I have a question.

[coloradosun]

I have a question about player visits to Phoenix

Did Q Richardson ever visit the Suns before he signed an offer sheet. It was widely reported when he and Darius Miles visited Denver together and at that time is was stated that they were going to visit other teams. Was Darius along with Q when he visited Phoenix? One article in Hoopsworld that Q "quietly" offer sheet with Phoenix because nobody expected it.

Also, didn't we determine that Pryzbilla is a Bill Duffy client and he was our connection to the "shocking" center that we were about to sign? Why did Duffy make Portland the first team that JP visited and take a physical? Wouldn't he make arrangements for Pryz to come to work out for the Suns? Is JP coming to Phoenix any time soon? It seems to be that Duffy is directing his client to where he could benefit. Dampier and Pryz > Theo and Stepania

These are some questions that I cannot find answers for on my own, a little help please to keep my conspiracy theory alive.

I am sure I am entertaining everyone and hopefully you'll come visit my padded cell soon.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

We are not getting Ratliff

I am pretty sure Q visited Phoenix when he signed the sheet. It was just a very quick deal. Most players know about all the NBA cities anyways. Q played here twice a year for the past 4 years.

Miles did not come to Phoenix. At least it was never reported anywhere. Miles name has never been linked here except by people on the board.

If Damp signs for the MLE, it will be with NY. I think that much is obvious. Unless Memphis steps up their offer in a sign and trade, I think it will come down to NY or ATL for him.

Pryz is a Duffy client, but the rest is speculation by the board again. All Duffy said was that they would make a shocking aquisition of a center. He never said it would be one of his clients. Playing next to a real center would benefit his money maker player (Amare), so I don't think he would push Pryz on us to hard. Even he has to know he sucks.

Anyways, my guess is Portland is the first team to show interest. There isn't exactly a line forming to join the Joel Pryzbilla fan club.

 

[Errntknght]

I'm assuming the shocking deal Duffy mentioned a month ago has fallen apart. I can't imagine even he thought signing Przybilla would shock anyone - unless we paid him 5 million bucks...

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

I'm assuming the shocking deal Duffy mentioned a month ago has fallen apart. I can't imagine even he thought signing Przybilla would shock anyone - unless we paid him 5 million bucks...

I agree. Although, there is the speculation the trade could come after the olympics. I don't think it is impossible that a team might want to wait till after the games to agree to a deal. On the off chance Marion got hurt while he was over there, the other team could back out of the deal.

Of course, if that were the case, I would assume something would have been leaked by now. I can't imagine a trade being in place, and being kept a secret for over a month (unless of course it was with a person with a strong relationship with the suns, who recognized the need for secrecey)

 

[George O'Brien]

If memory serves me, the Suns (and another team) worked out Pryzbilla up in Utah during the RMR. I've said all along that JP's agent will keep shopping him to every team with cap space before settling for a minimum contract with the Suns or anyone else. IF he is forced to settle for a minimum contract, I'd think the Suns would have a good shot.

 

[PhxGametime]

OT but I had a question as well...

2004-05 NBA Basketball Yearbooks and Fantasy Magazines - when do they start selling those??

 

[coloradosun]

My perspective is that the Suns have proven to be a very tight lipped organization and that may be the benefit of having a father and son running the team. Be it the selection of Amare, the Marbury trade, the pursuit of Nash, the signing of Q. It is my speculation that Duffy was called by the Colangelos when he made his statement to the press he was reprimanded because that was the only leak and it was not "internal". The trade could still be formulated and the Colangelo's want to wait and tell Marion in person, that's the way they do things. I do agree that an injury to Marion would probably negate any trade or decrease his trade value, see Luc Longley with the Australlian team (fortunately we traded him before those games).

My focus on Portland and Golden State is that they have had a lot of opportunities to make moves and have waited a long time for the right deal to either present itself or at least expose it. Miles has not signed an offer sheet, who knows if one has been presented, only his agent and for that matter Q's agent, would know. SAR wants to be traded because he wants playing time and has not demanded a trade to a specific team, NJ presented that. The latter would have held up any move. Dampier has done a lot of shopping just to determine the contract that he could sign.

Duffy operates out of the Bay Area. His other client is Yao and if anyone knows the impact of bringing a Chinese player to that city, it would be him. If this deal goes through (SAR for Damp, and CRob) there will be cap room for GS to make an offer down the road. Duffy is also doing Pryzbilla justice by taking him to a situation that will benefit his client becuase he has "inside" information.

