If Sexon has surgery and is out for the season, should...

[AZCB34]

...the Dbacks get noodle arm Gonzo under the knife as well since for all intents the season is washed out? This way Gonzo would be ready for ST next year with no problems.

 

[kps0001]

yeah and trade Randy, Finley, and Bautista, unfortunately. But it would clear alot o'money. Give the young kids a chance like Terrero.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

...the Dbacks get noodle arm Gonzo under the knife as well since for all intents the season is washed out? This way Gonzo would be ready for ST next year with no problems.

You somewhat stole my thunder with that post since I was going to suggest that on another thread.....

If the Dbacks are out of contention in Aug, Gonzalez must immediately have his surgery, then the Dbacks should revisit the potential trade with Seattle and deal Hillenbrand for Frank Garcia (even with Sexson recovering from surgery, Colbrunn and Baerga would be adequate enough to cover 1B), and then as kps0001 suggested, they should then trade Finley and Bautista and see if Terrero, DeVore, or even Victor Hall are capable everyday OF..... If 2 of those 3 are prove their keep during their audition, then the Dbacks dont have to invest heavily on an OF during FA or trade for one....

 

[AZCB34]

You somewhat stole my thunder with that post since I was going to suggest that on another thread.....

If the Dbacks are out of contention in Aug, Gonzalez must immediately have his surgery, then the Dbacks should revisit the potential trade with Seattle and deal Hillenbrand for Frank Garcia (even with Sexson recovering from surgery, Colbrunn and Baerga would be adequate enough to cover 1B), and then as kps0001 suggested, they should then trade Finley and Bautista and see if Terrero, DeVore, or even Victor Hall are capable everyday OF..... If 2 of those 3 are prove their keep during their audition, then the Dbacks dont have to invest heavily on an OF during FA or trade for one....

My thoughts are that once it is decided to operate on Sexson and shut him down for the year, that should immediately shut down Gonzo and get him under the knife. That way the Dbacks can start planning for next year.

Trading Finley makes some sense but the market will be narrow since I assume he can veto a trade. Likely, SD is the one real shot for him since I think he lives there in the offseason.

I don't like trading Bautista but I guess the way to look at it is his trade value may never be higher so make while whilst the sun shines.

I must be the only pro-Hillenbrand person here but the Dbacks cannot trade him. I think his value to this team is too high right now and until A) Sexson gets completely back from surgery and B) he is signed long term. I keep Hillenbrand around as my 1B and spot 3B.

Colbrunn and Baerga are not even the platoon answer at first.

The Dbacks will not put Gonzo under the knife until seasons end...especially if Sexson goes down for the year since the Dbacks will make the assumption Gonzo is the sole remaining reason to come to the ball park.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

My thoughts are that once it is decided to operate on Sexson and shut him down for the year, that should immediately shut down Gonzo and get him under the knife. That way the Dbacks can start planning for next year.

Trading Finley makes some sense but the market will be narrow since I assume he can veto a trade. Likely, SD is the one real shot for him since I think he lives there in the offseason.

I don't like trading Bautista but I guess the way to look at it is his trade value may never be higher so make while whilst the sun shines.

I must be the only pro-Hillenbrand person here but the Dbacks cannot trade him. I think his value to this team is too high right now and until A) Sexson gets completely back from surgery and B) he is signed long term. I keep Hillenbrand around as my 1B and spot 3B.

Colbrunn and Baerga are not even the platoon answer at first.

The Dbacks will not put Gonzo under the knife until seasons end...especially if Sexson goes down for the year since the Dbacks will make the assumption Gonzo is the sole remaining reason to come to the ball park.

I guess I advocate trading Bautista, Finley, and Hillenbrand because I can no longer tolerate teams letting players "walk" without getting anything in return....

If Bautista continues to excel, then the Dbacks might be able to lure a decent pitching prospect from a contender whose desperate for an OF (especially if one of theirs suffered a major injury)......

Finley might waive his OF for any contender out of courtesy toward the Dbacks since they helped salvaged his career.....

As far as Hillenbrand....If the Mariners were seriously willing to part with someone of the caliber of Garcia, then it's certainly worthwhile.... True, Sexson may not be fully recovered (even after surgery), however, the Dbacks could possibly convert someone like a Sergio Santos to a 1B (because they have quite the surplus of middle IFs)......

