How would you have preferred the Arizona Cardinals 2011 draft to go

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1. Patrick Peterson / Same
2. Ryan Williams / TE Kyle Rudolph
3. Rob Housler / ILB Martez Wilson
4. Sam Acho / Same
5. Anthony Sherman / OT/G Marcus Cannon
6. Quan Sturdivant / Same
6. David Carter / QB Greg McElroy
7. Demarco Sampson / whatever FB is left.

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I am very pleased with the draft we had. I believe it would be hard to improve upon.
 

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I would have liekd the deal with the Jaguars that the Redskins got at #10:

The #16 and #41 for the #5.

Here we go:

16. Ryan Kerrigan, OLB/DE, Purdue. Toughest player in the draft.

38. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon St. Tough as nails.

41. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky. Toughest player over the middle and in converting third downs. Better option in the slot than any player in the draft.

69. Mason Foster, ILB, Washington. Super productive. Tackles hard and with authority.

103. Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville. Real gamer. Can take a swing pass and turn it into a home run.

136. Anthony Sherman, FB, Connecticut. Tough and versatile.

171. Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama. Smart and tough.

184. Tyler Sash, SS, Iowa. Brings it.

249. Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut. Big and nasty.
 

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I like the draft as it is but I think it really hinges on the performance of two players. Ryan Williams and Sam Acho.

I think a lot of people would have preferred to have the selections flip flopped, as in the OLB drafted in the second and a RB drafted in the fourth.

If Williams comes in and contributes right away and does not have the injury and fumbling concerns (despite what Whiz says he has fumbled and is known to have ball security issues) of his predecessors then the pick will be outstanding.

Acho has a little more leeway seeing as he was a later pick. But if he can come in and provide a least some sort of pass rush and more importantly hold the edge and factor in the run D while Schofield is rushing from the other side, then waiting until the fourth to get an OLB will obviously be justified.

All the other players are fine for where they were chosen.
 

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We got the two guys I wanted. Peterson and Acho. That's real good. Wouldn't change those at all and really not too unhappy with the other players. Especially since the two good ILBs Irving and Shepard went right before us in the 3rd.

Concerns aren't really player related but position. The RB pick that high seems to indicate to me that Wells is a bust and we've missed on yet another first round pick.

If it turns out that isn't the case its not so bad.

And I also didn't like the idea of drafting players for positions you don't use. BPA or not. What good is the best RB in the draft if he's only going to touch the ball 6 times a game? A great pass catching TE if you only throw him one pass every 3 weeks?

Again if it turns out that Ryan is a real receiving threat out of the backfield and CKW actually plans to involve the TE more in the offense then its not so bad.
 
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I can't be the only one whos somewhat concerned we didn't address OL protection... Am I?
 

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I can't be the only one whos somewhat concerned we didn't address OL protection... Am I?
You certainly are not. I have stated in other threads numerous times that after QB the O-line needs to be addressed via free-agency and or trade.
 

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I can't be the only one whos somewhat concerned we didn't address OL protection... Am I?

Nope.

2nd round, hard to see where choosing an offensive lineman was not a priority at that point.
 

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I would have liekd the deal with the Jaguars that the Redskins got at #10:

The #16 and #41 for the #5.

Here we go:

16. Ryan Kerrigan, OLB/DE, Purdue. Toughest player in the draft.

38. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon St. Tough as nails.

41. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky. Toughest player over the middle and in converting third downs. Better option in the slot than any player in the draft.

69. Mason Foster, ILB, Washington. Super productive. Tackles hard and with authority.

103. Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville. Real gamer. Can take a swing pass and turn it into a home run.

136. Anthony Sherman, FB, Connecticut. Tough and versatile.

171. Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama. Smart and tough.

184. Tyler Sash, SS, Iowa. Brings it.

249. Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut. Big and nasty.

Go sign him as he was undrafted. ;) I get why you would take him in the 7th round instead of hoping to sign him when and if FA starts.
 

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I would have liekd the deal with the Jaguars that the Redskins got at #10:

The #16 and #41 for the #5.

Here we go:

16. Ryan Kerrigan, OLB/DE, Purdue. Toughest player in the draft.

41. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky. Toughest player over the middle and in converting third downs. Better option in the slot than any player in the draft.

Thank God they were not that stupid.

I take PP7 over Kerrigan and Cobb every day. Way to waste a chance to draft an elite player.
 

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1. Patrick Peterson / Same
2. Ryan Williams / TE Kyle Rudolph
3. Rob Housler / ILB Martez Wilson
4. Sam Acho / Same
5. Anthony Sherman / OT/G Marcus Cannon
6. Quan Sturdivant / Same
6. David Carter / QB Greg McElroy
7. Demarco Sampson / whatever FB is left.

What do you think?

How I would have preferred the Cards 2011 draft to go would be with less histrionics, head banging etc from several of the posters. :D
 

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How I would have preferred the Cards 2011 draft to go would be with less histrionics, head banging etc from several of the posters. :D

I would have preferred it to go without the incessant complaining about the histrionics, head banging etc.

:D
 

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I would have preferred it to go without the incessant complaining about the histrionics, head banging etc.

:D

Sure enough. But we do know which came first so this is no chicken egg thingy.

:D
 

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Sure enough. But we do know which came first so this is no chicken egg thingy.

:D

One is fans talking about football. The other is fans talking about other fans.

And we all know what we should be talking about on a football message board.........

........that it would be great if we still had ASFN Bucks to wager and where the tailgates are in the parking lot.

