Originally posted by Errntknght
I'd be interested to hear what you guys who trust the Cs think their vision is for the team they are assembling. Lets recall when Kidd was the supposed cornerstone they didn't put together anything resembling a fast break team to fit with his game, and got a coach who liked grind-it-out-in-the-halfcourt offense. Then they brought in Marbury and didn't get the high post C or PF that would have complemented his game nor spot up shooters. Oddly enough they started finding guys for the running game and brought in a coach who's strategy was to implement the motion offense.
History thus tells us that if we can trust the Colangeli, it's to not to have a clue about what they are putting together here.
I'm not bummed about the trade because the team is shedding two bad contracts - Penny's now and Marbs' in the future. And, heck, there is an outside chance that D'Antoni has a plan which this trade is part of. I mean, the Suns could jump into an international league where they'd probably be a champion of something, right?
One thing I'd like to say about the plan is this. No one really has a plan. You don't know who will be available in free agency or sign with you, you don't know who will fall to you in the draft nor where you will be picking. You just have a general outline, and a pool of players you would like to acquire somehow. The suns have been very creative over the years doing this.
The one thing about business plans is this...If you have one longer than 2 years without changing it, you are well the cardinals of the past (hopefully...please). Business plans change. They may want Kobe, or someone else...but what kind of plan besides trades can you expect the Suns to have in order to get better when you can't sign any free agents. We've had to build through the draft and trades, which they've done well with.
Sometimes they take a step back, sometimes a step foward, sometimes they flip-flop, but either way we have a VERY, VERY young talented team now. Like the clippers, but without the losing attitude, knowing you won't get re-signed, and without the bust picks.
You gotta seize the moment sometimes, and the Suns do that. They are not afraid to take risks, and I applaud them for doing that as an organization.
The only thing I don't like about the trade is the unknown potential factor of some of these guys and the picks.
We could suck it up, we could have a team deeper than the lakers of this year...and younger too. But of course the potential we have needs to be realized, but it looks like we have guys that have good shots at doing it. Everyone of our young guys shows you something special...It's not like Wendally Bryant on the cards who hasn't showed me one single thing yet. Barbosa, Z, Amare, Marion, Joe Johnson, jacobsen, etc all have big time! Add in the two euro guys from the knicks, two first round picks, plus a probable better one (ours), and the cap space to possibly get a kobe or some other top flight....and although the chance to be an elite team is not certain, it does look better "potentially" than it did at the beginning of the season, and definitely better than any other team in the league that currently isn't an elite team.
Of course it could take a couple years, but once again they are retooling with the ebb and flow of the western conference and the lakers. When we get good in 1-3 years shaq will probably be slowing down, if we get kobe...a big if....the lakers won't be the same.
The flexibility they add to this team, with the potential factor added in could easily swing this into the most lopsided trade ever in the nba. This is a Herschel walker to minnesota trade possibly.
We just have to draft our emmit and I think darren woodsen out of these 2 picks.
We have to hope our 18 years old lottery lampe was worth such speculation and if milos is the next nash, a milos straight up for marbury might end up making it even alone. Throw in everything else like lampe and picks, and even if everything doesn't turn out right it still has a huge % to be at least even. Eisley and McDeuche are just toppings, and they are not anchovies.
But like I said on the BIG TRADE thread, I just don't know what to think yet.