Hall of Fame Worthy ?

[Russ Smith]

Sorry Russ but Terrell Davis has HOF written all over him. That guy was as dominant a RB in his short career as any RB in history especially during that 4 year run. He had a 2,000 yard season and has two SB rings doesn't he? Hes in IMO. Maybe not first or second ballot. But IMO opinion he eventually gets in.

That's why I said 50/50 you can make a case based on his brilliance over a short period. The injury cut his career short or he was a lock HOF game. There's not alot of precedent on guys like that Gale Sayers maybe?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Randall Cunningham?! Are you guys serious? It's not the Hall of Great Starts For Players Careers.

 

[D-Dogg]

Randall Cunningham?! Are you guys serious? It's not the Hall of Great Starts For Players Careers.

http://www.slate.com/?id=2070146

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Randall Cunningham?! Are you guys serious? It's not the Hall of Great Starts For Players Careers.

I was waiting for you to get to this thread.

I am with you. I don't think Randall Cunningham should make it in. I don't think Terrell Davis should make it in.


Furthermore, I don't think Harry Carson should have gotten in.

 

[abomb]

Sorry Russ but Terrell Davis has HOF written all over him. That guy was as dominant a RB in his short career as any RB in history especially during that 4 year run. He had a 2,000 yard season and has two SB rings doesn't he? Hes in IMO. Maybe not first or second ballot. But IMO opinion he eventually gets in.

Second. All of his numbers were better than Sayers.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

There's not alot of precedent on guys like that Gale Sayers maybe?

Terrell Davis is no where near Gale Sayers.

Gale Sayers was a phenom. Once in a lifetime kinda of player.

Eventhough that stupid as heck sports writer Jay Glazer (who I hate) thinks Gale Sayers would be nothing more than a 3rd down running back in todays NFL, he is WRONG.

If Sayers plays in the modern day NFL his knee injury gets repaired and he goes on to break a WHOLE lot of records. IMHO.

Terrell Davis is a victim of injury, and it is unfortunate but because of his short career he doesn't make it in. He only really played 4 years.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/DaviTe00.htm

 

[Cheesebeef]

http://www.slate.com/?id=2070146

right, so in other words, because he was great his first five or six years in the league (and had one incredible season late in his career only to be benched because he sucked 3 games into the next season) he deserves to be in the HOF? Sorry, he ain't even in the discussion.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Second. All of his numbers were better than Sayers.

I don't know, this is a good topic of debate.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=SayerGal01

 

[Shogun]

WR:
Cris Carter
Gary Clark
Drew Pearson
Andre Reed

OL:
Russ Grimm, G
Steve Wisniewski, G

DL:
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE
Cortez Kennedy, DT

LB:
Kevin Greene
Rickey Jackson
Sam Mills
Derrick Thomas

DB:
Steve Atwater, S
LeRoy Butler, S
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB

ST:
Ray Guy, P

Coaches:
Don Coryell
Tom Flores
Jimmy Johnson

 

[Russ Smith]

Terrell Davis is no where near Gale Sayers.

Gale Sayers was a phenom. Once in a lifetime kinda of player.

Eventhough that stupid as heck sports writer Jay Glazer (who I hate) thinks Gale Sayers would be nothing more than a 3rd down running back in todays NFL, he is WRONG.

If Sayers plays in the modern day NFL his knee injury gets repaired and he goes on to break a WHOLE lot of records. IMHO.

Terrell Davis is a victim of injury, and it is unfortunate but because of his short career he doesn't make it in. He only really played 4 years.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/DaviTe00.htm

It's very hard to compare across eras, Sayers had a higher YPC, Davis had a lot more TD's, Sayers basically played one more full year than Davis did and never came close to the amount of carries Davis had.

I think Davis gets in, I'm 50/50 if he never gets hurt it's a no brainer but because his career was so short I think there are people who won't vote for him.

I do think the last several years have gone a long way to help him. At first when Denver kept getting a new RB every year having big numbers it hurt Davis people said see he wasn't that great it was the system. But Shanahan keeps replacing guys every year specifically because they are NOT as good as Davis was and I think people are now realizing that 1200-1500 yard seasons were a bit different than Davis going over 1700 and 2000 in consecutive years. Portis was the best back they've had since Davis and even he wasn't able to get to those levels.

 

[Shane]

It's a lock, then. Within 3 years Cunningham has his bust in Canton.

Actually I was thinking quite the opposite base on your opinion.

 

[Shane]

right, so in other words, because he was great his first five or six years in the league (and had one incredible season late in his career only to be benched because he sucked 3 games into the next season) he deserves to be in the HOF? Sorry, he ain't even in the discussion.

Thank you!

