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Tango, I think one of the reasons that Green doesn't want the team to be talking is because of all of the talk last year of teams knowing all of our plays before the game. He was probably looking at the tapes last year and seeing the opposing team call out our plays. He probably just wants to make sure that doesn't happen again. I really don't think he's giving out that much information right now....
 

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Mac pretty much left the cupboard bare which could delay our future successive trips to the playoffs for a couple years - but I'm patient - I can wait because I have faith now with DG and somehwat with Graves -

Fortunately it doesn't take long to rebuild in the NFL. The Cards replaced 3 WR's, the QB, FB and Center on the offense and one year later Green is talking about having the talent to be in the top 5 or 10 and everyone is really excited about the WR's.

One big plus for the offense this season will be that Kendall has a year's experience playing center. Experience is extremely important at that position if the C is calling the blocking schemes.
 

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Tangodnzr said:
Mac, like anyone else, had his strengths and weaknesses.

Yes, he did have his strengths and weakneses. Unfortunately, "NFL Head Coach", just happened to be one of his weakneses.

Individual players may not speak out because:

First off, it creates discord and tension in the locker room. It adds to a you against us mentality rather than an us agains them attitude.

Secondly, individual players only have a "piece" of the puzzle. Only the head coach knows what the entire puzzle looks like, and therefore is the only one qualified to comment on it.

The goal is for these guys to bond as a team.
 

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Tangodnzr said:
I can agree that the focus of the "blame" for last year's record should fall on the coaching staff.
I would disagree with your insinuations and innuendos, however, in a number of ways.
Yes, the offense was truely inept last year, and the O-Line play was a big part of that....but not all. From my observations, the biggest problem last year, in regard to not only the O-Line but the entire offense, can be summed up in 4 words: Offensive Coordinator, Jerry Sullivan ! Well, actually I think you need to include O-line coach Pete Hoener in there too. To me, essentially there was no Offensive "plan" last year. Sullivan seemed to be flying by the seat of his pants. He was a duck out of water. So there, I would now include Mac. Sully should have never been put in that position. You can over-simplify and over-generalize, over-exaggerate like a college sophomore all you want, but there was no 1 single, simple reason for last year's performance (or lack of it).



Perfect example here....to begin with, if you want to exaggerate and fabricate what "I" may be thinking....the I'll go ahead and accomodate you, play your game with you, and begin by telling you, grammatically you should have ended you question with a question mark. :nono: :wave:
...as to content...just to save you some "speculation"...NO, I don't want Mac back. You certainly may call him an idiot, and consider him that. I don't ! Once again, reason for me saying sophomoric oversimplification! Mac, like anyone else, had his strengths and weaknesses. He was not all "bad" just as he was not all "good". Green, in that respect, is no different. He doesn't walk on water. He has individual strengths and weaknesses too. Time will reveal to those who care to observe...what those are now. He does bring a "different" array of those talents and skills to this "game", Hopefully some that are able to improve the situation.

Now....back to the previous paragraph.

again, IMO, the lack of organization, stemming from Sully's ineptness of proper planning resulted in talents being wasted and mis-used. The players can only do what they are "supposed" to do, in that regard. I said back then, as I do now, that most good OC's learn THEIR job coming up through the QB or maybe even sometimes RB coach avenue. Mainly the QB, where they have to know what "everyone" on the field is doing and how their actions intertwine. That is what was painfully lacking in Sully's case. Offensive Lineman going into pass blocking technique on a short and goal line run....players out of position, not due to a mental error on their part, but because of inept play design.....etc, etc, etc.
couple that with Hoener being new at his job too, after the departure of George Warhop (for better or worse) to Dallas....and I think you really have to look no further to point a finger for most of the "blame" for the O-Line's problems last year.

But even that, alone, was not totally responsible for the 4-12 record. There were many others too.



So say you. Just because you have the power or right to do something doesn't always make you right in doing it !!!!!

Once again..."sophmoric" over simplification.

....if you want to poke out little jabs.....you should not be surprised if you elicit some counter punches.
....but one word of caution.....
don't bring a knife to a gun fight. :thumbup: :D
The problem here is....you read more into the post than I wrote. I wasn't refering to you like you don't know whats up. As far as my grammer, you've got me there. No DISRESPECT INTENDED.


I don't want this to turn into a "fiasco." LOL


Just because some use better grammar doesn't make them any smarter. After all, I'm not the one who got mad over a message board post. Now you can turn off your computer and yell at your wife in proper english, good day.
 
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Jeff I am not a newbi to being a Cardinal fan. I became a fan in mid 70s. I have not paid a lot of attention to them since they signed Blake and Smith last year. As far as Green is concerned I will believe it when I see it.
 
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Here here! It's camp time. About Kendall.... Remember him getting ticked last year against the Rams in Tempe when the Cardinals were marching down the field to take the lead...I think...and Sully couldn't get the play in on time so they called a timeout? Kendall was....upset...say no more, say no more. Play calling this year will be much much better. He can channel his energy into playing center and venting his frustration on opposing teams. :hulk:
 

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You said a mouthful there azdad1978. I enjoy your post sometimes, I dont post here often, but I read alot.

I agree CardsRep03.
 
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black said:
You said a mouthful there azdad1978. I enjoy your post sometimes, I dont post here often, but I read alot.

What do you want from me? I'm stuck in the office doing paperwork the whole day today. This board takes the load of my shoulders. So If I put a smiley face it somewhere cause I'm agreeing with somebody.
 

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You post articles that are good reads don't you? No I dont want anything from anybody.
 

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I remember that game with Kendale besides himself after the play came in late. How many motion, off sides, late play calls, bad use of time outs. In a couple of games in the first quarter we had already used up our time outs. I loved Mac as a man who wanted to win, I was glad when he left he had no clue.

On the other side if you watched his defense in the 1998 play off game against the boys you see the reason he got the head coach job. His Backs Chavous, aeneas, Tillman, even knight played lights out.Miller awesome, Wadsworth and Rice with Mark smith. They were special for that game.Mac is seen on the sidelines talking to each one staying on top of things. The old domino theory got him, one step up to much.

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