Gronkowski Pro Day Workout Results

[Cbus cardsfan]

Rest assured we are not picking a TE at #26. If the guys we want at #26 are not there we probably trade back into the second round to pick up and extra third or 4th.

if Gresham is there at 26, he has to be in the conversation and it wouldn't surprise me if he was selected.

 

[Monty]

if Gresham is there at 26, he has to be in the conversation and it wouldn't surprise me if he was selected.

You cannot say never but i just dont see the Cardinals going that way. Only team i see potentially selecting Gresham in the first is the Ravens.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You cannot say never but i just dont see the Cardinals going that way. Only team i see potentially selecting Gresham in the first is the Ravens.

I've seen him linked to the Bengals but i don't know why they would take him. They took Coffman last year and had a young guy play for them alot this past year when Kelly went down.

 

[Monty]

I've seen him linked to the Bengals but i don't know why they would take him. They took Coffman last year and had a young guy play for them alot this past year when Kelly went down.

Cincinnati has been linked with a bunch of TE's including Gronkowski and i think its mainly because they dont really have any potent receiving option other then Ochocinco. They might take him in the second but i think they have too many options in the first they'd be stupid to pass up for a TE. I see them going for a safety like Earl Thomas or Taylor Mays if either of them is on the board when they pick.

 

[TJ]

if Gresham is there at 26, he has to be in the conversation and it wouldn't surprise me if he was selected.

I would be OK if we picked Gresham as long as I knew that Whis was going to utilize the TE more so than previous seasons.

One would imagine that a coach who was a former tight end himself would think about taking a Gresham or a Gronk in this draft.

 

[Monty]

I would be OK if we picked Gresham as long as I knew that Whis was going to utilize the TE more so than previous seasons.

One would imagine that a coach who was a former tight end himself would think about taking a Gresham or a Gronk in this draft.

I completely forgot that Whisenhunt was a TE himself

However i still dont see us going for a TE till after the 3rd.

 

[Pariah]

One would imagine that a coach who was a former tight end himself would think about taking a Gresham or a Gronk in this draft.

Neither of those guys really fit the role how Whiz did, though. Whiz was much more of an H-Back. I'll bet the guys Whiz sees a little of himself aren't really going off the board in the first couple of rounds, but rather the jack-of-all-trades (master of none) guys in the middle to late rounds.

JMHO

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Yet somehow this back-and-forth argument you keep instigating contributes to the conversation? Take your own advice and let's just move on...

Anyways, Drew Rosenhaus is a pretty funny dude. Making statements like Gronk will be drafted in the mid-first round seem like a stretch at best. I don't think I have heard anyone mention that Gronk will be the first TE off the board (though that doesn't necessarily mean anything).

Which brings me to my next point. It was mentioned in the Cards Underground podcast that the Cardinals would be running far less 3-4 WR sets and far more 2 TE 2 WR sets. If this is the case, it would seem like our need for a receiving TE would increase. I know Whis likes a traditional blocking TE type, but I wonder if there will be more of a demand for a receiving TE in the first couple rounds than we think.

The inline blocker is Becht and Patrick is the primary receiving TE at this point.

Whiz's pedigree seems to indicate that his receiving TE has to be able to add something to the blocking scheme. If there's a "value" pick at some point in the draft, that meets the criteria, I wouldn't be surprised by the selection.

However, I just can't imagine TE before the 4th round given our needs on "D".

 

[Buckybird]

I would be OK if we picked Gresham as long as I knew that Whis was going to utilize the TE more so than previous seasons.

Amen!!!

I can only remember maybe 2 seasons in the last nearly 20 years (the great Freddie Jones) after Novacek & Awalt were shown the door that a TE has ever been productive or used in a Cardinal offense.

 

[Mitch]

I hope the Cardinals take Dennis Pitta of BYU. IMO, he's the next Dallas Clark.

 

[TJ]

Amen!!!

I can only remember maybe 2 seasons in the last nearly 20 years (the great Freddie Jones) after Novacek & Awalt were shown the door that a TE has ever been productive or used in a Cardinal offense.

Whenever I think of great Cards tight ends, I think of this guy (even though he played before I was born):

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[HoodieBets]

IMO Gronk will be the 5th TE taken behind Gresham, Graham, Hernandez, and Dickson and could end up behind dorin dickerson

 

[Buckybird]

I hope the Cardinals take Dennis Pitta of BYU. IMO, he's the next Dallas Clark.

been on board for him all along

 

[Buckybird]

Whenever I think of great Cards tight ends, I think of this guy (even though he played before I was born):

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Smith was unbelieveable, too bad you weren't fortunate enough to see him play. I will still never forget a TD he scored against the Cowpies in which he broke tackles by 5-6 guys. WOW!!!

