Heap out at minny, doucet probable?

[titan]

when did this happen? maybe i missed this on here..

 

[Cheesebeef]

old, injury prone TE is injured already? color me shocked.

 

[kerouac9]

Maybe Andre Roberts will get a look this week.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Maybe Andre Roberts will get a look this week.

he doesn't need a look. just ask Darren Urban who just wrote a full article about how much Roberts is actually doing out on the field without catching any passes!

 

[titan]

who will take heaps place?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

he doesn't need a look. just ask Darren Urban who just wrote a full article about how much Roberts is actually doing out on the field without catching any passes!

Hey, give him a break...it's not like he has another guy on the opposite side demanding double teams....oh well

 

[PJ1]

Hopefully Housler gets more playing time. Really like this guy.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Housler for a TE is a athletic freak, and it just might be one of those games where he could take the Vikings by surprise. Very good hands and extremely fast for a TE. I like that Heap is on the team because Housler is and he gets to learn from one of the best. Now the Doucet thing has me furious. Early could be such a playmaker if he would just stay freaking healthy

 

[Cheesebeef]

Hopefully Housler gets more playing time. Really like this guy.

yeah, I hope this is a blessing in disguise with Heap. this offense DESPERATELY needs another dynamic force in the passing game as Heap, King, Roberts and Doucet are really just "guys" at this point. Not bad by any stretch (save Andre "The Invisible Man" Roberts"), but none scare the opposing offense. Hopefully Housler at some point will be that guy who can get mismatches and use his speed to open up the passing game.

that being said, he's a rookie and even if he does produce, I'm sure will go back to old slow veterans who make little to no impact because that's apparently his type of player!

 

[Jetstream Green]

I'm hoping for one of those rare performances Cheese like Boldin had in his first game. Yes, its a stretch and would be a freaking miracle, but Housler is one of those guys that I think could go under the radar in the game and bust out if Kolb has some faith in him. Maybe a lot of wishful thinking on my part, but this team needs to find a threat opposite of Fitzgerald. Heap is a threat when in but a minimal one because teams say to themselves that though he will make some plays, he won't make enough to be a game changer like Fitz. Housler, unlike Heap, is young with the speed to get more than a chain moving catch and be consider a real threat

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm hoping for one of those rare performances Cheese like Boldin had in his first game.

that would be nice, but it would mean that a) Housler's really got those tools (I hope) and b) that Kolb actually had time to look downfield and c) that Kolb actually takes his eyes off Fitz every once in a while. One or two of those scenarios? Maybe. All three... consider me dubious.

Man, I'm down on this team. Stuffing three consecutive **** sandwhiches down our throat has left a bad taste in my mouth and I'm expecting the biggest pile come Sunday courtesy one of the worst teams in the league.

Yes, its a stretch and would be a freaking miracle, but Housler is one of those guys that I think could go under the radar in the game and bust out if Kolb has some faith in him. Maybe a lot of wishful thinking on my part, but this team needs to find a threat opposite of Fitzgerald. Heap is a threat when in but a minimal one because teams say to themselves that though he will make some plays, he won't make enough to be a game changer like Fitz. Housler, unlike Heap, is young with the speed to get more than a chain moving catch and be consider a real threat

Heap's just doesn't scare defenses. We need another somewhat dynamic player in the receiving game. hopefully Housler can be that guy at some point.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm hoping for one of those rare performances Cheese like Boldin had in his first game. Yes, its a stretch and would be a freaking miracle, but Housler is one of those guys that I think could go under the radar in the game and bust out if Kolb has some faith in him. Maybe a lot of wishful thinking on my part, but this team needs to find a threat opposite of Fitzgerald. Heap is a threat when in but a minimal one because teams say to themselves that though he will make some plays, he won't make enough to be a game changer like Fitz. Housler, unlike Heap, is young with the speed to get more than a chain moving catch and be consider a real threat

Yes, with formerly Greg Olsen and currently Brandon Pettigrew and Jermichael Finley in their division, the Minnesota Vikings will likely be taken completely by surprise by an athletic receiving tight end.



I'm not as down on the team as Cheesy is (and he's really going after Urban in a way that I think is probably unfair), but I don't expect a win on the road for quite some time. The Cards aren't built to come back from two-score deficits, and they haven't faced one yet. It'll be really interesting to see how this team responds when they go down by 10.

 

[40yearfan]

Yes, with formerly Greg Olsen and currently Brandon Pettigrew and Jermichael Finley in their division, the Minnesota Vikings will likely be taken completely by surprise by an athletic receiving tight end.



I'm not as down on the team as Cheesy is (and he's really going after Urban in a way that I think is probably unfair), but I don't expect a win on the road for quite some time. The Cards aren't built to come back from two-score deficits, and they haven't faced one yet. It'll be really interesting to see how this team responds when they go down by 10[/URL].

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ6rPxQcGpk

 

[Jetstream Green]

"Yes, with formerly Greg Olsen and currently Brandon Pettigrew and Jermichael Finley in their division, the Minnesota Vikings will likely be taken completely by surprise by an athletic receiving tight end."- yup, that is why the Vikings are world beaters in their division K9, they know how to shut down those TEs like no one else

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm not as down on the team as Cheesy is (and he's really going after Urban in a way that I think is probably unfair),

dude was a solid beat writer who now writes propaganda. dude deserves every bit of criticism thrown his way when he upchucks an article about how much impact our #2 WR is making without catching the ball.

