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Who's ignorant and what exactly is the crap your referring too? You must be referring to TH as the crap because thats what we saw last night CRAP! This SFG team is sorry to be quite honest they are easily worse than when we played them the first time this year, yet we ran the ball worse. Sure all you TH backers will try to spin it but facts are facts and we RAN the ball on them the first time and this time we couldn't do it hmmm wonder why. And I am not the ignorant one on here calling people names just calling out a crappy TH performance, after so many we crowning his ass after a decent game against one of the worst teams in football.
 

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Who's ignorant and what exactly is the crap your referring too? You must be referring to TH as the crap because thats what we saw last night CRAP! This SFG team is sorry to be quite honest they are easily worse than when we played them the first time this year, yet we ran the ball worse. Sure all you TH backers will try to spin it but facts are facts and we RAN the ball on them the first time and this time we couldn't do it hmmm wonder why. And I am not the ignorant one on here calling people names just calling out a crappy TH performance, after so many we crowning his ass after a decent game against one of the worst teams in football.


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Where are all the TH supporters today? How did our new RB look last night guys? Well I guess we can chalk last nights game up to the Monday night we always seem to have bad or badly officiated games on Mondays. Is there any way we can NOT play on Mondays, if this is what we get give me Sundays everytime. Man we have really got to play smarter the penalties are killing us. TH looked bad last night thank god Warner was as good as it gets!

Hightower looked awful, just like James did for the rest of the season.

Warner is unbelievable.
 

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We can agree on that cheese, Warner is playing MVP level if he finishes the season as it has went so far he has to be the MVP. God I hope we can keep him standing we could go along way on his arm with the WR we have! And yes TH looked awful but this game was a bit unusual hopefully he will pick it back up next game, all I am saying is the coaching staff has to see if something is not working try the other back or BOTH. If you have players use them don't just sit them.
 

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The draw will never work for Hightower because he is a downhill one cut and go runner. When you put him in the draw you ask him to become a stutter step look for a hole runner and that just isnt Hightower at all. Thats part of the reason why it looks so slow to develop. Plus our OL is not strong enough to hold blocks long enough for the draw to work. To run the draw you need at least have an average run blocking OL and we just dont have that.

We do know that Hightower is not the answer to our run game problems. It is without out a doubt an issue of our OL, specifically the right side which broke down way more times then they held up.

I am trying so hard not put the bust label on Levi Brown but after each game it is becoming harder and harder.
 

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We can agree on that cheese, Warner is playing MVP level if he finishes the season as it has went so far he has to be the MVP. God I hope we can keep him standing we could go along way on his arm with the WR we have! And yes TH looked awful but this game was a bit unusual hopefully he will pick it back up next game, all I am saying is the coaching staff has to see if something is not working try the other back or BOTH. If you have players use them don't just sit them.

i just don't know what using both gets us because unfortunately, they're VERY similar style backs, just one has a little more pop than the other. It's not like using them mixes it up like a thunder and lightning combo that the Giants have. I was more surprised we didn't see JJ get anything or use him the way we did against the Rams.
 

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The draw will never work for Hightower because he is a downhill one cut and go runner. When you put him in the draw you ask him to become a stutter step look for a hole runner and that just isnt Hightower at all. Thats part of the reason why it looks so slow to develop. Plus our OL is not strong enough to hold blocks long enough for the draw to work. To run the draw you need at least have an average run blocking OL and we just dont have that.

We do know that Hightower is not the answer to our run game problems. It is without out a doubt an issue of our OL, specifically the right side which broke down way more times then they held up.

I am trying so hard not put the bust label on Levi Brown but after each game it is becoming harder and harder.

Very, very concerning... Personally, I think it would help tremendously if he would just change his damm number... I can't even begin to describe the feeling everytime I hear, "False Start. Offense. #75."... :bang:
 

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Yeah they need to learn to throw a damn screen play JJ could I believe do well if he gets a little space seems to have a little open field awareness to make a play. They need to use all the backs if nothing else to keep them all fresh and into the offense just in case.
 

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The draw will never work for Hightower because he is a downhill one cut and go runner. When you put him in the draw you ask him to become a stutter step look for a hole runner and that just isnt Hightower at all. Thats part of the reason why it looks so slow to develop. Plus our OL is not strong enough to hold blocks long enough for the draw to work. To run the draw you need at least have an average run blocking OL and we just dont have that.

