How can the Warriors afford everyone?

[CardsSunsDbacks]

There's some truth there but I think it's also simplistic. And IMO, changing that is just the beginning of handing the league back over to the mega markets. The cap and the luxury tax and max contracts and such are all a part of what they've put in place to keep the New York's from buying all the talent. That contract they signed to get Amare from us made a lot of sense for them but for a franchise on tighter margins, such as the Suns, that contract could have been financial suicide. If there is no control over the big checkbooks, the little guys will be in even more trouble.

I still say that the failure to smoothe the huge cap raise is a short term issue, it's not a problem that has to be solved. It will solve itself and if the league ever comes into another huge revenue influx, I suspect the players association will use better judgement next time. And sometime in the next two or three years I'd wager that GS will end up losing a couple of their cornerstones.

Except the cap is only going to continue to rise significantly over the next 7-8 seasons at least. It is currently projected to be $148m in 2025/26. It may even continue to go up after that, but I haven't seen projections beyond that.

 

[Phrazbit]

There's some truth there but I think it's also simplistic. And IMO, changing that is just the beginning of handing the league back over to the mega markets. The cap and the luxury tax and max contracts and such are all a part of what they've put in place to keep the New York's from buying all the talent. That contract they signed to get Amare from us made a lot of sense for them but for a franchise on tighter margins, such as the Suns, that contract could have been financial suicide. If there is no control over the big checkbooks, the little guys will be in even more trouble.

I still say that the failure to smoothe the huge cap raise is a short term issue, it's not a problem that has to be solved. It will solve itself and if the league ever comes into another huge revenue influx, I suspect the players association will use better judgement next time. And sometime in the next two or three years I'd wager that GS will end up losing a couple of their cornerstones.

That amare contract killed the Knicks. I don't see it as a help to anyone except teams that are already wise. The Knicks are perpetually stupid and that Amare offer wasn't about being rich, it was about being dumb.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Except the cap is only going to continue to rise significantly over the next 7-8 seasons at least. It is currently projected to be $148m in 2025/26. It may even continue to go up after that, but I haven't seen projections beyond that.

Sure, the cap will go up but it's a steady and predictable rise. The one year boost because of the new TV contract opened the door to the Durant signing. There likely won't be a huge jump like that again although gambling revenues might cause some lesser issues.

 

[AzStevenCal]

That amare contract killed the Knicks. I don't see it as a help to anyone except teams that are already wise. The Knicks are perpetually stupid and that Amare offer wasn't about being rich, it was about being dumb.

You won't be able to get rid of max contracts without also losing a lot of the other protections in place. If the Knicks were allowed to spend to their own level (as they would without those protections), that deal would have been less than a blip on the radar to them. There's no reason for the players association to give in, even if it benefits the biggest stars, without doing away with luxury tax and so on. JMO.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Sure, the cap will go up but it's a steady and predictable rise. The one year boost because of the new TV contract opened the door to the Durant signing. There likely won't be a huge jump like that again although gambling revenues might cause some lesser issues.

No, but the constant rises will only make it easier for already good teams to make salaries work again year after year. Because they will constantly have another 7-8 mil to work with each off season.

 

[Phrazbit]

You won't be able to get rid of max contracts without also losing a lot of the other protections in place. If the Knicks were allowed to spend to their own level (as they would without those protections), that deal would have been less than a blip on the radar to them. There's no reason for the players association to give in, even if it benefits the biggest stars, without doing away with luxury tax and so on. JMO.

Max contacts were a concession by the players, not the owners. The only players who are gaining from them are the pseudo stars (and that as an unintended consequence). The superstars and middle tier players are getting screwed.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Max contacts were a concession by the players, not the owners. The only players who are gaining from them are the pseudo stars (and that as an unintended consequence). The superstars and middle tier players are getting screwed.

I agree with the superstars getting screwed, but how so for the middle tier? A lot of the middle tier guys are getting multi year contracts for like $15m/year right now.