I knwo compromise is easy. But I call BS!

[Shane]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11642485

NFL should have left scheduling how it was. Are you gonna change every game now if some other religion could be interfered with by gametime? DUMB!

 

[Mulli]

Courteous. Why not?

 

[Jersey Girl]

I think the fact that the Jets have games on two consecutive Jewish holidays is something to consider, especially since the New York area has a large Jewish community. I don't think it is unreasonable, especially since it is early and the league already reserves the right to change game times with little notice at the end of the season.

 

[Shane]

Sports are played on almost all religions major holidays. The NFL shouldnt have to consider nor should they consider any of them when they make the schedule.

If your religion is that important to you then dont go to the game. New York has how many millions of people? They will find enough people to put their butts in the seats.

This wreaks of "commissioner 50% of our luxury boxes are owned by the jewish community, could we please change this to appease them?"

Courteous and easy? Yes. But still shouldnt be done IMHO.

But Im a hard azz.

 

[Jersey Girl]

I was curious about Christmas Day games, so, from wikipedia ...

Christmas and Christmas Eve games
For more details on this topic, see National Football League Christmas games.
In recent years, the NFL has generally scheduled games on Christmas only if it falls on a day normally used for games (Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday). If Christmas falls on a Sunday, as it did in 2005, most of the games will be played on the preceding day (with no games that night or the following afternoon in deference to the holiday), and then one or two games are scheduled for Christmas Night to be broadcast nationally. One game would be held over for the regular Monday night slot and one would already have been played on Thursday. Through the 2006 season, there have been 14 such Christmas contests.

The first NFL games actually played on December 25 came after the merger during the 1971 season. The first two games of the Divisional Playoff Round were held on Christmas Day. However, the second of the two contests played that day, the Miami Dolphins versus the Kansas City Chiefs, wound up being the longest game in NFL history.[18] Because of the length of this game, the league received numerous complaints, reportedly because it caused havoc with Christmas dinners around the nation. As a result, the NFL decided to not schedule any Christmas Day matches for the 17 years that followed.

The NFL continued to avoid Christmas even after it started to increase the regular season and the playoffs. The league expanded to a 16-game regular season and a 10-team playoff tournament in 1978, but it was not until 1982 that the regular season ended after Christmas, due to the player's strike. Finally, in 1989, the NFL tried another Christmas Day game, the Cincinnati Bengals at the Minnesota Vikings, but it was a 9 p.m. ET Monday Night Football contest, thereby avoiding interfering with family dinners. In the years since, the NFL has played an occasional late-afternoon or night game on the holiday; but there has not been a Christmas Day game starting earlier than 5 p.m. ET since 1971.

There have also been several games played on Christmas Eve over the years, the most famous of these being a Oakland Raiders-Baltimore Colts playoff contest in 1977 which culminated in a play immortalized as "Ghost to the Post". These games have typically been played during the afternoon out of deference to the holiday. If Christmas Day falls on a Sunday, then most of the weekend's NFL games will be on the afternoon of Christmas Eve, except for a few games held over for the Sunday and Monday TV packages.

In 2007, television contract obligations led to the league scheduling its first prime-time Christmas Eve game, when the Denver Broncos met the San Diego Chargers in San Diego on December 24, which happened to be a Monday. This game started at 5 P.M. local time (8 P.M. Eastern), and both teams were from the western United States.

Based upon current television contracts, the next Christmas game will take place during the 2009 NFL season. Whether it will be on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day has yet to be announced.

 

[Mulli]

What is so special about the original game times? U suck shane.

 

[Shane]

What is so special about the original game times? U suck shane.

Fits better with my schedule!

 

[82CardsGrad]

What is so special about the original game times? U suck shane.

Yea... and he thinks young WR's don't need mentors.... You suck Shane.

 

[Shane]

Yea... and he thinks young WR's don't need mentors.... You suck Shane.

They have them. They are called coaches. :iwin:

 

[Mulli]

Yea... and he thinks young WR's don't need mentors.... You suck Shane.

I would pass on armani tumor as well.

 

[Shane]

I would pass on armani tumor as well.

You rule!

 

[Mulli]

They have them. They are called coaches. :iwin:

And Larry.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Fits better with my schedule!

Big Jets-Titans fan?

 

[azsportsfan01]

I know you weren't comparing Christmas to Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur but the differences are huge. These 2 holidays are the holiest on the jewish calander. You are supposed to fast on Yom Kippur. As it is stated in the articles the Giants and Jets have always shared the brunt of this problem by each playing only once if at all at home on these days. It was a complete oversight by the NFL and as a jew I am happy they made this change. New York has the largest population of jews, so why alienate a large portion of your audience?

