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Thanks Harry!

I was curious, what is your opinion on the James signing? Obviously he will have a big impact.
 

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Certainly the James signing was a statement. I liked him coming out of Miami, but he did tend to be an up and down player. He really benefitted from the Indy passing game and also playing behind an experienced, stable line. He's not as fast as you might think. However, he has good power, nice balance and he can catch the ball in stride. He is a big upgrade, but if they don't fix the line he may struggle to get to 1000 yards. It will be interesting to see how long he stays positive, if the line can't open holes.
 

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Harry said:
Certainly the James signing was a statement. I liked him coming out of Miami, but he did tend to be an up and down player. He really benefitted from the Indy passing game and also playing behind an experienced, stable line. He's not as fast as you might think. However, he has good power, nice balance and he can catch the ball in stride. He is a big upgrade, but if they don't fix the line he may struggle to get to 1000 yards. It will be interesting to see how long he stays positive, if the line can't open holes.

An aging Emmitt gained almost 1000 yards behind an argueably inferior line (and far worse coaching), along with an absent Q for half the season. The passing game two years ago was not close to what we saw last year. I guess I don't understand why a superior talent like James will struggle as badly as you suggest. Your track record for predictions is better than mine, but I hope you are wrong on this one.
 

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I hope that Vernon Davis drops to the Cardinals at ten and they select him.

How would this sound at the skill positions on Offense:

Boldin
Vernon Davis
Warner
Edge
Fitzgerald

They would be the Fantastic Five!
 

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jefftheshark said:
An aging Emmitt gained almost 1000 yards behind an argueably inferior line (and far worse coaching), along with an absent Q for half the season. The passing game two years ago was not close to what we saw last year. I guess I don't understand why a superior talent like James will struggle as badly as you suggest. Your track record for predictions is better than mine, but I hope you are wrong on this one.

I also was thinking along these lines. Emmit, at 35, got over 900 yards behind a line and offense that was, for all intents and purposes, far worse than the offense that will be fielded this year.
 

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Let's finish with the James thing. I was surprised to see some of you kept my email address. I am not opposed to the signing. It strikes me as if some was putting two of Michelin's best tires on the rear of your car and having to bald, retreaded tires on the front. It's hard to envision a smooth ride, but it would likely be an improvement. It's not solving the whole problem until they fix the line and I don't see that happening exclusively through the draft. As to the Smith comparison, Smith was a different type of runner who could be more effective with small openings. Smith used whatever blocks he had better than any back I ever saw. Even at this advanced age, he hit the hole quickly.

As to the QBs in the draft. First, I should point out that I would not take either with the first round pick, unless everyone else I liked was gone. If I had to take one, I'd take Cutler. He will be more productive sooner and his "bust factor" is lower. Young is a far better athlete, but what has that gotten Michael Vick.
 

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Harry said:
Let's finish with the James thing. I was surprised to see some of you kept my email address. I am not opposed to the signing. It strikes me as if some was putting two of Michelin's best tires on the rear of your car and having to bald, retreaded tires on the front. It's hard to envision a smooth ride, but it would likely be an improvement. It's not solving the whole problem until they fix the line and I don't see that happening exclusively through the draft. As to the Smith comparison, Smith was a different type of runner who could be more effective with small openings. Smith used whatever blocks he had better than any back I ever saw. Even at this advanced age, he hit the hole quickly.

As to the QBs in the draft. First, I should point out that I would not take either with the first round pick, unless everyone else I liked was gone. If I had to take one, I'd take Cutler. He will be more productive sooner and his "bust factor" is lower. Young is a far better athlete, but what has that gotten Michael Vick.

I couldn't agree more Harry. They need to fix the o-line to get the offense performing on all cylinders. James needs some holes to run through. The only QB that I want in the first round is Leinart. I would rather take Whitehurst in the third round. I was hoping that we would sign somebody like Kitna or maybe bring Joey Harrington here. Right now if Warner was to get hurt we have nobody that can replace him and win for us. From what I have seen of Navarre so far I can't see us winning with him.
 

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Your stand on Vernon Davis wasnt very supportive due to the fact you believe other TE will be available.
I must stop you there and say if the Cards staff believe without hesistation this guy would make an immediate impact.
Then take a moment, Look at the teams with a star TE. How their offense if balanced is nearly impossible to stop. IF the Cardinals did add a premiere not just ok TE. With the offensive fire power we have might we seem unstoppable?
(of course the o-line would at least have to be adequate)

Vince Young and Jay Cutler - I agree is risky, but if the players you go into the draft wanting are not there. Both have intangibles the current Cards team needs.
1. Young - if that O-line isnt any better, assume he can elude better than any QB in NCAA history.
2. Cutler - technically is superceeding expectations of Matt L. in the combine. If it werent for the Leinhart name and program, Cutler would be picked above him.

This is one of the deepest drafts Ive seen in a long time and its evident by quality players projected to fall to lower first round
 

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I really like Davis, but how many passes can the Cards throw? Figure the 3 wideouts to approach 2500-3000 plus yards on their own, then you've got James as a huge catch and run threat out of the backfield.

I do like Davis, but he wouldn't be my first choice simply because a great tight end is not needed for this to be an exceptionally strong offense.
 

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Harry said:
Let's finish with the James thing. I was surprised to see some of you kept my email address. I am not opposed to the signing. It strikes me as if some was putting two of Michelin's best tires on the rear of your car and having to bald, retreaded tires on the front. It's hard to envision a smooth ride, but it would likely be an improvement. It's not solving the whole problem until they fix the line and I don't see that happening exclusively through the draft. As to the Smith comparison, Smith was a different type of runner who could be more effective with small openings. Smith used whatever blocks he had better than any back I ever saw. Even at this advanced age, he hit the hole quickly.

As to the QBs in the draft. First, I should point out that I would not take either with the first round pick, unless everyone else I liked was gone. If I had to take one, I'd take Cutler. He will be more productive sooner and his "bust factor" is lower. Young is a far better athlete, but what has that gotten Michael Vick.

We'll learn more about Young at his pro-day. That will determine where he'll go. Just his size though, figures he'll be a much better passer than Vick who showed some accuracy improvement last season, IMO.
 

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Harry said:
I really like Davis, but how many passes can the Cards throw? Figure the 3 wideouts to approach 2500-3000 plus yards on their own, then you've got James as a huge catch and run threat out of the backfield.

I do like Davis, but he wouldn't be my first choice simply because a great tight end is not needed for this to be an exceptionally strong offense.

That's why I'm not a big Davis advocate in the 1st even if he's there. I'm leaning Justice right now. One of these 10 will be there outside of Davis.

- Ferguson, Bush, Leinart, Cutler, Williams, Hawk, Ngata, Young, Justice, Huff.

I don't think the OT is a bad call there - depending. And remember a desision has to be made with LD this offseason. They could be thinking along the same lines.
 
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I like Leinart, but he's not Green's type. He doesn't have the big arm like Palmer did. Young would have to change his game so much, I just think he's too big a gamble. Finally, I know some services have Justice this highly or nearly so, but it's too high. I'm okay with taking your player early rather than losing him, but only if he is clear and a way the choice. I don't see that in Justice. I'd rather trade up with NO and take Ferguson if the need is that critical.
 

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I'd be happy with the best OL available at #10. Unless a player like Hawk drops. You can't pass up a player like that.

Run the damn ball. For once!
 
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