Harbaugh and 49ers both atop each others wish list apparently

[Arizona's Finest]

Not good for us. Based on these two reports:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5992094

http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_17012757?nclick_check=1

 

[lobo]

Not good for us. Based on these two reports:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5992094

http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_17012757?nclick_check=1

Who made him the next Einstein???? Just remember you can count on one hand over the years how many guys came straight out of college and became top gun HC's....Bobby Petrino was the last genius I can remember. Harbaugh is a hothead and lets see how that plays out in the NFL from a guy without a ring on his finger.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Hard to imagine why Harbaugh wouldn't take this job... They're talking about giving him 100% control of player personnel, along with a Queen Mary boat-load of $$... He loves the Bay Area. I'd be surprised if this marriage isn't consumated.

And - as I've said before, the 9ers are far better prepared to take the lead in the West vs the Cards. Even if they don't make it happen with Harbaugh, I don't see the Cards making up ground on the 9ers next season, any maybe for many seasons. But, add in a guy like Harbaugh, and we are officially toast...

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Who made him the next Einstein???? Just remember you can count on one hand over the years how many guys came straight out of college and became top gun HC's....Bobby Petrino was the last genius I can remember. Harbaugh is a hothead and lets see how that plays out in the NFL from a guy without a ring on his finger.

From everything I have followed in his career, he is a better coach then his brother who is a pretty damn successful NFL head coach. That and they way his players played at Stanford this year - well that was the best coached football team I might have ever seen based on the talent on hand and how aggressive, physical, smart and fundamental they were. Those players were like a machine all year long. Quick name me someone on Stanford other then Luck or Marecic.

Not to mention he is the hottest candidate on the market, desired by multiple teams and whether that perception is valid or not, we are going to spend the offseason hearing about how we are falling further and further behind our biggest rivals.

If he goes to the 49ers my hope is he is the next Nick Saban. I also thought Saban was tailor made for the NFL but turns out he is a college guy. I am hoping Jim finds out the same if he takes the job.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Who made him the next Einstein???? Just remember you can count on one hand over the years how many guys came straight out of college and became top gun HC's....Bobby Petrino was the last genius I can remember. Harbaugh is a hothead and lets see how that plays out in the NFL from a guy without a ring on his finger.

Who knows, maybe he's the next Jimmie Johnson?

If Harbaugh does go the the Niners, I'm hoping he's the next Mike Singletary.

 

[SuperSpck]

Any college coach has to prove it now.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Hell, the 9ers have owned the Cards with Singletary as coach so this doesn't bother me too much. The Cards just have to get better, that's all

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Hell, the 9ers have owned the Cards with Singletary as coach so this doesn't bother me too much. The Cards just have to get better, that's all

I know, right?

We've lost 4 straight to those knuckleheads...it's getting old now.

 

[DoTheDew]

He might be a good pro coach. I think he will. But it won't matter until that team finds a QB.

 

[Buckybird]

Just like I said a few days earlier Harbaugh will be the Niners coach & will do everything possible to trade for Luck.

 

[joeshmo]

Every year there is always the next hot college coach a few NFL GM's want to talk to. Happens every year, and I cant even think of one that actually made the transition their first go at it over the last 20-30 years. I am probably missing a least one right?

And before anyone brings up Jimmy Johnson lets remember that the guy was a 25 year college coach veteran who went 1-15 his first year before Minnesota decided to jump start his next 4 years with the Cowboys by giving them 5 players and 6 high draft picks for one player Hershel Walker.

Could he finally be the next big thing, sure he can. But he hasn't been coaching football since 1984 like his brother including 10 years with a great Eagles organization under great coaches, it took him 3 years just to get Stanford to a winning record and that didn't happen until he hit gold with Andrew Luck.

I say let the Niners have him for the stupid price of 7-8 mill for a coach who doesn't have nearly the resume as 99% of the other coaches in the NFL and lets see what happens.

 

[Renz]

Just like I said a few days earlier Harbaugh will be the Niners coach & will do everything possible to trade for Luck.

If Luck comes out there's no way SF trades up to #1. You think Carolina will pass on Luck and go into next season with Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen again? It would be a PR nightmare. Their fans would tear down the stadium.