 

[kerouac9]

"Yes, with formerly Greg Olsen and currently Brandon Pettigrew and Jermichael Finley in their division, the Minnesota Vikings will likely be taken completely by surprise by an athletic receiving tight end."- yup, that is why the Vikings are world beaters in their division K9, they know how to shut down those TEs like no one else

You're the one who asserted that the Cards could "sneak up on them" with an athletic TE. Of course, the Minnesota Vikings won the NFC North just two years ago.

dude was a solid beat writer who now writes propaganda. dude deserves every bit of criticism thrown his way when he upchucks an article about how much impact our #2 WR is making without catching the ball.

I agree with all of that, but at the same time the guy needs to make a living and the paper that he used to work at no longer exists. Darren has a little more space for his own points of view in the "columns" that carry his picture. Do you absolutely believe 100% in every line of dialogue that comes across on NR? Unfortunately for Darren, his name's on every article on AZCardinals.com, but he doesn't have editorial control over any of it.

Urban definitely is the Voice of Sauron, but I'm not going to begrudge the guy a paycheck or give him grief for fulfilling his assignments.

 

[TJ]

You're the one who asserted that the Cards could "sneak up on them" with an athletic TE. Of course, the Minnesota Vikings won the NFC North just two years ago.

Right. And we won our division two years ago as well. What's your point? Means nothing in a league with so much parity.

Minny has gone from the top to the bottom quickly. The Favre drama was part of their demise. Currently, they are 0-4 and aren't any better than us. They too have lost each of their games by 7 or less points. The difference is we actually have a win under our belt.

I agree that a rookie TE is not going to "sneak up" on them, but Housler can still be productive.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I agree with all of that, but at the same time the guy needs to make a living and the paper that he used to work at no longer exists. Darren has a little more space for his own points of view in the "columns" that carry his picture. Do you absolutely believe 100% in every line of dialogue that comes across on NR?

lol... i won't say much here, but i can assure you, I'm pretty passionate about every line i personally write on that show... sometimes to my detriment!

Unfortunately for Darren, his name's on every article on AZCardinals.com, but he doesn't have editorial control over any of it.

that's fine and all... but that Andre Roberts article was just over the top, the proverbial straw that broke this camel's back when I read it. I mean... really, he's got nothing else to write about than some completely preposterous article about how much Andre Roberts is producing without producing many catches.

Urban definitely is the Voice of Sauron, but I'm not going to begrudge the guy a paycheck or give him grief for fulfilling his assignments.

I only begrudge him when he tries shoveling **** down our throat and that Roberts article was just out of this world ridiculous.

 

[kerouac9]

lol... i won't say much here, but i can assure you, I'm pretty passionate about every line i personally write on that show... sometimes to my detriment!



that's fine and all... but that Andre Roberts article was just over the top, the proverbial straw that broke this camel's back when I read it. I mean... really, he's got nothing else to write about than some completely preposterous article about how much Andre Roberts is producing without producing many catches.



I only begrudge him when he tries shoveling **** down our throat and that Roberts article was just out of this world ridiculous.

All of that is perfectly fair. I believe you when you say that you stand up for every line of dialogue that you write, but I assume that you're names on a list of writing credits for every episode (like the writing staff, or whatever). I think about Darren's work the same way. Darren or his editor sees that people here are complaining about Schofield/Porter, Stewart Bradley, Andre Roberts, etc., and so there's a feeling that if we're writing about it, more people are thinking about it. So Urban's forced to write an article.

I posted a link a while back to how much everyone on the offense believed in Max Hall when he was named the starter. I think that Darren's really, really careful not to editorialize and put in his opinions on that, rather than to introduce quotes that he doesn't necessary swallow.

As I said, consider those articles where his picture is at or near the top as closer to the Voice of Darren instead of the Voice of Sauron. Darren--especially if you e-mail him--is really good about saying what he thinks to the extent that he can.

Sportswriters aren't necessarily "fans", IMO. They're mostly worried about the next story they're going to have to write, and the market in AZ is limited enough that there isn't a guy who's not going to be afraid of being frozen out by Whis or Kolb in these press gaggles (with Jim O and a KTAR rep right there, the reporters are probably outnumbered by people who are drawing paychecks from the Cards 90% of the time, anyhow). We'd love to have an answer to these more difficult questions, but these guys can't ask those questions until it's incredibly obvious.

When Whis says, "we have a system and we know it works," the reporters have their quote for the story, and unless Bickley is there for some reason they're going to use that in the story that they have planned 70%, anyway.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I agree with Cheese.
Andre Roberts is really good at blocking that 8th guy in the box so he's valueable . I guess the Cards are the only team that drafts skill position players to be blockers. Wells wasn't a good pass blocker so he sits, Roberts is a good blocker so he plays. Here's an idea, how about playing a RB that's good at running the ball(finally doing that with Wells) and a WR that gets open and catches the ball.

 

[Duckjake]

Right. And we won our division two years ago as well. What's your point? Means nothing in a league with so much parity.

Minny has gone from the top to the bottom quickly. The Favre drama was part of their demise. Currently, they are 0-4 and aren't any better than us. They too have lost each of their games by 7 or less points. The difference is we actually have a win under our belt.

I agree that a rookie TE is not going to "sneak up" on them, but Housler can still be productive.

Not only did we win the Division but we kicked the crud out of those same Vikings.

Maybe the Cards can surprise the Vikings with Housler because Arizona hasn't exactly been the most ardent user of TE's in the past. Probably too much film out now on the TE production this season but we can hope.

 

[az1965]

Heap out, Beanie in