I was curious about Christmas Day games, so, from wikipedia ...

Christmas and Christmas Eve games
For more details on this topic, see National Football League Christmas games.
In recent years, the NFL has generally scheduled games on Christmas only if it falls on a day normally used for games (Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday). If Christmas falls on a Sunday, as it did in 2005, most of the games will be played on the preceding day (with no games that night or the following afternoon in deference to the holiday), and then one or two games are scheduled for Christmas Night to be broadcast nationally. One game would be held over for the regular Monday night slot and one would already have been played on Thursday. Through the 2006 season, there have been 14 such Christmas contests.

The first NFL games actually played on December 25 came after the merger during the 1971 season. The first two games of the Divisional Playoff Round were held on Christmas Day. However, the second of the two contests played that day, the Miami Dolphins versus the Kansas City Chiefs, wound up being the longest game in NFL history.[18] Because of the length of this game, the league received numerous complaints, reportedly because it caused havoc with Christmas dinners around the nation. As a result, the NFL decided to not schedule any Christmas Day matches for the 17 years that followed.

The NFL continued to avoid Christmas even after it started to increase the regular season and the playoffs. The league expanded to a 16-game regular season and a 10-team playoff tournament in 1978, but it was not until 1982 that the regular season ended after Christmas, due to the player's strike. Finally, in 1989, the NFL tried another Christmas Day game, the Cincinnati Bengals at the Minnesota Vikings, but it was a 9 p.m. ET Monday Night Football contest, thereby avoiding interfering with family dinners. In the years since, the NFL has played an occasional late-afternoon or night game on the holiday; but there has not been a Christmas Day game starting earlier than 5 p.m. ET since 1971.

There have also been several games played on Christmas Eve over the years, the most famous of these being a Oakland Raiders-Baltimore Colts playoff contest in 1977 which culminated in a play immortalized as "Ghost to the Post". These games have typically been played during the afternoon out of deference to the holiday. If Christmas Day falls on a Sunday, then most of the weekend's NFL games will be on the afternoon of Christmas Eve, except for a few games held over for the Sunday and Monday TV packages.

In 2007, television contract obligations led to the league scheduling its first prime-time Christmas Eve game, when the Denver Broncos met the San Diego Chargers in San Diego on December 24, which happened to be a Monday. This game started at 5 P.M. local time (8 P.M. Eastern), and both teams were from the western United States.

Based upon current television contracts, the next Christmas game will take place during the 2009 NFL season. Whether it will be on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day has yet to be announced.

 

[Shane]

I know you weren't comparing Christmas to Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur but the differences are huge. These 2 holidays are the holiest on the jewish calander. You are supposed to fast on Yom Kippur. As it is stated in the articles the Giants and Jets have always shared the brunt of this problem by each playing only once if at all at home on these days. It was a complete oversight by the NFL and as a jew I am happy they made this change. New York has the largest population of jews, so why alienate a large portion of your audience?

So dont eat at the game?

I mean really what does it matter if you are home by 5-6 or 8-9?

 

[Jersey Girl]

I know you weren't comparing Christmas to Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur but the differences are huge. These 2 holidays are the holiest on the jewish calander. You are supposed to fast on Yom Kippur. As it is stated in the articles the Giants and Jets have always shared the brunt of this problem by each playing only once if at all at home on these days. It was a complete oversight by the NFL and as a jew I am happy they made this change. New York has the largest population of jews, so why alienate a large portion of your audience?

I would venture to say that many Christians would consider Easter and Christmas to be the holiest holidays for them, in that order, which is why I looked into the Christmas thing. Perhaps it seems less so because many people celebrate the holidays without celebrating the religious meaning behind them.

Regardless, I think the NFL did the right thing. That was really the point of my posts in this thread.

 

[Jersey Girl]

So dont eat at the game?

I mean really what does it matter if you are home by 5-6 or 8-9?

They are trying to be senstive to their audience. I think it's smart of any organization or business to do that.

 

[Shane]

They are trying to be senstive to their audience. I think it's smart of any organization or business to do that.

That doesnt really answer the ?.... Its not like 4PM is late. How does that appease their holiday issues? I mean really? "Were ok to go to a game on our holiday buuuut We must do it 2 hours and 45 minutes earlier for our sensabilities?"

 

[Second Deck]

I was curious about Christmas Day games, so, from wikipedia ...

Christmas and Christmas Eve games
For more details on this topic, see National Football League Christmas games.
In recent years, the NFL has generally scheduled games on Christmas only if it falls on a day normally used for games (Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday). If Christmas falls on a Sunday, as it did in 2005, most of the games will be played on the preceding day (with no games that night or the following afternoon in deference to the holiday), and then one or two games are scheduled for Christmas Night to be broadcast nationally. One game would be held over for the regular Monday night slot and one would already have been played on Thursday. Through the 2006 season, there have been 14 such Christmas contests.

