Grizzlies vs Warriors

[TJ]

Order is being restored in this series. I don't see Memphis winning another game.

 

[Russ Smith]

He was implicated in a drug ring or something early in his Memphis days.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....-as-major-marijuana-supplier-in-indianapolis/

The evidence seemed pretty damning... cars he owned, storage sheds he owned, being used to stash a ton of drugs. That he got off makes me think one of his buddies that were doing the actual selling took the fall for him... probably for a big reward.

And just a few years ago this one happened:

http://deadspin.com/5893632/police-pointed-a-gun-at-zach-randolph-while-he-was-in-bed-with-a-woman

At least the positive to take from that article is that he seems to have gone from a drug supplier to merely a user.

And you've got this doozy of a quote...



Yikes!

Zach seems to have let matured a bit but I'd be queasy about having to root for a guy like that.

Anyhoo, I'm going to be bummed if the Grizz win this. The Warriors play a beautiful brand of basketball.

How did you feel when Arizona hired Damon Stoudamire?

Ever read the stories about how Damon avoided a potentially major drug charge that could have included intent to distribute? The police got a call that the door to his house was wide open and the alarm was going off. They arrived, nobody responded so they went in. There was apparently an attic type room that had one of those pull down staircase thigns and it wasn't closed so the police decided someone broke in and might be hiding in there. They looked and found a huge bag of pot, packed in smaller bags like for distribution.

The bag was open, Damon wasn't there so the police left him a note saying they'd responded to a false alarm and would be back. They came back a few days later and charged him with possession, it was a felony, they didn't charge him with intent to distribute. He blamed his dad, said the bag belonged to his dad for personal use.

Then his lawyer got the whole thing dropped on a technicality that the police had no right to go into his home, they should have assumed it wsa a false alarm given how common they are, and how many Damon's place had in the past. The judge agreed, the entire search was ruled illegal.

I don't know if Zach did anything or not but at least in his case he actually had plausible deniability, eh was paying for stuff but may not have known what the friend was doign with it. Damon literally threw his own father under teh bus.

 

[Phrazbit]

He may have had deniability, but I wouldn't call it plausible, especially given his track record. He let some buddy take the fall, probably payed him a fortune to do so.

As for Stoudamire... he does not seem likeable either, but who cares? I was responding to the idea that Randolph's issues were all distant memories.

 

[Russ Smith]

He may have had deniability, but I wouldn't call it plausible, especially given his track record. He let some buddy take the fall, probably payed him a fortune to do so.

As for Stoudamire... he does not seem likeable either, but who cares? I was responding to the idea that Randolph's issues were all distant memories.

I was just wondering if you were as concerned about his past deeds as Randolph's. I would think as an assistant coach hired to be around 18-22 year olds his criminal history would be a bit more disturbing than Randolph who's still just an NBA player.

I don't know if Zach was a major pot dealer or not but my gut tells me given how many times he's been implicated in things involving buying pot, he's not a dealer. Why would a huge pot dealer get arrested for having his entourage assault a drug dealer in Portland(2012) or some of the other things he's been involved with. He's clearly a recreational user of pot, he clearly hangs out with people who have an involvement in some criminal enterprises, so to me it's entirely plausible that one of these guys used his money to do all that stuff and then got caught and Zach's name was on it because he paid for it. If you're a dealer, you don't buy pot for personal use you already have it I would think.

It's also of course possible that Zach is just incredibly dumb and did it to make even more money, just seems unlikely to me.

I still think in the whole scheme of things what Stoudamire did was way worse, it still amazes me that nobody seemed to bat an eye when ARizona hired him. He was a multiple drug offender, he actually got caught trying to smuggle 35 grams of pot wrapped in aluminum foil, in his luggage, onto a plane.

In the other incident they found thousands of dollars worth of pot, well over the limit considered as for sale in the state of Oregon at the time. And the part that always bugged me the most was he literally blamed his dad for it. But I guess given how many NBA and college players routinely use pot it shouldn't be a surprise that what both guys did is sort of routinely overlooked now.

 

[Phrazbit]

I don't think Randolph was out there personally slinging drugs around but I definitely think he funded that drug ring and I find it really hard to believe he had no idea it was happening and I expect he profited from it.

And his posse beating down a dealer only further makes me believe in his involvement, not less.

As to the why he would bother... same reason Aaron Hernandez was involved in that garbage. They're dumb, they're greedy and they think that life is cool.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't think Randolph was out there personally slinging drugs around but I definitely think he funded that drug ring and I find it really hard to believe he had no idea it was happening and I expect he profited from it.

And his posse beating down a dealer only further makes me believe in his involvement, not less.

As to the why he would bother... same reason Aaron Hernandez was involved in that garbage. They're dumb, they're greedy and they think that life is cool.

they beat down a dealer for the stupidest of all reasons, per the dealer himself. He showed up at a party that Randolph was at and offered to sell him pot for 120 bucks, Randolph said it was too much and offered 80, the dealer got mad and Randolph responded by grabbing the bag of pot and sicking his posse on the dealer. And yes,the dealer went to the police.

I've just always found it interesting how some people get a really bad rep they can never shake and others seem to get a clean slate and there's no obvious explanation why they're viewed so differently.

 

[Phrazbit]

they beat down a dealer for the stupidest of all reasons, per the dealer himself. He showed up at a party that Randolph was at and offered to sell him pot for 120 bucks, Randolph said it was too much and offered 80, the dealer got mad and Randolph responded by grabbing the bag of pot and sicking his posse on the dealer. And yes,the dealer went to the police.

I've just always found it interesting how some people get a really bad rep they can never shake and others seem to get a clean slate and there's no obvious explanation why they're viewed so differently.

I dunno, but when even his High School coach finds it likely that Randolph will one day likely murder someone or be murdered himself I gotta assume that Randolph has some issues that go beyond the typical foolishness of youth.

 

[Absolute Zero]

1st team all defense is out tonight.

This doesn't bode well for the Grizz

 

[Russ Smith]

I dunno, but when even his High School coach finds it likely that Randolph will one day likely murder someone or be murdered himself I gotta assume that Randolph has some issues that go beyond the typical foolishness of youth.

Sure, depends on the context, doesn't mean he actually thought Zach was going to kill someone he could have been saying hey at least he's not out there shooting or killing someone.

Both guys played in Portland and it's surprising that of the 2, the one the GM most wanted to part ways with was Stoudamire. Remember the GM publicly stated we are so tired of him getting in trouble we would void his contract today if we can find a way to do so under the CBA.

 

[FArting]

Warriors win in 6.