Ian Rapoport Dhop trade likely happening in the next ten days

BirdGangThing

Cultist
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
16,556
Reaction score
22,719
Location
Arcadia
Right Sir. DHop runs the roster.
OMG lemme make this as simple as possible for you

With Dhop saying he's not playing in Arizona anymore no matter what... it doesn't just hurt his chances of getting a big new pay day somewhere else - it also gives other GMs every advantage in the world because they know Az doesn't want to pay Dhop millions of dollars to sit out and pout. This isn't very hard to understand and has happened a million times in the NFL and other sports too. Dhop was even acting as his own agent until recently - which consisted of him bad mouthing the Cardinals which is also a big red flag for other interested parties

This really isn't that hard to understand, but I'm guessing you're purposely trying not to understand it so you can continue using that dorky ass "3rd choice GM" phrase you'll never have to get trademarked
 

ASUCHRIS

ONE HEART BEAT!!!
Joined
Sep 2, 2002
Posts
16,672
Reaction score
15,023
OMG lemme make this as simple as possible for you

With Dhop saying he's not playing in Arizona anymore no matter what... it doesn't just hurt his chances of getting a big new pay day somewhere else - it also gives other GMs every advantage in the world because they know Az doesn't want to pay Dhop millions of dollars to sit out and pout. This isn't very hard to understand and has happened a million times in the NFL and other sports too. Dhop was even acting as his own agent until recently - which consisted of him bad mouthing the Cardinals which is also a big red flag for other interested parties

This really isn't that hard to understand, but I'm guessing you're purposely trying not to understand it so you can continue using that dorky ass "3rd choice GM" phrase you'll never have to get trademarked
Just curious, does player management fall under the purview of a "General Manager"?
 

ASUCHRIS

ONE HEART BEAT!!!
Joined
Sep 2, 2002
Posts
16,672
Reaction score
15,023
Dhop wanted gone long before Monti got here lol
That's not what I asked. Is managing the players part of the job of the GM? Didn't Monti meet with Nuk? If the end result of the Hopkins maneuverings is a terrible deal for the Cards, that's all on Hopkins and Monti is blameless?
 

QuebecCard

ASFN Addict
Joined
Mar 12, 2021
Posts
5,975
Reaction score
8,411
Location
North of the 49th.
OMG lemme make this as simple as possible for you

With Dhop saying he's not playing in Arizona anymore no matter what... it doesn't just hurt his chances of getting a big new pay day somewhere else - it also gives other GMs every advantage in the world because they know Az doesn't want to pay Dhop millions of dollars to sit out and pout. This isn't very hard to understand and has happened a million times in the NFL and other sports too. Dhop was even acting as his own agent until recently - which consisted of him bad mouthing the Cardinals which is also a big red flag for other interested parties

This really isn't that hard to understand, but I'm guessing you're purposely trying not to understand it so you can continue using that dorky ass "3rd choice GM" phrase you'll never have to get trademarked

It shouldn't be hard to give us the quotes.

We'll wait... :beer:
 

BirdGangThing

Cultist
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
16,556
Reaction score
22,719
Location
Arcadia
That's not what I asked. Is managing the players part of the job of the GM? Didn't Monti meet with Nuk? If the end result of the Hopkins maneuverings is a terrible deal for the Cards, that's all on Hopkins and Monti is blameless?
I'm saying if you look at the timeline Dhop was gone before Monti ever got here, and that Dhop had zero interest in playing on this team or finishing out his contract - I think it was Monti who talked Dhop into finally getting an agent as it would help both Dhop and the Cardinals move on from each other - which is exactly what I would've done
 

BirdGangThing

Cultist
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
16,556
Reaction score
22,719
Location
Arcadia
It shouldn't be hard to give us the quotes.

We'll wait... :beer:
He actually said it directly after a yoga class right here in central Phx, Arcadia to be exact - and Dhop also said our quarterback sucks. If he said it here he's likely saying it everywhere, yes?
 