 

[Shane]

WR:
Cris Carter
Gary Clark
Drew Pearson
Andre Reed

OL:
Russ Grimm, G
Steve Wisniewski, G

DL:
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE
Cortez Kennedy, DT

LB:
Kevin Greene
Rickey Jackson
Sam Mills
Derrick Thomas

DB:
Steve Atwater, S
LeRoy Butler, S
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB

ST:
Ray Guy, P

Coaches:
Don Coryell
Tom Flores
Jimmy Johnson

I say no on Lester Hayes. If it wasnt for stickem that guy would have had about 5 ints. I met him at a K-mart one year and he even admitte d that he would have dropped pretty near everything if it werent for that stuff.

Jimmy Johnson?? No Way!

 

[Pariah]

Actually I was thinking quite the opposite base on your opinion.

I know. That's how I know I'm right.

 

[Pariah]

I met him at a K-mart one year and he even admitte dthat he would have dropped pretty near everything if it werent fo rthat stuff.

So, you're saying he was dropping hints?

How long did he stick around to tell you these stories?

 

[Shane]

So, you're saying he was dropping hints?

How long did he stick around to tell you these stories?

Dropping hints? I dunno. Just know he admitted that he couldnt catch very well when I asked him about the stickem.

He was there at a table signing stuff for charity. I talked to him for about 10 minutes and got two autographs on 8x10's. Gave them to friends on teh dept. who were Raider fans. I got 2 for like 30.00 he was very nice. You should have seen his fingers. They were jacked up.

Actually what was even cooler was that he would let you hold and see his SB ring. That was pretty awesome.

 

[D-Dogg]

Sayers basically played one more full year than Davis did and never came close to the amount of carries Davis had.

Sayers played 68 reg season games. Davis played 80 reg season.


Sayers also returned kicks and punts. He averaged 6.2 YPC one year. His four games after the knee injury hurt his YPC terribly, and even then he's still a career 5 YPC.

 

[Russ Smith]

I say no on Lester Hayes. If it wasnt for stickem that guy would have had about 5 ints. I met him at a K-mart one year and he even admitte d that he would have dropped pretty near everything if it werent for that stuff.

Jimmy Johnson?? No Way!

I'd eliminate Atwater because of the way SF torched him in that one Super Bowl. Great hitter at the LOS but I never looked at him the same way after the Super bowl game he was completely embarassed in coverage the whole game.

In fact I remember reading after the game that essentially the entire 49er gameplan was built around scheming to get him in coverage so they could pick on him because of what they'd seen on film.

 

[Russ Smith]

Sayers played 68 reg season games. Davis played 80 reg season.


Sayers also returned kicks and punts. He averaged 6.2 YPC one year. His four games after the knee injury hurt his YPC terribly, and even then he's still a career 5 YPC.

Right but by full seasons I was mainly referring to fulltime RB, Sayers never had 250 carries let alone 300, he only topped 1000 yards twice. It was a different era for his era he was clearly a HOF guy, in today's football those same numbers won't even get you mentioned, I think if he were in today's game he'd be a great player still mind you just talking purely about the numbers.

I think Sayers clearly deserved to get in, he was just the first guy who came to mind to compare to davis' situation short career.

 

[Shane]

Sayers played 68 reg season games. Davis played 80 reg season.


Sayers also returned kicks and punts. He averaged 6.2 YPC one year. His four games after the knee injury hurt his YPC terribly, and even then he's still a career 5 YPC.

You take TD stats before injury and they wer epretty incredible too. 4.7 YPC is pretty eye popping. Still not 5.0 though.

I still think TD gets in eventually. He was to dominant and the SB's help alot. If Lynn Swann can get in TD certainly should.

 

[Pariah]

Dropping hints? I dunno. Just know he admitted that he couldnt catch very well when I asked him about the stickem.

He was there at a table signing stuff for charity. I talked to him for about 10 minutes and got two autographs on 8x10's signed.

"Dropping" (as in dropping ball without stick um)

"Stick" (stick um play)

...puns.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

You take TD stats before injury and they wer epretty incredible too. 4.7 YPC is pretty eye popping. Still not 5.0 though.

I still think TD gets in eventually. He was to dominant and the SB's help alot. If Lynn Swann can get in TD certainly should.

This board should get money from TD to be his PR man.

The guys are making a good case for TD. I think 50/50 is a good bet.

 

[Shane]

"Dropping" (as in dropping ball without stick um)

"Stick" (stick um play)

...puns.

Got ya. As you know Im a little slow. Im a lot dumber than most posters. because you know Im usually wrong a whole lot more than others too.

 

[Shane]

This board should get money from TD to be his PR man.

The guys are making a good case for TD. I think 50/50 is a good bet.

The guy was just a beast. I loved watching him run. I thought all the Rushing records were in BIG trouble prior to his injury.

 

[CardLogic]

Comparing Terrell Davis to Gale Sayers doesn't wash.

Davis was a very good RB, on an excellent rushing team. Sayers was Magic!