JV Cain might have even been better in time if he didnt die in TC. Coryell would have made him a star.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

IMO Gronk will be the 5th TE taken behind Gresham, Graham, Hernandez, and Dickson and could end up behind dorin dickerson

Try again....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/03/28/bradford/1.html

The 32 first-round picks ... with a couple of asterisks.
Over the last couple of weeks, as I prepare to stick my size 14s into Dr. Z's size-55 shoes for the second time as SI's mock drafter, I've been asking NFL people about the pool of picks. Not necessarily where the players are going, but who the 32 lucky college prospects will be. I solidified over the weekend what I'm thinking (subject to change, of course), so here are the 32 players I think have the best chance to go in the first round in 24 days:

Offense (17)
Quarterbacks (3): Sam Bradford, Jimmy Clausen, Tim Tebow.
Running back (2): C.J. Spiller, Ryan Matthews.
Wide receiver (2): Dez Bryant, DeMaryius Thomas.
Tight end (2): Jermaine Gresham, Rob Gronkowski.
Center (1): Maurkice Pouncey.
Guard (1): Mike Iupati.
Tackle (6): Russell Okung, Bryan Bulaga, Anthony Davis, Trent Williams, Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell.

Defense (15)
End/Outside linebacker (5): Derrick Morgan, Jason Pierre-Paul, Brandon Graham, Sergio Kindle, Sean Weatherspoon.
Tackle (4): Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Dan Williams, Jared Odrick.
Cornerback (3): Joe Haden, Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty.
Safety (2): Eric Berry, Taylor Mays.
Inside/middle linebacker (1): Rolando McClain.


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[HoodieBets]

Try again....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/03/28/bradford/1.html

The 32 first-round picks ... with a couple of asterisks.
Over the last couple of weeks, as I prepare to stick my size 14s into Dr. Z's size-55 shoes for the second time as SI's mock drafter, I've been asking NFL people about the pool of picks. Not necessarily where the players are going, but who the 32 lucky college prospects will be. I solidified over the weekend what I'm thinking (subject to change, of course), so here are the 32 players I think have the best chance to go in the first round in 24 days:

Offense (17)
Quarterbacks (3): Sam Bradford, Jimmy Clausen, Tim Tebow.
Running back (2): C.J. Spiller, Ryan Matthews.
Wide receiver (2): Dez Bryant, DeMaryius Thomas.
Tight end (2): Jermaine Gresham, Rob Gronkowski.
Center (1): Maurkice Pouncey.
Guard (1): Mike Iupati.
Tackle (6): Russell Okung, Bryan Bulaga, Anthony Davis, Trent Williams, Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell.

Defense (15)
End/Outside linebacker (5): Derrick Morgan, Jason Pierre-Paul, Brandon Graham, Sergio Kindle, Sean Weatherspoon.
Tackle (4): Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Dan Williams, Jared Odrick.
Cornerback (3): Joe Haden, Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty.
Safety (2): Eric Berry, Taylor Mays.
Inside/middle linebacker (1): Rolando McClain.


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Ok he has his opinion and i have mine doesnt mean hes gonna be right lol, we will see come the 3rd week in april, i see him going anywhere from late 3rd to mid 4th and if available the cards dont use either of their two picks on him in the 3rd

 

[TJ]

Ok he has his opinion and i have mine doesnt mean hes gonna be right lol, we will see come the 3rd week in april, i see him going anywhere from late 3rd to mid 4th and if available the cards dont use either of their two picks on him in the 3rd

At latest 3rd and even then, that team would be getting a bargain. As long as his back holds up, he is going to be a nuisance for opposing defenses.

I, too, have not seen a mock that does not have him worse than the 2nd TE off the board.

 

[Zeno]

I just worry how the guys back will hold up blocking over the course of the season. Its not so much the pounding he will take from being tackled..blocking requires sustained use of the area where he was injured, he can likely shake off most hits.

If the NFL and our doctors clear him he'd be a good pick, TE is a need--although I ultimately question how much of a part of the Cardinals offense a TE really is.

 

[TJ]

I just worry how the guys back will hold up blocking over the course of the season. Its not so much the pounding he will take from being tackled..blocking requires sustained use of the area where he was injured, he can likely shake off most hits.

If the NFL and our doctors clear him he'd be a good pick, TE is a need--although I ultimately question how much of a part of the Cardinals offense a TE really is.

I believe the team will use more two TE sets, so it is a distinct possibility. The passing game is mainly predicated on what Leinart is comfortable with. I know at USC, his TE Dominique Byrd was not really a primary target (306 yards, 0 TDs in 2005). If a receiving threat like Gronk comes in the picture, things may change. We already have two awesome receivers. Throw a talented TE in there and defenses will be going bonkers trying to cover somebody