I just don't get...

[TheCardFan]

You are so right, red desert. Let's just revel in the team's success and leave it at that.

Agreed.

Just because other teams win without class, doesn't mean when we finally get our chance, we have to act that way.

I went to both playoff games (Dallas/Minny) in 1998. I hate the Cowboys and their fans, who are some of the most arrogant and rude around....But, after taking **** walking into the stadium with my Cardinal jersey on, I didn't have to say jack on the way out. The scoreboard and their faces said it all.

Don't get me wrong, I rooted, cheered, yelled, and friendly taunted during the game but all in a fun way. Plenty of fans are like that and very few take it to the extreme (but they are usually the ones we remember).

The next week, I expected the same in Minny. Maybe it was so cold, they couldn't get rude (-20), but they were nice and had fun taunting in a normal way.

It's the young thugs that act like a football game is a gang war and the older guys who are trying to live out their football fantasies they missed out on....who ruin it for everyone else.

Along with our new team, new stadium, new coach, and new results, why not set a new standard for how fans act?

 

[TheCardFan]

And next time you are reveling in the teams success and another teams fans throws food or drinks at you or calls your wife a bitch because you are a Cards fan then lets see how you act.

That is an extreme situation and I doubt it has happened to very many people at our home games.

I am sure if it did happen, the person and his wife were not just sitting in their seats enjoying a game and minded their own business. Issues like that usually escalate.

What you are saying is because they act that way, then it's ok for you to do the same. And it's not.

If that happened to me, I would handle the situation but I would not then think it's ok for me in the future to act in a similar way due to being treated that way myself.

 

[DeAnna]

Did anyone hear Coach Whiz's post game talk in the locker room? He told them the same thing: "stay humble and be respectful." Just 'cuz they are on top of the division doesn't mean they should all go around talking smack to everyone else.

For all we know, I could change by next week.

 

[cardsfanmd]

We are talking about football. There isn't much class in a game where you are tackling people. Teams play home and away games for a reason. You are supposed to have an advantage when you are at home. That means you are supposed to yell and scream as loud as you can when the opposing team is on O and try to disrupt what they want to do. That is the opposite of classy, isn't it? I am sorry, but I have never had someone tell me to be more classy at a football game, and if the had I would have been prompt in telling them to blow me. This discussion is not good IMO. A BIG reason that the Cardinals have sucked so bad since coming to Arizona is that they have had such a weak and quiet fan base. I am not trying to put anyone down out there, but it is true. We had a crap stadium out in the heat and had to open the season with 4-5 games on the road and then came home just to find that we were still on the road because our fans were still outnumbered and outperformed as a whole IN ARIZONA. IMO its about time we are making our guys feel comfortable at home.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I guess I was somewhat off topic there ( just went back to finally read the first page). Oops my bad. But I talk smack too, who cares. It is football, and it is a joke. I love talking smack with other fans and never take it personally. If some people do and let it affect their lives its their own problem for being weak little crybabies.

 

[Phxchris1989]

We are talking about football. There isn't much class in a game where you are tackling people. Teams play home and away games for a reason. You are supposed to have an advantage when you are at home. That means you are supposed to yell and scream as loud as you can when the opposing team is on O and try to disrupt what they want to do. That is the opposite of classy, isn't it? I am sorry, but I have never had someone tell me to be more classy at a football game, and if the had I would have been prompt in telling them to blow me. This discussion is not good IMO. A BIG reason that the Cardinals have sucked so bad since coming to Arizona is that they have had such a weak and quiet fan base. I am not trying to put anyone down out there, but it is true. We had a crap stadium out in the heat and had to open the season with 4-5 games on the road and then came home just to find that we were still on the road because our fans were still outnumbered and outperformed as a whole IN ARIZONA. IMO its about time we are making our guys feel comfortable at home.

heh, Marylanders think alike I see. I was born in Hagerstown BTW.

 

[TheCardFan]

We are talking about football. There isn't much class in a game where you are tackling people. Teams play home and away games for a reason. You are supposed to have an advantage when you are at home. That means you are supposed to yell and scream as loud as you can when the opposing team is on O and try to disrupt what they want to do. That is the opposite of classy, isn't it?

I agree with most of this part but you can do both.

We are not talking about the type of class where royalty golf clapped with white gloves while drinking tea.

We should yell, we should be loud, we should taunt, we should have fun.

We should follow the lead of the team.

Do you see Coach Whis running accross the field to meet the losing coach at midfield...pointing his finger, laughing, taunting, screaming curse words at the other team and HC?

Do you see our players doing similar? No.

After the game, there is a certain level of respect for the game and it's players.

It's mostly the fans that take it to an ugly level that it is unnecessary.

 

[red desert]

Agreed.

Just because other teams win without class, doesn't mean when we finally get our chance, we have to act that way.

I went to both playoff games (Dallas/Minny) in 1998. I hate the Cowboys and their fans, who are some of the most arrogant and rude around....But, after taking **** walking into the stadium with my Cardinal jersey on, I didn't have to say jack on the way out. The scoreboard and their faces said it all.