 

[conraddobler]

Anything can happen, trees can fall out of the sky on a sunny day, he could be a failure right out of the gate.

Thing is I highly doubt it.

The main thing he has over almost any other college coach in the nation is that he played QB in the NFL for over 14 season, many as a starter, including winning some playoff games.

That and winning at Stanford that seals it for me, I'm sold.

He's from a football family, he knows the game, intimately, he knows the league, he knows all the teams, he played against a lot of them in the semi modern era and he had mutiple stays at teams.

You almost never see guys like him go into coaching anymore, they're so loaded by the end of their career they don't care enough anymore, he's pretty unique.

 

[football karma]

brand new coach to the NFL AND 100% player personnel?

Not a recipe for success.

He would do well to be in a situation like his brother: strong FO to back him up, do the heavy lifting and allow the coach to concentrate on the game.

the track record on guys with that much power isnt a good one, much less a brand new NFL head coach.

Instead, he is going to be pulled in a 100 different directions.

Finally -- taking the 49ers job over one like Denver makes me question just how smart he is.

 

[conraddobler]

brand new coach to the NFL AND 100% player personnel?

Not a recipe for success.

He would do well to be in a situation like his brother: strong FO to back him up, do the heavy lifting and allow the coach to concentrate on the game.

the track record on guys with that much power isnt a good one, much less a brand new NFL head coach.

Instead, he is going to be pulled in a 100 different directions.

Finally -- taking the 49ers job over one like Denver makes me question just how smart he is.

I would tend to agree that most of the time it's a horrible idea to coach and get anywhere near total control of player personell.

It depends on how it's structured, if he has someone negotiate the actual contracts and just has to say yea or nay on who he wants instead of getting into the actual negotiations then I wouldn't think that much about it.

He's very smart to go where he has that, if he really can handle it.

I don't think he'll be designing and building the contracts, and again it really does matter to certain folks.

 

[Buckybird]

If Luck comes out there's no way SF trades up to #1. You think Carolina will pass on Luck and go into next season with Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen again? It would be a PR nightmare. Their fans would tear down the stadium.

Renz, what part of do everything possible didn't you understand? I never said they will get him...but if Harbaugh goes to SF, you really don't think he will do every he possibly can to aquire him? Harbaugh has stated he's the best QB he has ever seen & the Niners need one to be a legit winner.

 

[Shane]

Every year there is always the next hot college coach a few NFL GM's want to talk to. Happens every year, and I cant even think of one that actually made the transition their first go at it over the last 20-30 years. I am probably missing a least one right?

And before anyone brings up Jimmy Johnson lets remember that the guy was a 25 year college coach veteran who went 1-15 his first year before Minnesota decided to jump start his next 4 years with the Cowboys by giving them 5 players and 6 high draft picks for one player Hershel Walker.

Could he finally be the next big thing, sure he can. But he hasn't been coaching football since 1984 like his brother including 10 years with a great Eagles organization under great coaches, it took him 3 years just to get Stanford to a winning record and that didn't happen until he hit gold with Andrew Luck
I say let the Niners have him for the stupid price of 7-8 mill for a coach who doesn't have nearly the resume as 99% of the other coaches in the NFL and lets see what happens.

Voice of reason!

 

[red desert]

Every year there is always the next hot college coach a few NFL GM's want to talk to. Happens every year, and I cant even think of one that actually made the transition their first go at it over the last 20-30 years. I am probably missing a least one right?

And before anyone brings up Jimmy Johnson lets remember that the guy was a 25 year college coach veteran who went 1-15 his first year before Minnesota decided to jump start his next 4 years with the Cowboys by giving them 5 players and 6 high draft picks for one player Hershel Walker.

Could he finally be the next big thing, sure he can. But he hasn't been coaching football since 1984 like his brother including 10 years with a great Eagles organization under great coaches, it took him 3 years just to get Stanford to a winning record and that didn't happen until he hit gold with Andrew Luck.

I say let the Niners have him for the stupid price of 7-8 mill for a coach who doesn't have nearly the resume as 99% of the other coaches in the NFL and lets see what happens.

