Houston Interested in Amare??

[devilalum]

BUT is it better than 46 AND 60!?

Exactly, to draft a star you need to be really bad or REALLY lucky.

 

[overseascardfan]

I think PHX can get a S&T, Amare is not going to leave money on the table, we all know the man is cheap and money means a lot to him. Now its what can PHX get in return. I like the HOU package of Scola/Battier/Hill/pick or throw in Barbosa to get Budinger. A double S&T for Lee seems possible as Amare meets with NY on Monday.

 

[AzStevenCal]

A double S&T for Lee seems possible as Amare meets with NY on Monday.

That's the one I'm hoping for. Even if we end up overpaying Lee by a few million annually I'd be in favor of it. Assuming we are not going to do the smart thing and rebuild I'd pay extra to have an above average power forward on the team. He's not the player Amare is, perhaps not evenl that close but he's at least serviceable.

Actually, if it wasn't for the injury concerns I'd have no qualms about giving Amare a max length/max dollar contract. Oh well, that ship has sailed.

Steve

 

[Divide Et Impera]

He's not the player Amare is? You may be right because Lee could be just as good or even marginally better! Granted, when Amare is on and into the game, he is literally one of the most unstoppable forces in the history of the game. The dude can be amazing and it would take a rare player to compare to him. The problem is that it is CONDITIONAL. There's and "if factor" to Amare and that is the sickening part.

Lee?

Well, that dude brings it and he brings it the way you want it brought. Defensively, he's the same player Amare is, but in terms of rebounding and scoring (compared to "average Amare", not "if factor Amare") he is BETTER on the boards and just as good as Amare in scoring. Consider that Lee plays with Duhon as his starting point AND that he is the only threat on NYK and that should settle your minds that he can hang with the big boys. He is literally the only guy opposing teams have had to guard and he dropped, what, 18 to 20 ppg this past year?

Gimme a break. I'll take Lee in place of Amare pretty much any time except for "if factor Amare". And if you want to pay a long term deal for "if factor Amare", be my guest....

 

[Folster]

According to Adrian Wojnarowski, Houston is offering up Scola, Battier, and Ariza for Bosh or Stoudemire.

Y! Sports Free Agency Buzz: Rockets offering Scola, Ariza and Battier in sign-and-trades for Bosh or Amar'e: http://tinyurl.com/2b3vxp4

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Scola/Hill/Battier OR Ariza/1st or get beat.

The best bet would be to let Bosh get off the market and that way HOU can't play this weak sauce leverage they are trying to play....

 

[Folster]

Scola/Hill/Battier OR Ariza/1st or get beat.

The best bet would be to let Bosh get off the market and that way HOU can't play this weak sauce leverage they are trying to play....

Patrick Patterson?

 

[hafey]

Amare has to want to go to Houston, and I don't see that happening- not with all the other options.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

ANY s&t proposal on any message board presupposes that the player being s&t'd has agreed to the deal. SIGN and trade....

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Patrick Patterson?

Please expand. I don't immediately know your point....

 

[Folster]

Please expand. I don't immediately know your point....

Houston could potentially include him. Does he interest you?

 

[KloD]

ANY s&t proposal on any message board presupposes that the player being s&t'd has agreed to the deal. SIGN and trade....

If Houston offers the max (I don't believe anyone else will), you can bet he'll agree to that deal.

 

[elindholm]

Getting a top 5 pick next year.

Great, so now your team is James Harden and, uh, some other guys. What's your next move? You can't build a contender with a couple of top-five picks and nothing else.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Gimme a break. I'll take Lee in place of Amare pretty much any time except for "if factor Amare". And if you want to pay a long term deal for "if factor Amare", be my guest....

Out of sheer curiosity, who are you responding to. Your post immediately follows mine and is on the same subject so my guess is you're sending this thing my way. If so, I think you need to re-read my post. We're not in agreement but I don't think I'm far enough away from your point to warrant a "Gimme a break". I also think you may have misunderstood my re-sign Amare comment.

I'd like to see us acquire Lee but I think you're ignoring a lot of the things Amare can do for a team. It's hard to overstate the value of having a player that can get to the free throw line almost at will. Once you get the ref blowing his whistle it helps out the whole team. And it's not really accurate to say he's inconsistent. He spent the second half of this season pretending to be one of the best players in the game and although he was subpar in the playoffs he usually plays his best during the postseason.

I don't really have a strong feeling about Lee. I remember him playing very well in the Mcdonalds game (or something like it) and I watched him play a few dozen times in college but nobody has held a gun to my head so I've had no reason to watch the Knicks.

I look at the still weaker Eastern conference and the fact that the Knicks have not been as talent-bare as their record suggests and it makes me wonder just how good Lee really is. Still, his numbers are impressive enough that he'd make for a nice consolation prize for losing Amare. If we get him and it turns out that he's Amare's equal or even better, trust me, I'll be thrilled.

Steve

 

[Evil Ash]

Amare has to want to go to Houston, and I don't see that happening- not with all the other options.

Other options? If everything likely goes to plan Bosh goes to Miami (getting Amare then becomes redundant) and Boozer then goes to Chicago as their consolation prize (with Noah and Boozer, there's no room for Amare).

So that likely leaves the Clippers, the Nets, the Knicks, and Houston via sign-and-trade. Which would you choose?

 

[slinslin]

Great, so now your team is James Harden and, uh, some other guys. What's your next move? You can't build a contender with a couple of top-five picks and nothing else.

Seems to me the Thunder could. It just took 3 years.

 

[elindholm]

Seems to me the Thunder could. It just took 3 years.

You can't be serious. The Thunder had four top-five (or was it top-six) picks in a row, and one of them included the league's hands-down best player under age 25. Plus they had a coveted All-Star to use as a trade piece (Allen) and an unusually savvy GM who understood the value of late first-round picks.

The Suns are nowhere near the Sonics/Thunder of five years ago. That team was primed to rebuild; the circumstances were very favorable. You can't force it.

 

[splitsecond]

the last thing i want on this team is battier.

 

[Folster]

the last thing i want on this team is battier.

Why? The guy is the best at defending Kobe in the league.

 

[AzStevenCal]

You can't be serious. The Thunder had four top-five (or was it top-six) picks in a row, and one of them included the league's hands-down best player under age 25. Plus they had a coveted All-Star to use as a trade piece (Allen) and an unusually savvy GM who understood the value of late first-round picks.

Well, let's do that then.

Steve

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Well, let's do that then.

Steve

Sounds like a plan!