Don't get me wrong, I rooted, cheered, yelled, and friendly taunted during the game but all in a fun way. Plenty of fans are like that and very few take it to the extreme (but they are usually the ones we remember).

The next week, I expected the same in Minny. Maybe it was so cold, they couldn't get rude (-20), but they were nice and had fun taunting in a normal way.

It's the young thugs that act like a football game is a gang war and the older guys who are trying to live out their football fantasies they missed out on....who ruin it for everyone else.

Along with our new team, new stadium, new coach, and new results, why not set a new standard for how fans act?

That's all I am saying. Only you said it in a more eloquent manner.

Kudos to you.

 

[red desert]

Did anyone hear Coach Whiz's post game talk in the locker room? He told them the same thing: "stay humble and be respectful." Just 'cuz they are on top of the division doesn't mean they should all go around talking smack to everyone else.

For all we know, I could change by next week.

I hadn't heard that. Thanks for sharing.

 

[red desert]

I agree with most of this part but you can do both.

We are not talking about the type of class where royalty golf clapped with white gloves while drinking tea.

We should yell, we should be loud, we should taunt, we should have fun.

We should follow the lead of the team.

Do you see Coach Whis running accross the field to meet the losing coach at midfield...pointing his finger, laughing, taunting, screaming curse words at the other team and HC?

Do you see our players doing similar? No.

After the game, there is a certain level of respect for the game and it's players.

It's mostly the fans that take it to an ugly level that it is unnecessary

That's it. You are now my favorite poster.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I agree with most of this part but you can do both.

We are not talking about the type of class where royalty golf clapped with white gloves while drinking tea.

We should yell, we should be loud, we should taunt, we should have fun.

We should follow the lead of the team.

Do you see Coach Whis running accross the field to meet the losing coach at midfield...pointing his finger, laughing, taunting, screaming curse words at the other team and HC?

Do you see our players doing similar? No.

After the game, there is a certain level of respect for the game and it's players.

It's mostly the fans that take it to an ugly level that it is unnecessary.

Oh I agree with that. I dont talk after the game is over. There is no point. I also try not to curse, being as there are so many kids at the games. My point that I was trying to make is that I refuse to sit and be quiet while fans from the opposing teams go off. And if they are dumb enough to think that they cant come out of their mouth wrong to me they find out real quick what the deal is. Maybe I am just too damn competive for some people, but to me there is no such thing.

 

[cardsfanmd]

heh, Marylanders think alike I see. I was born in Hagerstown BTW.

Good stuff. Now what you need to do is come on home for week 7 in Washington and get crazy with all of us that are going.

 

[TheCardFan]

That's it. You are now my favorite poster.

Wow...that is a first.

Thanks Red Desert!

 

[red desert]

Wow...that is a first.

Thanks Red Desert!

My pleasure. By the way, too bad for the Longhorns, huh? They are my favorite college team. Love the helmets.

 

[TheCardFan]

My pleasure. By the way, too bad for the Longhorns, huh? They are my favorite college team. Love the helmets.

Not a fun year...they have been struggling in every game.

 

[Phxchris1989]

Good stuff. Now what you need to do is come on home for week 7 in Washington and get crazy with all of us that are going.

I wish I could, but I can't . I'll have to watch them beat up my old team from back here in AZ.

 

[justAndy]

Packer fans were nice in SDS.
Panther fans were decent.
Other fans to one degree or another have enough arrogant aggressive "fans" that I can't help but hate.
Raider "fans" are a SUB-species of their own...
However - I have pulled a fellow Cardinal fan off of a Cowboys fan that he had knocked out cold and was still hitting - even Cowboy fans are human beings, you know...
I always enjoy telling the out of town enemy fans to "enjoy the boxcar ride back to your (insert descriptive to fit the city) crapopolis."

 

[moklerman]

That means you are supposed to yell and scream as loud as you can when the opposing team is on O and try to disrupt what they want to do. That is the opposite of classy, isn't it? I am sorry, but I have never had someone tell me to be more classy at a football game, and if the had I would have been prompt in telling them to blow me.

Yeah, other fans are rude and classless but Cardinal fans...

If some people do and let it affect their lives its their own problem for being weak little crybabies.

Bring the kids folks!

It's mostly the fans that take it to an ugly level that it is unnecessary.

Truer words were never spoken. Until your own fans carry themselves with dignity and respect can other team's fans be criticized. That's just one reason to be, or act, decent when in a crowd.

My point that I was trying to make is that I refuse to sit and be quiet while fans from the opposing teams go off. And if they are dumb enough to think that they cant come out of their mouth wrong to me they find out real quick what the deal is.

I'm curious where "be quiet" is suggested as a way of being classy in this thread? But, just to be clear, when you talk smack it's harmless but when someone else does it to you you're going to, apparently, take it personally and show them "what the deal is"?