Dude may or may not be the real deal, but here's my take:

- San Fran, for all its current shortcomings as an organization, is still a heck of lot better than Arizona. It just is.

- Should they sign Harbaugh, they actually have the talent already on the roster where they could afford to trade their entire draft to Carolina for the rights to draft the incomparable Andrew Luck and have success next year. Don't think that can't happen. Think about how good SF would be in the coming decade if this occurred?

- More importantly, they probably have the moxie to make that sort of move. I am certain the Cardinals organization doesn't. Instead, we are talking about Bulger? How many of you think that's NOT going to happen? Scary, huh?

- Much of the hate that is tossed out on this board at other organizations and players should really be tossed out at the Cardinals organization

but that's just me. I'm just a hater.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Could he finally be the next big thing, sure he can. But he hasn't been coaching football since 1984 like his brother including 10 years with a great Eagles organization under great coaches, it took him 3 years just to get Stanford to a winning record and that didn't happen until he hit gold with Andrew Luck.

I say let the Niners have him for the stupid price of 7-8 mill for a coach who doesn't have nearly the resume as 99% of the other coaches in the NFL and lets see what happens.

Comon now, Harbaugh took Stanfrom from an 1-11 season before he took over, 4 years later they were 11-1. STANFORD.

He may not have a ton of coaching experience and may not hit things off right away in San Fran. However, this is still the NFC West, and the 49ers do have some talent. Im sure Harbaugh will make a lot of personnel changes if he lands the job, but this is a great fit for both sides.

I think Harbaugh can at least be a solid coach, with a good chance to be very good. This isnt your typical college coach, who uses gimmicks and trickery to make talent look better and to win games. He runs a direct version of what he ran in the NFL.

Say what you want about the guy, but lets not act like he is a good for nothing college coach who is going to look like Spurrier or Saban in the NFL. He is completely different than any college coach in recent memory entering the NFL.

 

[desertdawg]

Harbaugh is going to be a good coach, IMO. If the 9ers get him and Luck, we have no choice but to go Newton, IMO. No way we can compete with Bradford and Luck the next decade unless we gotta young bad ass too. IMO

 

[oaken1]

so,...if it is already all over the news that he wants the job,....and the team wants him,.......which black coach do ya think will take the free weekend trip to San Francisco so they can satisfy the rooney rule?

 

[red desert]

Harbaugh is going to be a good coach, IMO. If the 9ers get him and Luck, we have no choice but to go Newton, IMO. No way we can compete with Bradford and Luck the next decade unless we gotta young bad ass too. IMO

Good post. I agree wholeheartedly. I'm so hoping we draft Newton.

 

[O]

so,...if it is already all over the news that he wants the job,....and the team wants him,.......which black coach do ya think will take the free weekend trip to San Francisco so they can satisfy the rooney rule?

Already done, Hue Jackson from the Raiders and all he had to do is cross the Bay Bridge.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Dude may or may not be the real deal, but here's my take:

- San Fran, for all its current shortcomings as an organization, is still a heck of lot better than Arizona. It just is.

- Should they sign Harbaugh, they actually have the talent already on the roster where they could afford to trade their entire draft to Carolina for the rights to draft the incomparable Andrew Luck and have success next year. Don't think that can't happen. Think about how good SF would be in the coming decade if this occurred?

- More importantly, they probably have the moxie to make that sort of move. I am certain the Cardinals organization doesn't. Instead, we are talking about Bulger? How many of you think that's NOT going to happen? Scary, huh?

- Much of the hate that is tossed out on this board at other organizations and players should really be tossed out at the Cardinals organization

but that's just me. I'm just a hater.

I know your just "keeping it real" but honest question.

Why are you even a fan of this team? Why are you on this board posting?

If you honestly feel that way, I don't get why you put up with it and just don't leave and go pick up reading novels or croquet or something.

I don't say that with a trace of snarkiness. I just don't see what kind of pleasure you derive from following this team if you feel that way.

 

[O]

AdamSchefter
RT @mortreport: Filed to ESPN: Dolphins owner Steve Ross has traveled west to make an urgent pitch to Jim Harbaugh to become their next HC.