Yes, this is just speculation, but when dealing with the Suns, that is what we have to work with.

 

[coloradosun]

1) Most players know about all the NBA cities anyways.

2) If Damp signs for the MLE, it will be with NY. I think that much is obvious.

1) The Suns usually have the "family" around when they sell their vision, Amare, Chapman, Colangelos, the new ownership team all made the trip to get Nash, I would assume that they were around to do the same with Q. It is not about the city, its about the franchise. I am guessing Miles was on hand for the presentation.

2)Damp can't sign for the MLE if reports of Vin Baker has signed a 3.2M contract are accurate, via his agent.

Slinslin

I'm glad you are on board with Miles. I know that you had you sights set on getting Kobe, my sights have always been on Theo. The possible addition of Miles would make the loss of Marion easier absorb.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

1) The Suns usually have the "family" around when they sell their vision, Amare, Chapman, Colangelos, the new ownership team all made the trip to get Nash, I would assume that they were around to do the same with Q. It is not about the city, its about the franchise. I am guessing Miles was on hand for the presentation.

2)Damp can't sign for the MLE if reports of Vin Baker has signed a 3.2M contract are accurate, via his agent.

Slinslin

I'm glad you are on board with Miles. I know that you had you sights set on getting Kobe, my sights have always been on Theo. The possible addition of Miles would make the loss of Marion easier absorb.

I also like the idea of Miles, but only when we were getting another player on top of him. Unless of course Slin is right and we get him for the MLE next summer.

Considering Sarver didn't meet Q until after they agreed on the contract, I doubt the same entourage was there. I HIGHLY doubt Miles was there......



Those rumors about Baker were premature. As soon as Damp re visited NY, Thomas put all talks about Baker on hold. He has made it clear is Damp will sign for the MLE, he will get it. Baker is his backup plan.

 

[scoutmasterdave]

I have seen lots of talk about Marion for Ratliff & Miles, but without another player from the Suns, that will never work. Marion makes $11.3M this year, and Ratliff makes $10.9M. That leaves basically zero room for Miles to be included. We'd have to throw in Eisley (if Portland would bite) to give Miles enough salary that he'd agree to a sign-and-trade.

Phoenix gives: Marion, Eisley
Portland gives: Ratliff, Miles (S/T)

I do this trade if I'm the Suns, but I'm not sure Portland would go for it.

1: Nash/Barbosa
2: Johnson/Jacobsen
3: Richardson/Miles/Cabarkapa
4: Stoudemire/Lampe/Vroman
5: Ratliff/Voskuhl

I'm down...

 

[coloradosun]

Most likely Jacobsen, if Portland signs Pryzbilla the need for Voskuhl is eliminated. They have signed Richie Frahm but it is not guarenteed until after Sept 1st, if I recall correctly.

Jacobsen is the odd guy out with Q on board.

Miles could just sign his qualifying offer from Portland then be traded and sign a long term next summer with Phoenix.

 

[coloradosun]

Those rumors about Baker were premature. As soon as Damp re visited NY, Thomas put all talks about Baker on hold. He has made it clear is Damp will sign for the MLE, he will get it. Baker is his backup plan.

Not according to quotes directly from his agent " I would not settle for a minimum contract for my client, that's not negotiating." Sounds like he is going to hold Thomas to his word and supposedly the deal will be announced tommorrow. But this could turn out to be another Boozer-like situation, this time with the GM backing out of a commitment.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Did Goodwin reiterate those today? He made comments similar to that about a week ago.

Anyways, just because he wouldn't settle for the minimum doesn't mean the Knicks will give him more. It means that if the Knicks use their MLE on someone else, Baker will move on to another team.

If NY gets Damp, there will be no need for Baker anyways.

 

[coloradosun]

Did Goodwin reiterate those today? He made comments similar to that about a week ago.

Anyways, just because he wouldn't settle for the minimum doesn't mean the Knicks will give him more. It means that if the Knicks use their MLE on someone else, Baker will move on to another team.

If NY gets Damp, there will be no need for Baker anyways.

It was the same quote from last week where he said he had agreed to a 3.2M deal with the Knicks with Baker. So if Thomas was bluffing Goodwin was calling him out in the media. I think everyone has learned from the Boozer affair.