Hollywood image isn't Leinart

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May. 16, 2006 12:00 AM


SANTA ANA, Calif.

There are no signs of Hollywood in the Leinart neighborhood.

No signs of Paris, either.




There are just modest homes bunched inside a middle-age suburb, a place where modest people work and live and tend to their gardens.

Here, they don't worry about photographers hiding behind trees.

"Dude, I remember when I was a kid and all the kids from the neighborhood . . . " Matt Leinart said, looking wistfully down the street.

But like his sense of innocence, the sentence just dies.

At the tender age of 23, Leinart has already absorbed some rough hits and tough lessons. He has grown weary of the media, leery of people outside his small circle of trust. The chip on his shoulder is great news for his new employer, the Arizona Cardinals.

"I won 37 of 39 college games, and suddenly, I'm too Hollywood? That my arm strength is a negative? I mean, what's the deal? What happened here?" Leinart said. "I'm so tired of the drama. The whole thing has just brought me down."

And it hurts his mother something fierce.

"We're a family, a middle-class family," his mother, Linda, said. "We're totally unprepared for this world."






Deconstruct Matt Leinart all you want. Dissect his arm strength and his laid-back demeanor. Fixate on his relationship with a hotel heiress. Ultimately, the story always comes down to money.

After winning the Heisman Trophy and a national championship as a junior at Southern California, it was widely assumed that Leinart would be the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft.

Except he decided to stay in school because he was already happy . . . because he was hurting physically and his body just didn't feel ready for the NFL . . . because chasing money wasn't the game he was playing in the first place.

While Leinart has yet to sign a contract with the Cardinals, here's a rough idea of the losses involved:

The No. 1 pick in the 2005 draft (quarterback Alex Smith) received a $24 million signing bonus. The No. 10 pick (wide receiver Mike Williams) received a $10.7 million bonus.

The math is simple, grotesque and largely misleading.

"People say he lost all this money," Linda said. "Well, it was money he never had. Second of all, there is no price for happiness. Matt was not mentally ready to leave, he was not physically ready to leave. Now he is. I think he's going to the perfect spot, and you can't put a price tag on that. I think people need to put this in perspective."

Besides, the math is based on an erroneous assumption. Had Leinart left USC as a junior, there's no guarantee he would've been the No. 1 pick. He could've slipped in 2005 the way he slipped in 2006. In fact, his father is sure of it.

"He was hurt," Bob Leinart said. "He wouldn't have been 100 percent when he worked out and the (NFL) scouts, they're brutal. They would've killed him."

But, no doubt, the decision to stay in school ultimately worked against Leinart.

It gave off signals that he was too enamored with the Hollywood scene, too in love with being the big man on campus, and that playing professional football wasn't that important.

And in a sad twist, he is now the poster boy for not staying in school.

"Everyone praised me for that decision, for being the guy that stayed in school," Matt said. "And now I'm getting blasted for it. It's a joke."






As the outside world caves in on Leinart, he is finding solace in a familiar place:

His family.

In Arizona, Leinart will live with his older brother Ryan, his best friend from high school and his new pet, a bulldog named Max. His parents are coming in later this week to help him find a house, and they plan on attending every game the Cardinals play.

"We're going to have a strong support system there for him," Bob said.

It's the way it has always been.

While operating his own giftware business, Bob Leinart was able to invest much time with his two boys. He taught them how to play soccer, basketball and baseball. He boasts how he attended all their games and all their practices.

They grew even closer when Bob underwent emergency quadruple bypass surgery 12 years ago, surviving a close brush with death. During Matt's career at USC, the father drove to Los Angeles every Wednesday to have lunch with son.

Ryan is five years older than Matt, and has always kept his younger brother grounded. But you want love? When Matt was entering high school, Ryan paid for his younger brother to attend a football camp for assimilation purposes.

It came out of money Ryan earned parking cars.

And his mother?

Well, she is Matt's original bulldog, comforting her son, protecting her son, helping him find balance in a tilted world. And as they share a couch, it's obvious they are very close, very comfortable in each other's presence.