I'm just more considered about their long-term pitching situation....Rosario was counted as their long-term ace, however, it appears he may not return back to the Dbacks organization......The jury is still out on Webb since last season could very well been a fluke..... Gosling still cant have a decent Spring Training in order to make the Dbacks roster....

So...if the Dbacks could net pitchers for Finley, Hillenbrand, or Bautista, then they must execute.....

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Am I the only one who thinks we should consider moving Gonzo to 1B?

 

[KingLouieLouie]

Am I the only one who thinks we should consider moving Gonzo to 1B?

I'm not too completely sure.... Since a 1B sometimes must make throws to 2nd/3rd base (or homeplate whenever there's a sacrifice).....Or even the repetitive motion of throwing back to the pitcher after pick-off attempts could put more strain on his throwing arm.....

 

[AZCB34]

Louie: IF the Mariners were seriously going to offer up garcia for Hillebrand straight up, I would agree that the trade should be accepted. Given the lack of pitching out there, I find it hard to fathom they would do that trade straight up SP for a 3B, The skeptic in me says there is more to that rumor on the Dbacks end that has been reported.

MaoTosi: I would be more than happy to convert Gonzo to 1B. reality is that may be the best place for him other than DH. Problem is, nobody in the organization, IMO, will push for that change. I get the feeling Gonzo is kind of king of the position players and they cater to him. I would imagine he would balk at the first mention and the issue would die down.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

Louie: IF the Mariners were seriously going to offer up garcia for Hillebrand straight up, I would agree that the trade should be accepted. Given the lack of pitching out there, I find it hard to fathom they would do that trade straight up SP for a 3B, The skeptic in me says there is more to that rumor on the Dbacks end that has been reported.

The Mariners have been pursuing for some long-term stability at 3B for quite some time (were burrned in the Jeff Cirillo deal) and Hillenbrand's pull-hitting approach would be ideal for Safeco Park....

Also, the Mariners have enough pitching prospects (Madritsch, Nageotte, Blackley, and Thornton) that parting with Garcia (who I believe is in the final year of his contract) makes perfect sense.....

I just read on ESPN Insider that Garcia is also linked in trade talks w/the Mets (for one of their 3B prospects)......

 

[BC867]

I'm not too completely sure.... Since a 1B sometimes must make throws to 2nd/3rd base (or homeplate whenever there's a sacrifice).....Or even the repetitive motion of throwing back to the pitcher after pick-off attempts could put more strain on his throwing arm.....

I agree with Mao Tosi about moving Gonzo to 1B, if he doesn't opt for surgery during the season.

You can spend a whole game throwing every ball sidearm (or with a wrist flip, as Durazo used to) and not hurt your arm, or the team, as much as one strong necessary throw from the outfield.

I know that from experience when I was younger.

And I believe that Gonzo is a good enough athlete to pick up on proper plays at 1B -- certainly no less than Hillenbrand, Tracy, or Baerga.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I agree with Mao Tosi about moving Gonzo to 1B, if he doesn't opt for surgery during the season.

You can spend a whole game throwing every ball sidearm (or with a wrist flip, as Durazo used to) and not hurt your arm, or the team, as much as one strong necessary throw from the outfield.

I know that from experience when I was younger.

And I believe that Gonzo is a good enough athlete to pick up on proper plays at 1B -- certainly no less than Hillenbrand, Tracy, or Baerga.

I thought it would be difficult for a 1B (let's say on a "suicide squeeze" play) to converge on the ball, set up, and throw underhanded to home plate or if there was a potential force-out to 2nd base that throwing underheaded too quickly would cause the 1B to throw the ball into the OF.....

Oh well, just hope Gonzalez immediately has his shoulder operated on and that Sexson will be return next season at full-strength (which obviously everyone hopes)....

 

[BC867]

I thought it would be difficult for a 1B (let's say on a "suicide squeeze" play) to converge on the ball, set up, and throw underhanded to home plate or if there was a potential force-out to 2nd base that throwing underheaded too quickly would cause the 1B to throw the ball into the OF.

Underhanded, I agree. My suggestion was sidearm (as Gonzo is making his throws from the outfield now).

You can reach any point in the infield sidearm from 1B, including the warmup grounders to 2B-SS-3B each inning.