We do know that Hightower is not the answer to our run game problems. It is without out a doubt an issue of our OL, specifically the right side which broke down way more times then they held up.

I am trying so hard not put the bust label on Levi Brown but after each game it is becoming harder and harder.

At the very, very least, Vallejo and Brandon Keith are going to get a very long look at RT next offseason. More likely an ORG and/or ORT are drafted and the upgrade begins.
 

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That draw play has been useful to us before and will again. Last night, the 49ers decided they would take away our run game and they did.

Just like the Bears did to a far superior run game of the Titans. And the Titans oline is held in high regard. Should Tennessee fire all its linemen and throw out some plays from the playbook? The Titans won anyway, just like we did and it was almost as hard.

How about NYG utterly destroying Westbrook and the Eagles run game? And Philly still almost overcame it.

Sometimes, the other team has a good plan that works and the right matchups to make it work. Give credit where credit is due.

Haley got stubborn on the run just like Andy Reid did. And often, when coaches abandon a portion of their attack, in the face of obvious difficulties, they get ripped for not sticking with it. How often have you heard the truism "In order to run the ball, you need to keep running the ball"?

They did. Twice from inside our 3 and lost the game because of it.
 

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Yet when Carolina played tough D is was because Edge sucks, not that Carolina is a good team. The niners are terrible and still shut down TH and our run game should TH be benched now since he had a terrible performance? No and neither should Edge.
 

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Yet when Carolina played tough D is was because Edge sucks, not that Carolina is a good team.
huh? Almost everyone said something along the lines of "no shame in losing to the Panthers, that's a quality football team."
 

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Come on Pariah thats peoples reason for benching Edge many said his performance cost us the game.
 

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Come on Pariah thats peoples reason for benching Edge many said his performance cost us the game.
People's reason for benching Edge is that he's too slow to be an every down back in the NFL anymore.
 

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Sometimes, the other team has a good plan that works and the right matchups to make it work. Give credit where credit is due.

I think I would agree in the case of the Titans and Philly cases. But in our case it doesnt apply IMO. It doesnt apply because our run game has been bad all season, not the case for Philly or the Titans.
 

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Cheese even went as far to say the last 3 games Edge played in (Buffalo, Dallas, Carolina) the offense wasn't as good as the last 2 (Rams, Niners). Seriously thats just nuts, no crap the numbers would be better against the 2 pathetic team rather than the 3 quality teams when we played them.
 

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How many straws you guys gonna give TH just curious? a few more 20 yrd games gonna do it for you? We got lucky to win that game actually SF did more at the end to lose it than we did to win it. It was a team effort to almost lose but the 22yrds from TH was a big part of that as we couldn't even pick up a 3rd and short to wrap it up.
 

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Cheese even went as far to say the last 3 games Edge played in (Buffalo, Dallas, Carolina) the offense wasn't as good as the last 2 (Rams, Niners). Seriously thats just nuts, no crap the numbers would be better against the 2 pathetic team rather than the 3 quality teams when we played them.

Niners are a top 6 run defense (YPC)
Rams are a one of the worst.

Buffalo is a top 8 run defense (YPC)
Carolina is average
Dallas is below average

Not really the disparity you are making it out to be.
 

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How many straws you guys gonna give TH just curious? a few more 20 yrd games gonna do it for you? We got lucky to win that game actually SF did more at the end to lose it than we did to win it. It was a team effort to almost lose but the 22yrds from TH was a big part of that as we couldn't even pick up a 3rd and short to wrap it up.

What does it matter how many straws he gets. Edge got plenty of them so whats the point in putting a number on it for Hightower. He had a bad game no one is saying any different.

Not sure why you think Edge would have done any better considering his lack of performance and lack of being able to get the 1st downs the the beginning of this season.
 

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Cheese even went as far to say the last 3 games Edge played in (Buffalo, Dallas, Carolina) the offense wasn't as good as the last 2 (Rams, Niners). Seriously thats just nuts, no crap the numbers would be better against the 2 pathetic team rather than the 3 quality teams when we played them.

where did I say anything about the O versus Buffalo? I didn't. I listed Edge's numbers in therre to ask why... ah forget it. if you're going to start lying or misrepresenting what I'm saying and your going to call me nuts and my numbers/opinions are crap we're done, as usual.
 
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