:D
 

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With hindsite I would have gone something like this:
1) CB Peterson
2) TE Kyle Rudolph
3) OG Moffitt
4) SOLB Acho
5) WOLB Chris Carter
6) ILB Quan
6) NT Jerrell Powe
7) WR Dane Sanzenbacher

My thinking with this is if we truly are hoping to develop a run game, Rudolph and Moffitt can help with that (although I'd assume Moffitt would sit for a year or so).
Powe could be in the rotation but we'd probably still get a free agent vet NT to mentor and rotate for a couple of years.
Acho could be in the rotation behind Davis and Haggins.
Carter can be behind Schofield (but we'd probably want a vet bridge here as well).
It's alot of youth to assimilate in the LB corp. but I think it's needed.
I'd love to get a developmental LT but I didn't see anyone I liked. That would be a high priority for the following year.
 

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Honestly this draft stunk I am very worried that this draft set us back years. too often we are drafting to cover up poor drafting in the past. This is a cycle that is highly detrimental to the success of this team. I greatly question how good our talent eavluation is. That said here is what I wish we would have done with the draft picks we had.

#5 Patrick Peterson CB/ LSU, love this pick he is an instant starter and gives us possibly the best secondary in the NFL. This will help our return game also.

#38 We drafted Ryan Williams RB/ VT because we promised him and he was "THE BEST PLAYER AVAILIBLE" this is where our talent evaluation comes into question. There were several players that were availible who where better like say DaQuan Bowers and several LB's, oddly though I would have liked us to Draft Kyle Rudolph TE/ Notre Dame. He fills a serious need and was the best TE in this draft by far. He does everyhting well.

#69 We drafted Robert Housler TE/ Florida Atlantic, really. How about Justin Houston OLB/ Georgia one of the top rated 3-4 LB's in this draft and played against elite talent. Yes he has character issues, but talent is freaking talent. This is where our coaches and lockerroom dod their job to mentor this kid.

#103 We drafted Sam Ocho LB/ Texas, decent pick, but still a project. I would have loved to see Christian Ballard DE/T/ Iowa, this guys is a beast who is a great 3-4 DLinemen, plays every position on it and can back up all of them. Could replace Dockett if we determine he isn't the right guy.

#136 Anthony Sherman RB/ Connecticut, WTF are we doing. How about Marcus Cannon G/ TCU yes there are injury/weight concerns(he is smaller than Duece), but it's the 5th round and this guy is a mauler.

#171 Quan Sturdivant LB/ NCU, I love this pick here, he is likely recovered from his hammy and is very quick and has some cover skills. I see our SLB here.

#184 Dan Carter DL/ UCLA, not even on anyones radar. he will be cut during TC. How about Lee Ziemba OT/ Auburn, he protected Cam newton the #1 PICK, that says enough for me to have him.

#249 We drafted Demarco Sampson WR/ SD State. Can you say UFA. There are three players availible here that would have bee choice signings. #1 was Ricardo Lockett WR/ Fort Valley, developmental, but spedd is speed and has decent hands. Not great competition, but could become a decent receiver. #2 Deandre McDaniel SS/ Clemson, do we have any safety depth....no. Rashad Johnson has proven to be worthless. This guy may take his job and would have provided great ST coverage. #3 Derrick Locke RB/ Kentucky, quick, great hands and decent in PP. not an everydown guy, but since wee seemed hellbent on getting a RB why not.

There we have it my gripes and what I wished we would have done.

This draft grades a D for what we failed to do.
 

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#249 We drafted Demarco Sampson WR/ SD State. Can you say UFA. There are three players availible here that would have bee choice signings. #1 was Ricardo Lockett WR/ Fort Valley, developmental, but spedd is speed and has decent hands. Not great competition, but could become a decent receiver. #2 Deandre McDaniel SS/ Clemson, do we have any safety depth....no. Rashad Johnson has proven to be worthless. This guy may take his job and would have provided great ST coverage. #3 Derrick Locke RB/ Kentucky, quick, great hands and decent in PP. not an everydown guy, but since wee seemed hellbent on getting a RB why not.

So you complain that we drafted a guy you thought would have gone undrafted, yet talk about three different replacements who were actually undrafted?????
 

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So you complain that we drafted a guy you thought would have gone undrafted, yet talk about three different replacements who were actually undrafted?????
We are taking a chance by letting the others go undrafted assuming we can sign them. The three listed are better NFL prospects than the guy we drafted. When you spend draft picks get someone who might actually make your team.
 

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We are taking a chance by letting the others go undrafted assuming we can sign them. The three listed are better NFL prospects than the guy we drafted. When you spend draft picks get someone who might actually make your team.

So three guys that no other team in the NFL wanted in 254 picks you can unequivically state that they are better NFL prospects? You must be some sort of draft prospect savant or something.
 

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So three guys that no other team in the NFL wanted in 254 picks you can unequivically state that they are better NFL prospects? You must be some sort of draft prospect savant or something.

It's "or something", but no doubt he'll lay claim to "savant" because that's what "fanatics" do. ;)
 

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1. Jerry Rice
2. Anthony Munoz
3. Reggie White
4. Steve Young
5. Earl Campbell
6. Bobby Bell
6. Deacon Jones
7. Dick "Night Train" Lane

That would have been awesome!
 

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1. Jerry Rice
2. Anthony Munoz
3. Reggie White
4. Steve Young
5. Earl Campbell
6. Bobby Bell
6. Deacon Jones
7. Dick "Night Train" Lane

That would have been awesome!

For what? A Memorial fund raiser at a Retirement Home?

:D
 

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