"I never wanted my kids to move to another state, but it's the best thing that's going to happen to him," said Linda, a school secretary for the Orange County Department of Education. "I also explained to him that, when I was 22, I made a lot of mistakes. But no one cared what Linda did. I remember my brother running down the street with a BB gun to shoot the boy I was dating . . . but who cared? Nobody.

"But Matt hasn't even slipped up. He hasn't made any mistakes. He's done everything right. It's just what they've made him."






Here's what happened to Matt Leinart:

He became close friends with a guy named Nick (Lachey), who was married to a pop star named Jessica (Simpson). Nick and Jessica had a really bad television show, precisely the kind of show that feeds the tabloids like a slow-drip IV. Suddenly, Leinart found himself swimming in the fishbowl.

Making matters even more complicated, the Lakers and Dodgers were struggling and Kobe Bryant was going through personal/injury problems. Leinart became the pinup quarterback for the only really good team in Los Angeles, and the best Trojans became rock stars.

"I don't blame (USC coach) Pete Carroll for any of this, but he encourages Hollywood people to come to practice . . . Snoop Dogg and Will Ferrell," Bob said. "I don't think he saw the repercussions."

It gets worse. After Matt had the gall to lose a second football game - the national championship game against Texas - the quarterback became linked with Paris Hilton. And just last week, another picture surfaced on the Internet, this one featuring Leinart leaving Hilton's mansion in the morning.

It was the moment when a mom knew her son had to leave LA.

"Nick Lachey is just the most down-to-earth person you can imagine," Linda said. "And Paris is just a friend. Paris . . . I hope she can turn her story around because she's actually a very nice person."






You might not know this, but Matt Leinart was not always a pretty boy.

He was born cross-eyed. He wore big glasses. He says he was overweight, and to prove it, he goes and gets pictures off his bedroom wall.

"I had the whole dorky look going," Leinart said. "I was a fat kid, and I'd get made fun of. I wouldn't want to take my shirt off. When I didn't have my glasses on and I was tired, my eye would cross, so everyone made fun of that, too. Kids are so cruel to each other. But fortunately, I was good at sports. If I wasn't, I probably would've killed myself."

He points to a picture of himself in Little League.

"See? Here's a fat one," Leinart said. "I was huge. But I threw gas."

Now, ask yourself:

Would a superficial, image-conscious Hollywood type be talking so openly about cosmetic flaws?

Probably not.

"Once people know me, or are around me, they know how I am," Matt said. "I just hang out. I don't do anything. I lead a boring life. I mean, Mom, what do I do?"

Answered Linda: "He's not a partier. He'll go to parties, but he's never been a partier. He likes to hang out, play video games, have dinner with his parents."

Alas, this will be quite a shock for all the nightclub owners in the Valley, the ones who eagerly await Leinart and his Hollywood posse.

"They're not going to see me much," he said. "They're going to be disappointed."

The guess here is, they'll be the only ones.



Reach Bickley at [email protected] or (602) 444-8253.


http://www.azcentral.com/sports/columns/articles/0516bickley0516.html
 

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This might be the best and most objective piece Ban Dickley has ever written save for bashing "Newlyweds", I love that show. ;)

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Great article Bickley. Leinart just did what every other QB did in college (except win nearly every game and be one of the best players at his postion ever) and he gets run through the gauntlet. If he played at Ohio State nobody would know or care about who he railed and they certainly wouldn't use that against him in the Draft.
 

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Wow, Bickley actually wrote an article with some substance. Now that's a first!
 

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bah - it's a fluff piece

between this and boiven's article this weekend about how lienart isn't into the party scene and that football is his #1 priority, etc it shows just how much the republic is getting on the bandwagon

he's a middle class guy, his parent work, it hurts everyone that he wasn't the top pick, he just hangs around with high profile people - it's not that he's high profile

meanwhile, there is a video on MSN where he is discussing his relationship with paris, he's constantly being photographed going into and out of clubs and now that he has money and distance from the family - this will not stop

his whole circle of friends are going to be high profile people, people of means and people who can and will go out

does that make him a bad QB?! - no

i've bumped into steve nash a couple times out in the city this year and the fact that he was out at a bar didn't keep him from winning MVP

