If Murray Was Your Guy...

[Stout]

...why in the ever-loving effing EFF wouldn't you trade Rosen BEFORE the pick? As soon as you make that pick, his value plummets through the floor. We traded up last year to trade BACK for 2nd or 3rd rounder this year...we HOPE!

I mean, love the Murray pick or hate the Murray pick, this is just head-scratching idiocy.

 

[Broseph]

because teams were probably offering 3rd or 4th round picks for him.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Cards were never getting a first. Still lots of trade partners available. Broncos, Raiders, Chargers, Pats, Dolphins.

 

[slanidrac16]

We over-valued Rosen. We played poker and at this point we are not winning.

 

[Stout]

because teams were probably offering 3rd or 4th round picks for him.

...which will only become 5th or 6th rounders now that we HAVE to trade him.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

...why in the ever-loving effing EFF wouldn't you trade Rosen BEFORE the pick? As soon as you make that pick, his value plummets through the floor. We traded up last year to trade BACK for 2nd or 3rd rounder this year...we HOPE!

I mean, love the Murray pick or hate the Murray pick, this is just head-scratching idiocy.

Bidwill, Keim, and Kliff now have a real problem on their hands. I am glad it’s not my problem to solve

 

[AZCats]

Because this front office is made up of a bunch of morons. The fact that they even picked Murray is moronic. I now understand why the Cards are always the butt of NFL jokes.

Cards Keys to success
#1 Hire a bad coach with little experience
#2 Let that bad coach make one of t he most important moves in franchise history by letting him choose the draft pick.
#3 Pick a QB that has bust written all over him and get rid of what looked to be a promising QB who could never really show what he has got because of a pathetic team around him.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

We over-valued Rosen. We played poker and at this point we are not winning.

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[BullheadCardFan]

His value fell off a cliff at that point

 

[dogpoo32]

His value fell off a cliff at that point

His value fell off a Kliff... I'll show myself out.

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[NYCARDS]

We may as well not even had a first round pick last year.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Trade him for a 3rd. The real mistake was drafting him in the first place.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

We may as well not even had a first round pick last year.

Or the picks that were used to trade up for Rosen

 

[Praxis]

Rosen was the mistake, not Murray!

 

[POISON]

Trade him for a 3rd. The real mistake was drafting him in the first place.

I've said that long ago. I'd be happy with a 3rd, Rosie was way overhyped and overvalued to begin with.

 

[LarryStalling]

We may as well not even had a first round pick last year.

No, we did might as well not had a draft pick this year. You still have not changed the problem that plagued Rosen and it will continue to plague whoever is the qb this year. no wr and virtually no OL

 

[PJ1]

Cardinals finding new ways to screw up. Unreal.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

...which will only become 5th or 6th rounders now that we HAVE to trade him.

No, no the Cardinals certainly do not have to trade him.

This team fired a 1st year head coach, and replaced him with a sub-.500 college coach.

This team drafted a QB 1st overall, after giving up picks to draft a QB in the top 10 a year before.

Now, it is INSANE, that they keep two QB's ?

In my opinion it would be the most sensible thing this team has done in over a year.

You are not going to get a better QB to play/backup than Rosen, and you certainly can get good value from Rosen, later on.

When Murray gets hurt, you never know what Rosen will do in his place. There are plenty of examples throughout the league history of backups, or the "2nd QB" on a roster fetching good value.

Patience may be the key here.

It is not like the Cardinals are going anywhere higher than the basement of the NFC west and division this year anyway. Still have arguably the worst roster in the league, and I am sure Keim has his eye on the smallest stature, and smallest school prospect for number #33, and perhaps drafting a defensive tackle to play wide receiver in the third.

 

[football karma]

...why in the ever-loving effing EFF wouldn't you trade Rosen BEFORE the pick? As soon as you make that pick, his value plummets through the floor. We traded up last year to trade BACK for 2nd or 3rd rounder this year...we HOPE!

I mean, love the Murray pick or hate the Murray pick, this is just head-scratching idiocy.

two thoughts:

1. I think interested teams were better served waiting and letting the draft play out: maybe a QB they like would fall to them (see Wash Redskins).

2. The minute you even entertain offers, you are telling those teams that Murray is the pick. I dont think you conclude you are going to take Murray, but only if you can get a first rounder for Rosen.

Sometimes the market tells you something about value. I think the NFL is saying something about Rosen's perceived potential

 

[Chris_Sanders]

...why in the ever-loving effing EFF wouldn't you trade Rosen BEFORE the pick? As soon as you make that pick, his value plummets through the floor. We traded up last year to trade BACK for 2nd or 3rd rounder this year...we HOPE!

I mean, love the Murray pick or hate the Murray pick, this is just head-scratching idiocy.

Not at SD yet or NE but so far this is a good take

 

[TJ]

...why in the ever-loving effing EFF wouldn't you trade Rosen BEFORE the pick? As soon as you make that pick, his value plummets through the floor. We traded up last year to trade BACK for 2nd or 3rd rounder this year...we HOPE!

I mean, love the Murray pick or hate the Murray pick, this is just head-scratching idiocy.

Did you think Keim would win that end of the deal? Dude hoodwinked his damn self. He has zero leverage now in a deal.

From start to finish, Keim f**ked this up.

 

[dscher]

My assumption? Rosen was a desperate pick last year... They might have liked him... But nothing more..never fell in love with the pick. It was also a wilks era, so who knows how much influence he had... But I'm just glad they are realizing their faults and moving on..that's a dedicated owner for ya.. and thats my opinion

 

[HoodieBets]

My assumption? Rosen was a desperate pick last year... They might have liked him... But nothing more..never fell in love with the pick. It was also a wilks era, so who knows how much influence he had... But I'm just glad they are realizing their faults and moving on..that's a dedicated owner for ya.. and thats my opinion

Then they are idiots, you trade up for a guy you don’t want? I’m not buying it.


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[BW52]

Rosen was the mistake, not Murray!

you don`t know how murray will play out.He could suck completely or just have a Flutie -like career...To me that would be a freaking mistake.Anything on Murray succeeding in the NFl is speculation and hope.

 

[DRM08]

We over-valued Rosen. We played poker and at this point we are not winning.

Maybe Kliff loves both QB’s and wants to work with both of them.