck.

Maybe a college coach of 20 years ago.

When recruits have the ability to search the entire internet as well as have advisors from day one telling them where their talents will be best used and highlighted then Mac would flame out just like he did here.

Mac would make a great color commentator for a local high school football radio broadcast in Texas, that much I'd give him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Maybe a college coach of 20 years ago.

When recruits have the ability to search the entire internet as well as have advisors from day one telling them where their talents will be best used and highlighted then Mac would flame out just like he did here.

Mac would make a great color commentator for a local high school football radio broadcast in Texas, that much I'd give him.

ouch - and completely agree.

Man - just read that last sentence again - yeeouch!

 

[MadCardDisease]

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

 

[Rocco]

UH - you still need to somewhat be able to coach football or surround yourself with people who know how to coach football and seeing as he surrounded himself with coaches - Marmie(a FAILURE as a HC in college) and whatever Drek of the Month club at OC - I'd say he'd be JUST as bad there as he was here.

Sorry - but Stoopes, Carrol, Saban, Spurrier and pretty much all the rest of the great coaches of the modern era(last 20 years or so) don't sound like backwater hicks when they talk - as Mac did. Each one fo them sound like a man with command - a man who deserves respect - not a man who you want to sit down, get schnockered with and then make of him because he's sounds like a schmuck.

You must think more highly of the college game than I do. I'm not really knocking it, but I think Mac has more than enough X's and O's in him to be successful at the college level. The biggest thing that still exists in the college game is the emotion. Mac could sell that in heartbeat. It's much less of a factor in the pros. You don't think a Geep Chryst couldn't be a successful college assistant coach? Or a Warhop, who was a very successful college line coach?

I agree it would depend on which school in which part of the country that he went to. And coaches these days do sound more like CEOS than football men. But a guy like Tommy Tuberville is doing OK at Auburn. Mack Brown at Texas, etc.

 

[wilycoyote24]

Sorry - but Stoopes, Carrol, Saban, Spurrier and pretty much all the rest of the great coaches of the modern era(last 20 years or so) don't sound like backwater hicks when they talk - as Mac did.

Bobby Bowden talks like a backwater hick and he has done pretty well for himself.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Bobby Bowden talks like a backwater hick and he has done pretty well for himself.

he's also an offensive genius - but even lately - FSU hasn't really been a national title contender for the last half decade or so.

Bowden may talk like a backwater hick - but the man - was wayyyy ahead of the times as far as Offense was concerned in College Football - meaning he's a tactician first and a rah-rah guy second. As opposed to Mac - who is a rah-rah guy first, second, third, fourth...

 

[Rocco]

he's also an offensive genius - but even lately - FSU hasn't really been a national title contender for the last half decade or so.

Bowden may talk like a backwater hick - but the man - was wayyyy ahead of the times as far as Offense was concerned in College Football - meaning he's a tactician first and a rah-rah guy second. As opposed to Mac - who is a rah-rah guy first, second, third, fourth...

I don't think the guy has lasted this long in the NFL by being an incompetent coach. Sorry.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't think the guy has lasted this long in the NFL by being an incompetent coach. Sorry.

are you kidding? Incompetent coaches last forever in the NFL - look at Mean Joe Greene - or Foge Fazio or Coach Mac or Paul Hackett - it's a good loe' boys network where incompetency slides by because of familiarity and fear. You think it's a coincidence that Mac's defenses in Choicago were never as good as previous ones - or that our defenses were ALWAYS lousy or that the Titans defense completely sucked ass last year?

 

[Rocco]

are you kidding? Incompetent coaches last forever in the NFL - look at Mean Joe Greene - or Foge Fazio or Coach Mac or Paul Hackett - it's a good loe' boys network where incompetency slides by because of familiarity and fear. You think it's a coincidence that Mac's defenses in Choicago were never as good as previous ones - or that our defenses were ALWAYS lousy or that the Titans defense completely sucked ass last year?

Greene is out of the NFL now. Paul Hackett has had a solid rep as an assistant for years. I don't think he's an incompetent either.

There is a coaching network. But a job in the NFL is considered the top of the line for an assistant coach. Has to be a reason for it other than the pay.

 

[conraddobler]

Greene is out of the NFL now. Paul Hackett has had a solid rep as an assistant for years. I don't think he's an incompetent either.

There is a coaching network. But a job in the NFL is considered the top of the line for an assistant coach. Has to be a reason for it other than the pay.

Mac and Marmie are the poster children of good ol boy networking.

Why does Marmie have a job?

Just answer that one question because for the life of me I can't without falling back on it's not always what you know but who you know.

 

[Rocco]

Mac and Marmie are the poster children of good ol boy networking.

Why does Marmie have a job?

I really don't know why Conrad. To be truthful, I don't really care either. I like him just fine in St. Louis as far as the Cards are concerned. Hope he stays there too. For a long time. But I think he's going to be out of the NFL soon as well.

You and Cheesie think that Mac is an incompetent football coach. I didn't like him as our head coach but I do think he is a competent NFL assistant coach and would make a fine college head coach. Like Gene Stallings.

 

[arthurracoon]

Mac and Marmie are the poster children of good ol boy networking.

Why does Marmie have a job?

Because Mike Martz and Larie Marmie are great friends.

If Mac had gotten the Chicago HC job, Mike Martz would have been his OC, and Marmie his DC.

 

[Mulli]

Because Mike Martz and Larie Marmie are great friends.

If Mac had gotten the Chicago HC job, Mike Martz would have been his OC, and Marmie his DC.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

I always thought Mac would make a great college coach though. He'd sell the recruits, charm the boosters and rah rah the team to a national championship. He's perfect for the college game IMO. He could be the next Lou Holtz.

With this logic Ronald McDonald, Sponge Bob and the Saturday Night Live Cheerleaders would all be coaching.

 

[JeffGollin]

Philly in the Fray...

I only skimmed it, but there's a KFFL report that the Eagles are now expressing interest in Henry. Uhh...here it is. To me, it looks nuts:

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles have shown interest in Buffalo Bills RB Travis Henry. The Bills have phoned the Eagles on more than one occasion, but Henry's interest in a new contract could kill a potential trade from coming about. While the Bills are looking for a second-round draft choice, they would probably take a third-round or even a fourth-rounder that could move up to a third-rounder based off of incentives.

If all the Bills were looking for was a second round pick and they'd even settle for a 3rd or 4th rounder, why wouldn't the Cardinals consider doing something like that and then look to spin off Shelton in a different deal?