if he has a fighting attitude, a dedicated attitude and one that won't get down with the bumps and bruises he will take then he should be fine

if he mopes (like he did about not being selected until 10th), gets down about the way he is portrayed or what people are saying about his performance etc - then there will be issues

for as middle class and tough luck he wants to portray his upbringing, the fact is for the past 6+ years he's been the good looking QB who everyone thought would go pro - he's been very successful and hasn't really had to struggle for much of anything

he will struggle in the NFL, he will get smacked in the mouth - it's a matter if he just rests on his comfortable life or decides to fight and improve
 

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I like it that he went back for his senior year at USC instead of going pro. I like it because players leaving early hurts the college game and if it is meant for them to be in the NFL they will get there regardless of whether they leave early or not. I respect him for returning for it now as I did then.
 

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MigratingOsprey said:
bah - it's a fluff piece

between this and boiven's article this weekend about how lienart isn't into the party scene and that football is his #1 priority, etc it shows just how much the republic is getting on the bandwagon

he's a middle class guy, his parent work, it hurts everyone that he wasn't the top pick, he just hangs around with high profile people - it's not that he's high profile

meanwhile, there is a video on MSN where he is discussing his relationship with paris, he's constantly being photographed going into and out of clubs and now that he has money and distance from the family - this will not stop

his whole circle of friends are going to be high profile people, people of means and people who can and will go out

does that make him a bad QB?! - no

i've bumped into steve nash a couple times out in the city this year and the fact that he was out at a bar didn't keep him from winning MVP

if he has a fighting attitude, a dedicated attitude and one that won't get down with the bumps and bruises he will take then he should be fine

if he mopes (like he did about not being selected until 10th), gets down about the way he is portrayed or what people are saying about his performance etc - then there will be issues

for as middle class and tough luck he wants to portray his upbringing, the fact is for the past 6+ years he's been the good looking QB who everyone thought would go pro - he's been very successful and hasn't really had to struggle for much of anything

he will struggle in the NFL, he will get smacked in the mouth - it's a matter if he just rests on his comfortable life or decides to fight and improve
Good lord. Leinart is just like every other professional athlete out there that isn't praying or being a complete dork like Peyton Manning and watching film on his weekend nights. The only difference is he has crossed into regular celebrity status and therefore has cameramen following them around at all times. People have spouted off the same nonsense about Tom Brady and Derek Jeter and they're doing fine.

Going out never became an issue in college, I don't see it becoming one in the pros.
 
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college isn't the pros

and i'm not saying that it will become an issue either or that they shouldn't go out

just saying that it could become a distraction - especially now that he has a fat paycheck in his pocket

not every pro athlete has crossed over - some deal with it fine (like jeter), others do not

but until he goes out there in a pro game he's going to have to hear this - especially since he is far from media shy

don't say that you don't like all the talk and then give a slew of interviews about the subject keeping it alive
 

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college isn't the pros
This might actually be valid if he didn't go to USC and wasn't the most recognizable sports figure in the country's second biggest market. No matter how great the bars or women are and no matter how invasive the media gets here in Phoenix, it will pale in comparison to what he had in LA.

I'm just going to chalk this up to Seahawk fan wishful thinking.
 

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has nothing to do with media coverage

has to do with the level of defense he will be facing

you can prepare a little differently facing oregon than you can an NFL team

i'm admittedly not high on his pro prospects - never have been - however, of all the teams this is the perfect situation and the one that offers the most chance of success

just want to make it clear that what I'm saying is that he is going to be challenged like never before - he didn't have to deal with disapointment much the past 3 years and it is inevitable for a young QB in the NFL (with ben being really the only exception that I can think of)

my question isn't will the media circus get to him - it shouldn't, he should be used to it

my question is when he struggles will he tune out the other stuff and focus on the game, or will he act whiny and just rest on his circle & fame
 

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MigratingOsprey said:
has nothing to do with media coverage

has to do with the level of defense he will be facing

you can prepare a little differently facing oregon than you can an NFL team

There should be little difference between facing Oregon's defense and going against a Marmie defense.