The first NFL games actually played on December 25 came after the merger during the 1971 season. The first two games of the Divisional Playoff Round were held on Christmas Day. However, the second of the two contests played that day, the Miami Dolphins versus the Kansas City Chiefs, wound up being the longest game in NFL history.[18] Because of the length of this game, the league received numerous complaints, reportedly because it caused havoc with Christmas dinners around the nation. As a result, the NFL decided to not schedule any Christmas Day matches for the 17 years that followed.

The NFL continued to avoid Christmas even after it started to increase the regular season and the playoffs. The league expanded to a 16-game regular season and a 10-team playoff tournament in 1978, but it was not until 1982 that the regular season ended after Christmas, due to the player's strike. Finally, in 1989, the NFL tried another Christmas Day game, the Cincinnati Bengals at the Minnesota Vikings, but it was a 9 p.m. ET Monday Night Football contest, thereby avoiding interfering with family dinners. In the years since, the NFL has played an occasional late-afternoon or night game on the holiday; but there has not been a Christmas Day game starting earlier than 5 p.m. ET since 1971.

There have also been several games played on Christmas Eve over the years, the most famous of these being a Oakland Raiders-Baltimore Colts playoff contest in 1977 which culminated in a play immortalized as "Ghost to the Post". These games have typically been played during the afternoon out of deference to the holiday. If Christmas Day falls on a Sunday, then most of the weekend's NFL games will be on the afternoon of Christmas Eve, except for a few games held over for the Sunday and Monday TV packages.

In 2007, television contract obligations led to the league scheduling its first prime-time Christmas Eve game, when the Denver Broncos met the San Diego Chargers in San Diego on December 24, which happened to be a Monday. This game started at 5 P.M. local time (8 P.M. Eastern), and both teams were from the western United States.

Based upon current television contracts, the next Christmas game will take place during the 2009 NFL season. Whether it will be on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day has yet to be announced.

Interesting I was at the KC and Miami game because a guys wife would not let him go to the game on Christmas Day. I will always remember that game. Yepremian(sp) and Steinrude both missed chip shot field goals.

 

[Shane]

Interesting I was at the KC and Miami game because a guys wife would not let him go to the game on Christmas Day. I will always remember that game. Yepremian(sp) and Steinrude both missed chip shot field goals.

Now I know why Ive been divorced.

 

[Jersey Girl]

That doesnt really answer the ?.... Its not like 4PM is late. How does that appease their holiday issues? I mean really? "Were ok to go to a game on our holiday buuuut We must do it 2 hours and 45 minutes earlier for our sensabilities?"

I guess it gives people an option. I mean, having a game later in the day perhaps allows people to attend services or ceremonies early, I guess, though I don't know if that is true. I don't know how Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashana are celebrated, but azsportsfans01 says it was a good move and, since he is Jewish, I will defer to his opinion.

I know I was kinda ticked about four or five years ago when the Cards played the Eagles on Christmas Eve. I missed the game to go to church. We won, from what I recall. I don't regret my decision.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Interesting I was at the KC and Miami game because a guys wife would not let him go to the game on Christmas Day. I will always remember that game. Yepremian(sp) and Steinrude both missed chip shot field goals.

Now I know why men bitch about marriage.

 

[azsportsfan01]

So dont eat at the game?

I mean really what does it matter if you are home by 5-6 or 8-9?

There is a very big difference. Jewish holidays begin at sundown. Once Yom Kippur starts you aren't allowed to do: (this is just a small list of laws most jews follow)
You aren't allowed eat, drink, wash, anoint (makeup), wear shoes, and to have marital relations. Washing is not allowed only for pleasure reasons. If you get dirty then you are allowed to wash. Technically you aren't allowed to travel on Yom Kippur and that has been interpreted by many that you aren't supposed to drive, which would put people in quite a pickle being out in New Jersey needing to get back to the city.

 

[CardLogic]

I agree with the NFL accomodating the Jets request, and the Jets understanding and respecting their fans.

I know you weren't comparing Christmas to Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur but the differences are huge. These 2 holidays are the holiest on the jewish calander.

Pssst! Your ignorance is showing!

 

[Linderbee]

That doesnt really answer the ?.... Its not like 4PM is late. How does that appease their holiday issues? I mean really? "Were ok to go to a game on our holiday buuuut We must do it 2 hours and 45 minutes earlier for our sensabilities?"

Like the article said, it allows people to get home by sundown, which is extremely important.