If next year is uncapped.

[Gandhi]

If the next season do indeed become uncapped, what happens if Jerry Jones or some other owner hands out big contract to their core players, and because of that will be way over the salary cap when a new one is in place? Do they have to restructure all of those contracts, do they have to cut some of them or will they be allowed to be over the cap for some years?

 

[Kolo]

If the next season do indeed become uncapped, what happens if Jerry Jones or some other owner hands out big contract to their core players, and because of that will be way over the salary cap when a new one is in place? Do they have to restructure all of those contracts, do they have to cut some of them or will they be allowed to be over the cap for some years?

I suspect that instead of giving out signing bonuses, contracts would be negotiated with huge 2010 guaranteed salaries so the up-front money isn't spread out over the life of the contract. So (for example) a team could sign Dansby to a six year contract worth $55 million, with $40 million in guaranteed salary the first year and $3 million salaries (and very friendly cap charges) the next five years. This makes sense with all contracts so as to minimize all future cap charges.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

Annual Base Salaries cannot decrease from year 1 to year 2. You can't give 40M one year, and 3M the next. YOu could give a large signing bonus, but that would still be prorated. There will still be rules in place, and given that only one year will be uncapped, stuff like this won't happen. Plus I believe there are rules on how many can be signed and which teams can sign them. I'm sure Joe knows more.

 

[joeshmo]

Annual Base Salaries cannot decrease from year 1 to year 2. You can't give 40M one year, and 3M the next. YOu could give a large signing bonus, but that would still be prorated. There will still be rules in place, and given that only one year will be uncapped, stuff like this won't happen. Plus I believe there are rules on how many can be signed and which teams can sign them. I'm sure Joe knows more.

Correct on all accounts.

Teams just wont spend willy nilly and put themselves in horrible positions come 2011 or further when a new deal is settle on. Now mind you there is always loop holes around every thing, so you will see a little bit of what Gandhi is talking about, just not to the level he might be expecting.

Just like the last CBA agreement, teams will be given a certian amount of time in order to comply with the new rules. If you remember when the last CBA was met it still didnt go into effect for like a month, pushing free agency back back by a month as well. They did that in order for teams to be given enough time to not only plan accordingly and gain better understanding of the new deal but to also be given plenty of time to comply with the new rules.

Also take note, I am really starting to think a new deal will be in place. With three months to go the union and league are in more heavy negotiatons at this point then they were the last CBA negotiations. I keep hearing that the union is being heavily pressures by the players and agents to get something done before the uncapped year because besides the top 1% who will make bank during that period, the other 99% will loss a lot of money. You also ahve the pressure from the league to go to an uncapped year it will be precieved by the lesser knowledgable fan as being a MLB type system which everyone hates, while not true preception is everything and it will take a PR hit. Also note that both sides are in a complete media blackout concerning negotiations, which is a great sign, because it means talks are progressing and neither side feels the need to get the media involved in a PR battle.

So while I still think it is improbable it gets done for 2010 the odds have shifted. Where about 3 months ago I though there was only a 5% chance of a new deal happening, I know think there is a 30% chance of new deal happening and it rises weekly as of right now. So keep your fingers crossed.

 

[Buckybird]

Correct on all accounts.

Teams just wont spend willy nilly and put themselves in horrible positions come 2011 or further when a new deal is settle on. Now mind you there is always loop holes around every thing, so you will see a little bit of what Gandhi is talking about, just not to the level he might be expecting.

Just like the last CBA agreement, teams will be given a certian amount of time in order to comply with the new rules. If you remember when the last CBA was met it still didnt go into effect for like a month, pushing free agency back back by a month as well. They did that in order for teams to be given enough time to not only plan accordingly and gain better understanding of the new deal but to also be given plenty of time to comply with the new rules.

Also take note, I am really starting to think a new deal will be in place. With three months to go the union and league are in more heavy negotiatons at this point then they were the last CBA negotiations. I keep hearing that the union is being heavily pressures by the players and agents to get something done before the uncapped year because besides the top 1% who will make bank during that period, the other 99% will loss a lot of money. You also ahve the pressure from the league to go to an uncapped year it will be precieved by the lesser knowledgable fan as being a MLB type system which everyone hates, while not true preception is everything and it will take a PR hit. Also note that both sides are in a complete media blackout concerning negotiations, which is a great sign, because it means talks are progressing and neither side feels the need to get the media involved in a PR battle.

So while I still think it is improbable it gets done for 2010 the odds have shifted. Where about 3 months ago I though there was only a 5% chance of a new deal happening, I know think there is a 30% chance of new deal happening and it rises weekly as of right now. So keep your fingers crossed.

good stuff Joe

 

[SuperSpck]

Love that take Joe. No news can be good news and if the league has any brains at all they'll try not to piss off the cow with the golden utter that squeezes the green from it's teet.
The monster of public perception is clearly a huge deal, and for good reason.

 

[ajcardfan]

I still think the owners fully intend to break the back of the union with this uncapped year and the threat of a lockout for the next. Unless they can get, in large measure, what they want right now.

This uncapped year is going to be a disaster for the players. joe is right on in saying the large majority of players are going to lose money.

 

[devilalum]

I suspect that instead of giving out signing bonuses, contracts would be negotiated with huge 2010 guaranteed salaries so the up-front money isn't spread out over the life of the contract. So (for example) a team could sign Dansby to a six year contract worth $55 million, with $40 million in guaranteed salary the first year and $3 million salaries (and very friendly cap charges) the next five years. This makes sense with all contracts so as to minimize all future cap charges.

That sounds like a blue print to become the Washington Redskins.

 

[cardpa]

Just have a luxury tax like baseball for those teams that go over the cap in the years following the uncapped year. The Yankees are 40% on every dollar they are over the cap.

 

[ActingWild]

Just have a luxury tax like baseball for those teams that go over the cap in the years following the uncapped year. The Yankees are 40% on every dollar they are over the cap.

Doesn't this type of system separate the haves from the havenots even more? There are only a handful of teams who can afford to go over the cap but being as they can afford to do it, they spend and get the best talent.

In the end, the luxury tax means that it costs more to acquire a roster of all-stars...but as there ARE teams that can afford to pay that price tag, it becomes an advantage for those teams because it eliminates the competition.

 

[splitsecond]

Luxury taxes won't deter people like Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder. Not strong enough to keep the league competitive.

 

[stewdog1]

A rookie cap would do more good for everyone involved than anything else.

 

[lauraw]

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