ASUCHRIS

ONE HEART BEAT!!!
Joined
Sep 2, 2002
Posts
16,672
Reaction score
15,023
I'm saying if you look at the timeline Dhop was gone before Monti ever got here, and that Dhop had zero interest in playing on this team or finishing out his contract
Totally agree here!
- I think it was Monti who talked Dhop into finally getting an agent
I hadn't heard anything about this...Hop has an agent now?
as it would help both Dhop and the Cardinals move on from each other - which is exactly what I would've done
Well sure, a divorce was always in the Cards. We'll judge Monti on the return he's able to get, right? Looking so far that he's overplaying his hand, but maybe he has a trick up his sleeve.
 

BirdGangThing

Cultist
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
16,556
Reaction score
22,719
Location
Arcadia
Sorry, no. If he gets cut it is an awful administrative move. The situation sucks? Monti can put on a helmet and get the job done. He accepted the job; now he has to actually do it well.
I don't think Dhop is getting cut

I think Dhop grossly and unintentionally sabotaged his current value in the NFL

As for Monti, he should probably wait it out until a contender loses a WR and is as desperate as we are
 

BirdGangThing

Cultist
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
16,556
Reaction score
22,719
Location
Arcadia
Totally agree here!

I hadn't heard anything about this...Hop has an agent now?

Well sure, a divorce was always in the Cards. We'll judge Monti on the return he's able to get, right? Looking so far that he's overplaying his hand, but maybe he has a trick up his sleeve.
"The wideout added that he hired an agent “to help me not get the short end of the stick.”

 

Rivercard

Too much good stuff
Joined
Jul 2, 2003
Posts
29,696
Reaction score
17,762
Location
Is everything
"the short end of the stick.”

I've never understood this phrase. Is there a long end of the stick? How can a stick have both a long end and a short end? If you break it then you would have 2 sticks, one might be the short straw I guess, but that's a whole different phrase!
 

QuebecCard

ASFN Addict
Joined
Mar 12, 2021
Posts
5,975
Reaction score
8,411
Location
North of the 49th.
OMG lemme make this as simple as possible for you

With Dhop saying he's not playing in Arizona anymore no matter what... it doesn't just hurt his chances of getting a big new pay day somewhere else - it also gives other GMs every advantage in the world because they know Az doesn't want to pay Dhop millions of dollars to sit out and pout. This isn't very hard to understand and has happened a million times in the NFL and other sports too. Dhop was even acting as his own agent until recently - which consisted of him bad mouthing the Cardinals which is also a big red flag for other interested parties

This really isn't that hard to understand, but I'm guessing you're purposely trying not to understand it so you can continue using that dorky ass "3rd choice GM" phrase you'll never have to get trademarked

So the guy who lost $5m+ as a result of his 6-game suspension will pass on his $19m salary in 2023?

'OMG lemme make this as simple as possible for you.'

This is a fantasy!

P.S. the CARDS can do a simple restructure of his deal and save $9m against the Cap in 2023 and postpone any decision in his case to 2024.
 

BirdGangThing

Cultist
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
16,556
Reaction score
22,719
Location
Arcadia
1) So the guy who lost $5m+ as a result of his 6-game suspension will pass on his $19m salary in 2023?

2) 'OMG lemme make this as simple as possible for you.'

This is a fantasy!

3) P.S. the CARDS can do a simple restructure of his deal and save $9m against the Cap in 2023 and postpone any decision in his case to 2024.
lmao

1) Dhop doesn't want to miss out on any money - Dhop wants a trade and even more money, tried to strongarm his way into getting it all but reality and a league full of talent had other plans

2) I've been pretty damn clear lol

3) Now you get it! Somebody give Quebec a cookie!
 

QuebecCard

ASFN Addict
Joined
Mar 12, 2021
Posts
5,975
Reaction score
8,411
Location
North of the 49th.
lmao

1) Dhop doesn't want to miss out on any money - Dhop wants a trade and even more money, tried to strongarm his way into getting it all but reality and a league full of talent had other plans

2) I've been pretty damn clear lol

3) Now you get it! Somebody give Quebec a cookie!

Clear and more than a bit confused, true.

If Dhop sits out the Cards save $19m in salary and still retain his contractual rights.

Don't know how this is going to end, but I'll sleep certain that you don't either.

Unlike the Cookie Monster, "Me don't want cookie!"
 
Top