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Welcome, Pogo. Have you been welcomed to the board before? If not, I'll have a bucket of Arizona Ranch wings from Quaker Steak...newbies buy. If you have, I guess I'll buy LOL

Western PA, eh? I'm there as well. What part?
 

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DaisyCutter;1669285 It seems that a premire pass rush specialist is more important in schemes like the Tampa 2 than it really is in many 3-4 alignments said:
I just threw up a comment and you too hit it!! 3/4 defenses are primarily geared to stopping the run. Yeah, sacks are something we all like to see but I put them in the same category as blocked shots in BB. A consistent run stopping defense is more critical than the few sacks a team gets in a game.

A defense that can stop the run makes the pass defense that much more effective as well and will generally have the offense on the field a lot more than otherwise.
 

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I just threw up a comment and you too hit it!! 3/4 defenses are primarily geared to stopping the run. Yeah, sacks are something we all like to see but I put them in the same category as blocked shots in BB. A consistent run stopping defense is more critical than the few sacks a team gets in a game.

A defense that can stop the run makes the pass defense that much more effective as well and will generally have the offense on the field a lot more than otherwise.

Yes and no. I think that the NFL game is much more geared to the passing offense than it is to the running attack. Look at the best offenses in the NFL. The Pats and Colts can effeciently run the ball, but they really open up the run with the passing threat.

Traditionally, 3-4 defenses were used to stop the run mainly, but I think that the Blitzburgh defense and what Wade Phillips uses in Dallas are designed more around mustering a pass rush. The 3-4 that Parcells favors definitely focuses on good coverage and stopping the run, but Dallas was middling with good personnel two seasons ago under that formulation.

Teams today don't need the play-action threat to build a passing game. That's probably the biggest revolution of the West Coast offense and the Martz systems. Mike Holmgren is happiest when Matt Hasselback is passing 35+ times a game. Until the Cards find a way to contain the passing attack, they're going to struggle to make the playoffs.
 

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Yes and no. I think that the NFL game is much more geared to the passing offense than it is to the running attack. Look at the best offenses in the NFL. The Pats and Colts can effeciently run the ball, but they really open up the run with the passing threat.

Traditionally, 3-4 defenses were used to stop the run mainly, but I think that the Blitzburgh defense and what Wade Phillips uses in Dallas are designed more around mustering a pass rush. The 3-4 that Parcells favors definitely focuses on good coverage and stopping the run, but Dallas was middling with good personnel two seasons ago under that formulation.

Teams today don't need the play-action threat to build a passing game. That's probably the biggest revolution of the West Coast offense and the Martz systems. Mike Holmgren is happiest when Matt Hasselback is passing 35+ times a game. Until the Cards find a way to contain the passing attack, they're going to struggle to make the playoffs.

True. Despite all the resources and money poured into the offense, it won't outscore good offenses.
 

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True. Despite all the resources and money poured into the offense, it won't outscore good offenses.

Yup. And I think that lobo undersells the impact of a QB sack. It's a loss of down, but it also has a moral effect on the opposing offense. A sack has lasting effects on a QBs psyche; it forces rushed and bad passes throughout the whole game. If an OL allows a sack, the effect can ripple throughout the rest of the game.

Also, if the average pass play goes for 7 yards, and instead you get a sack for a loss of 5, the net impact is -12 yards. If you stuff a run play for a gain of only 2, instead of 5, the net impact is -3 yards.

QB sacks are a huge metric. The Cards had good numbers last year, but they tended to come in bunches, or not when the Cards were trying to put the game away.
 

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Welcome, Pogo. Have you been welcomed to the board before? If not, I'll have a bucket of Arizona Ranch wings from Quaker Steak...newbies buy. If you have, I guess I'll buy LOL

Western PA, eh? I'm there as well. What part?
Haha... thanks for the welcome. I'm from a small town near New Castle, though I'm currently at Grove City College, which is a bit farther north. How about you?
 

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Haha... thanks for the welcome. I'm from a small town near New Castle, though I'm currently at Grove City College, which is a bit farther north. How about you?

Wow, no kidding!? What town? I'm just outside of New Castle in Hickory Township (went to Laurel waaaaay back in the day).

If you want, you can PM (private message) me. There's a private message area up on the top right of your screen.

Man, another Cards fan in the New Castle area? Look out, Western PA! Lol
 

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