How many years do Cards have left to play on this level

[SissyBoyFloyd]

How long before they end up back to square one and at the top portion of the draft once again?

 

[juza76]

ahahah u are funny

 

[AzStevenCal]

I guess it just depends on how long we can hang on to Gerald Fitzsimmons. Anyway, I was going to check the billion years box but had to settle for never again.

Steve

 

[Hollywood]

I guess it just depends on how long we can hang on to Gerald Fitzsimmons. Anyway, I was going to check the billion years box but had to settle for never again.

Steve

This. The key is to keep Gerald. With him the sky is the limit.

 

[Jim Otis]

Some folks get all bought up in players , I believe deep down that coaching (Head Coach) sets the tone and path to winning . Of course it's a given that Coach sets his plan around select players and if they fall to injury it disrupts the coaches plan . They are not giving these COY awards to BA based on he's a jolly good fellow . So , SissyBoy my answer to your question would be until BA retires , at 62 now that could be in a few short years .

 

[D-Dogg]

Gerald Fitzsimmons will keep us on top for a billion million years.

 

[Catfish]

If they can develop a QBOF, they can remain in this grouping for a long time.

 

[sunsfan88]

Palmer probably only has 1-2 years left. They need to draft a good QB to stay elite.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

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[BigRedMO]

Soon. Historically this organization drafts in top 15 picks since inception of draft. The current team has lots of problems. Last year's collapse hurt so much because all the breaks had been going there way. They were winning games they had no business winning. Like going into Dallas and thrashing Cowboys. A beat down like that had not happened since the 70s. I always tell people best time of year to be a fan of Big Red in terms of national notoriety is around draft most years. As a fan that your time to dream they will get the player that unlocks success if even for just a few short years. Something like what Metcalf did when drafted out of Long Beach State.

 

[Jetstream Green]

As long as we have a solid front office and a good coaching staff

 

[Snakester]

As long as they want to with a decent QB and coaching staff.

 

[Darkside]

I actually believe we may be relevant for awhile, as in many years, even after BA leaves.

State of the art facilities, good to great front office. Frankly, even though I love BA, I think this has more to do with Mike Bidwill.

If he continues making sound decisions, the sky is the limit, and this team will be consistently good.

He's making winning football decisions and it didn't start with BA. It started with Ken Whisenhunt. You can hate the coach, but the important aspect wasn't Bidwill hiring him, even though he coached us to a SB--the most important aspect was firing him and his staff. It showed he wouldn't accept losing. I imagine if you ask him and he were being honest he'd tell you he kept Whisenhunt a year too long, but even firing him when he did shows his tolerance level for suck is not high.

He jettisoned the coach, his staff, and his GM, because he has a vision of what winning looks like and that wasn't it.

Whisenhunt was able to siphon an extra year or two out of him because of the SB, but Bidwill still wasn't afraid to start completely over. To win, and that takes huge stones.

Michael Bidwill cares about the family name, cares about the Cardinal brand, and cares about winning.

 

[BigRedMO]

I actually believe we may be relevant for awhile, as in many years, even after BA leaves.

State of the art facilities, good to great front office. Frankly, even though I love BA, I think this has more to do with Mike Bidwill.

If he continues making sound decisions, the sky is the limit, and this team will be consistently good.

He's making winning football decisions and it didn't start with BA. It started with Ken Whisenhunt. You can hate the coach, but the important aspect wasn't Bidwill hiring him, even though he coached us to a SB--the most important aspect was firing him and his staff. It showed he wouldn't accept losing. I imagine if you ask him and he were being honest he'd tell you he kept Whisenhunt a year too long, but even firing him when he did shows his tolerance level for suck is not high.

He jettisoned the coach, his staff, and his GM, because he has a vision of what winning looks like and that wasn't it.

Whisenhunt was able to siphon an extra year or two out of him because of the SB, but Bidwill still wasn't afraid to start completely over. To win, and that takes huge stones.

Michael Bidwill cares about the family name, cares about the Cardinal brand, and cares about winning.

Maybe some day he will win a Super Bowl. My definition of winning must be different than yours.

 

[machgman]

I actually believe we may be relevant for awhile, as in many years, even after BA leaves.

State of the art facilities, good to great front office. Frankly, even though I love BA, I think this has more to do with Mike Bidwill.

If he continues making sound decisions, the sky is the limit, and this team will be consistently good.

He's making winning football decisions and it didn't start with BA. It started with Ken Whisenhunt. You can hate the coach, but the important aspect wasn't Bidwill hiring him, even though he coached us to a SB--the most important aspect was firing him and his staff. It showed he wouldn't accept losing. I imagine if you ask him and he were being honest he'd tell you he kept Whisenhunt a year too long, but even firing him when he did shows his tolerance level for suck is not high.

He jettisoned the coach, his staff, and his GM, because he has a vision of what winning looks like and that wasn't it.

Whisenhunt was able to siphon an extra year or two out of him because of the SB, but Bidwill still wasn't afraid to start completely over. To win, and that takes huge stones.

Michael Bidwill cares about the family name, cares about the Cardinal brand, and cares about winning.

Agreed.

After Warner showed Bidwill what real winning looked and felt like, after Bidwill finallygot admitted to the upper level of NFL owners clubdue to the Super Bowl year, after he showed he would accept Whisenhunt blaming coaches and players for losses, Bidwill is a changed man who hungers for more Card teams playing in the Super Bowl. He is no dummy and far more astute than Daddy, so I am sure he is not happy that Keim and Ba entrusted the Cards offense to Lindley and wasted away a potential Super Bowl season. You can also add those players who will end up not being with the Cards or even in the NFL next year as unhappy campers that BA and Keim gambled away last season on Lindley suddenly being able to play and produce like a decent journeyman NFL QB instead of his historically poor play. Lindley did his best, but just couldn't. The ones who knew better were Keim and BA. The one who now knows better is Michael Bidwill and you can bet Bidwill won't allow BA and Keim to pull something like that again.

 

[cardncubfan]

I actually believe we may be relevant for awhile, as in many years, even after BA leaves.

State of the art facilities, good to great front office. Frankly, even though I love BA, I think this has more to do with Mike Bidwill.

If he continues making sound decisions, the sky is the limit, and this team will be consistently good.

He's making winning football decisions and it didn't start with BA. It started with Ken Whisenhunt. You can hate the coach, but the important aspect wasn't Bidwill hiring him, even though he coached us to a SB--the most important aspect was firing him and his staff. It showed he wouldn't accept losing. I imagine if you ask him and he were being honest he'd tell you he kept Whisenhunt a year too long, but even firing him when he did shows his tolerance level for suck is not high.

He jettisoned the coach, his staff, and his GM, because he has a vision of what winning looks like and that wasn't it.

Whisenhunt was able to siphon an extra year or two out of him because of the SB, but Bidwill still wasn't afraid to start completely over. To win, and that takes huge stones.

Michael Bidwill cares about the family name, cares about the Cardinal brand, and cares about winning.

I agree Darkside. Good post. I think Mike B wants to win & will do whatever it takes to do so. BigRedMo hates them for some reason & it's blinding him from seeing what is actually happening with the organization imo.

 

[English on tour]

Palmer probably only has 1-2 years left. They need to draft a good QB to stay elite.

Pretty much this for me.