I hate to say it but at this point Kyler just isn’t that good...

[Shaggy]

I honestly think there's an internal struggle between Kingsbury and Murray. One wants to dink and dunk, the other wants toss the ball long. You notice that in throw into double coverage to KJ last game and then to AI in this one. Both on 3rd and manageable. I think QB isn't happy with coach.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

he’s a “generational talent” as we’ve been told by so many and force fed down our throat. He should be able to overcome some coaching deficiencies if he is. Playcalling isn’t causing him to lock into WRs that are double covered and throwing to them while other WRs are running free for a sure TD. Or overthrows on easy Wide open routes over the middle. Etc...

You forgot “It’s really only his third year of playing football...”

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[GoldGloveschmidt]

And, all this in a system literally designed for him.

I don't agree with that at all. This is a bad system for any QB. Kyler would do much better in a real NFL offense.

 

[Shane]

And, all this in a system literally designed for him.

really good point and was familiar with before even entering the league

 

[82CardsGrad]

I think Murray might’ve had a chance at success in the NFL, but contrary to all the “Kliff & Kyler match made in heaven” B.S., I believe Kliff is completely wrong for Kyler.
Kliff went all-in on the crap hype about him “changing the game” with his “never seen before” offensive schemes... Meanwhile, the NFL wins again as it smashes Kliff & Kyler in the face with reality... If you can’t stand in the pocket and make accurate throws... If you can’t make the appropriate pre and post-snap reads, it doesn’t matter how “futuristic” you claim to be. In the NFL, you will get crushed... and this is where Kliff & Kyler now sit. Exposed... Crushed... Lost...
This franchise is no closer to be a competitive NFL team than they were when Wilks and Rosen were here... I want to puke now.

 

[Shane]

I don't agree with that at all. This is a bad system for any QB. Kyler would do much better in a real NFL offense.

there is nothing about this comment based in any kind of reality.... sorry. But this is his college offense and was tailored for his “superstar skill set”

 

[azsouthendzone]

Lol this thread

 

[Shane]

You forgot “It’s really only his third year of playing football...”

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lol

 

[Cheesebeef]

Biggest issue to me is that he doesn’t look any better passing the ball this year than he did last.

 

[Shane]

Biggest issue to me is that he doesn’t look any better passing the ball this year than he did last.

He looks worse his field vision is awful

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Biggest issue to me is that he doesn’t look any better passing the ball this year than he did last.

This

Inaccurate, making the wrong read and happy feet.

 

[Shane]

This belongs here:

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[iLLmatiC]

Lol this thread

Lol this team

Lol your post

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I think Murray might’ve had a chance at success in the NFL, but contrary to all the “Kliff & Kyler match made in heaven” B.S., I believe Kliff is completely wrong for Kyler.
Kliff went all-in on the crap hype about him “changing the game” with his “never seen before” offensive schemes... Meanwhile, the NFL wins again as it smashes Kliff & Kyler in the face with reality... If you can’t stand in the pocket and make accurate throws... If you can’t make the appropriate pre and post-snap reads, it doesn’t matter how “futuristic” you claim to be. In the NFL, you will get crushed... and this is where Kliff & Kyler now sit. Exposed... Crushed... Lost...
This franchise is no closer to be a competitive NFL team than they were when Wilks and Rosen were here... I want to puke now.

 

[iLLmatiC]

This belongs here:

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Welcome to Kliff's offense.

 

[Shane]

I think Murray might’ve had a chance at success in the NFL, but contrary to all the “Kliff & Kyler match made in heaven” B.S., I believe Kliff is completely wrong for Kyler.
Kliff went all-in on the crap hype about him “changing the game” with his “never seen before” offensive schemes... Meanwhile, the NFL wins again as it smashes Kliff & Kyler in the face with reality... If you can’t stand in the pocket and make accurate throws... If you can’t make the appropriate pre and post-snap reads, it doesn’t matter how “futuristic” you claim to be. In the NFL, you will get crushed... and this is where Kliff & Kyler now sit. Exposed... Crushed... Lost...
This franchise is no closer to be a competitive NFL team than they were when Wilks and Rosen were here... I want to puke now.

 

[KYCardFan]

Kyler played horrible last week

This week the scheme was pathetic

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

He looks worse his field vision is awful

The question about his height is starting to come back into focus...

 

[Covert Rain]

The commentators pointed out that when he misses touch passes they are almost always high. We have seen him lack vision for chunks of the field. That’s all tied back to field vision.

Is this him just missing reads as a young QB or is this really about the coaches not being able to coach him out of being 5’10”?

Either way I think it’s way too early to make conclusions or panic about a young 2nd year QB who didn’t have a pre-season.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Blok Murray!

Oldie, but Goodie

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[swagron]

I don't agree with that at all. This is a bad system for any QB. Kyler would do much better in a real NFL offense.

I don’t agree with this at all. Last year we were told Kyler was coaching the coach and all the vets. All of a sudden it’s not a good system for him? Not buying it.

 

[vince56]

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He finished 24 / 31 for 133 yard and 3 TD.
5.5 YPC.

The scoring is good, but that is a seriously pedestrian passing attack.

 

[Minski]

I wish we would run more short slants with Isabella. Use his speed. It seems like the only time our WRs are open is when they are coming back to the ball and no real chance to get YAC

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Russell Wilson may have set the bar for how short you can be and still be an effective NFL QB. If Murray is lacking field vision like this next season, we may have seen the experiment fail. As much as I dislike Brady Quinn as an announcer, he hinted at this last week. Five foot 11 may be the lowest you can go without being at an insurmountable obstacle. And linemen ain’t getting any smaller

 

[wit3card]

Last week it was Kyler, today it was play calling
Overall D wasn't good last and this week.

Kyler seems to be in the Sophomor slump... for now he didn't look great after 4 games.