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touche

thank god he is nothing but an assistant to the DB coach ... only a foolish organization would make him DC

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The rest of the NFL is going to have to get used to hundreds of Lienart/ Cardinal related articles. The guy is a superstar of Manning proportions and will get the same coverage Peyton did out of college.
 

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MigratingOsprey said:
bah - it's a fluff piece...
Respectfully disagree.

The Leinart image most frequently portrayed by the media is one of "Hollywood Matt."

Bickley's piece attempted to set the record straight - at least from Leinart's perspective. As such, it was a much-needed missing piece of the puzzle, because it "it told us things we didn't know."

Sometimes Bickley infuriates me, and I've let him know via e-mail. This time I think he did good, and deserves props for it.

Plenty of time to throw rocks at him later on (if and when he deserves it).
 

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that's the thing though - he is hollywood matt

he isn't doing just what every other college guy does - he hangs with celebrities, spends a lot of time in clubs with high profile people, etc - not that this is a bad thing - but it's definitely the truth

you wont see vernon davis in US Weekly

and it's crazy for matt to say the image isn't true while giving fluff interviews to entertainment reporters about his dating life, etc
 

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This should warm your heart

I post on the Suns board, but this was right up your alley: T.J. Slimers taking a shot at your favorite local columnist, Dan Bickley, so he could get in a lighter shot at the Cards rookie QB.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers17may17,1,1576329.column?page=2&track=crosspromo&coll=la-headlines-sports

ARIZONA REPUBLIC columnist Dan Bickley spent time recently with the Cardinals' new quarterback, Matt Leinart, obviously trying to score an introduction with Paris Hilton — and I apologize for the error if it was really Nick Lachey he was hoping to meet.

Bickley also chatted with Leinart's mom and dad, and by the tone of his column he will be joining them all for Thanksgiving dinner.

Under the headline, "Hollywood image isn't Leinart" — although there's no mention of Leinart's big party at the MGM's Pure nightclub in Las Vegas recently in which everyone was urged to come and meet his celebrity friends — we discover Leinart and his family are troubled with his Hollywood image.

"I don't blame [USC Coach] Pete Carroll for any of this," Matt's father, Bob, is quoted as saying. "But he encourages Hollywood people to come to practice … Snoop Dogg and Will Ferrell. I don't think he saw the repercussions."

Those repercussions, according to Bickley's column, included having Matt's picture shown on the Internet recently leaving Hilton's mansion in the morning.

It's amazing the crosses some people have to carry.
 

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Ya,

This was already posted in the "Hollywood Leinart" thread, but good stuff anyway.
 

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I feel bad for him. He's done absolutely nothing to warrant assaults on his personal life, that I know of, yet he's getting flack because of people he knows. I just hope he can keep the media morons out of his head and stay football focused.
 

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that's the thing though - he is hollywood matt
Um, perhaps because he lived in LA for the past five years. Should he have commuted to San Diego when he needed a cocktail to avoid the criticism of the internet message board and talk show lynch mob?

he isn't doing just what every other college guy does - he hangs with celebrities, spends a lot of time in clubs with high profile people, etc - not that this is a bad thing - but it's definitely the truth
If doing these things isn't bad as you suggest, then why repeatedly bring it up to denigrate the kid? He is doing exactly what other college kids do (go to bars and try to bang the hottest girl there) it's only that he went to school at USC and many kids who go to University of Spoiled Children have the budget to go to bars that have paparazzi camped out outside and where the hottest girl at said bar sometimes is a celebrity.

you wont see vernon davis in US Weekly
That's because nobody who's not a NFL fan knows or cares who Vernon Davis is.

Again, nothing Matt is doing is any different than a lot of athletes are doing except he is a crossover celebrity that is also newsworthy to the InTouch's and US Weekly's of the world. These posts of yours are beginning to sound like George Steinbreener' sad tirade against Jeter's lifestyle a few years ago. Like The Boss was, you are completely off base as nobody has ever questioned Leinart's dedication to football at any point during his tenure at USC even when every distraction in the book has been thrown his way.
 
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