If Sexson has surgery and is out for the season, will he re-sign?

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I think he will. On ESPN Tonight they were saying Richie feels so bad, he knows they gave up a lot for him. I think if he is done this year he will be wearing a Diamondback uniform next year.
 

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I think so, too. I have no evidence, just a feeling.

I PRAY HE DOES. Eek, Antonio McDyess flashback...
 

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Zona90 said:
I think he will. On ESPN Tonight they were saying Richie feels so bad, he knows they gave up a lot for him. I think if he is done this year he will be wearing a Diamondback uniform next year.

He feels bad now, but let's see how bad he feels come contract time. I am not bashing Richie but time and time again in all sports, we here about how a player feels and then they bail for a different opportunity (more money, less money, whatever).

The better question may be, if he has surgery do the Dbacks try and re-sign him?
 

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I can't bash the guy at all...

I have dislocated my shoulder 3 times over the past 6 years. When you dislocate your shoulder, usually, you tear your labrum.

Richie had a partial dislocation, which means it came out and went back in quickly. He still tore the labrum.

And when your labrum is torn, your shoulder is now less sturdy that it was to begin with.

Labrums are tendons and tissue that doesn't "heal" like a muscle...you need them repaired with surgery.

He tried to come back, which wasn't smart...it's no surprise to me he did it again, because twice I dislocated mine the same exact way. I just had surgery in April and it's a 6-month rehabilitation process.

Mike
 

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I gave him a 4 year deal in MVP baseball 2004, he better resign :mad:
 

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Just spent 45 minutes perusing the medical literature - looks like trainer Lessard is right - the rehab route is not usually adequate when there's recurrence, a labral tear, and in an athletic person - rehab works better for more sedentary types, or where general shoulder muscle weakness is a culprit to begin with.

The more dislocations or subluxations (dislocation means it is OUT of joint and must be put back in; subluxation means it slips out and in on its own) the poorer the long term outcome even with surgery for full return to function with minimal risk of spontaneous reccurrences down the road. Plus the more times it goes in and out, apparently the higher the risk of serious premature arthritis in the joint.

Surgery has several different approaches, but mostly they open it up, and use little staples and anchors to close the tear and tighten up the stretched ligaments and capsule. This has a pretty high success rate: "The clinical outcome was excellent in 97 patients (77%), good in 16 (13%) and fair in 13 (10%). 2 patients had resubluxation, while no patient had a complete redislocation. The average loss of range of motion of external rotation, as compared to the contralateral shoulder side was 13 degrees. 67 of 72 patients returned to sports."

However, some studies show the reduced range of motion (10-25% over several studies) can be problematic for some throwing athletes - which may be why pitchers with torn labrums are often ruined despite treatment. Interestingly, although everyone here talks about 'being back to 100% in 6 months' the Docs don't usually look at follow-up for rating full recovery until 18-24 months post-surgery - wonder if Danny's poor 2003 season was based partly on unrealistic expectations for one year after surgery - esp since his damage was far more extensive. (Wonder if Gonzo trying to compensate for a not-quite-ready shoulder threw a kink in his elbow last year.)

Anyhow, I think Richie would be nuts to risk long-term damage. This team can't go anywhere with this pitching staff, with or without him.

Do we resign him for $10-$12-$15 M a year? The stuff I'm reading at least suggests we won't absolutely know how well he's recovered till maybe 2006. Lot of money. Could buy an actual pitcher.
 

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Zona90 said:
I think he will. On ESPN Tonight they were saying Richie feels so bad, he knows they gave up a lot for him. I think if he is done this year he will be wearing a Diamondback uniform next year.

I don't think he'd re-sign out of sympathy. This injury (assuming it's season ending) could go either way. On the one hand they have all season to sit down and hammer a deal out w/ Sexson, who’s not exactly in the best negotiating position. On the other, this injury could (and probably should) give the D-Backs some pause as to whether to give a Sexson a long-term deal. Not just because he's hurt, rather that they may headed in a rebuilding direction which is not very conducive to high paid players (my argument against the Sexson acquisition all along) let alone high paid first basemen.
 

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The best case scenario (which I posed on another thread) is for Sexson to be willing to settle for just a 1-year contract (an incentive laden contract w/an option) until he proves that he's completely overcome his injury..... He must have surgery ASAP or else.....
 

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Like AZZenny said, a torn labrum is not an easy thing to come back from, especially with how hard Sexson swings the bat, i.e. Shawn Green. Sexson's injury may actually help the DBacks re-sign him as his value will definitely go down. But at the same time, do you really want to invest heavily in a .250 power hitter coming off a very dangerous injury? We'll see what Garagiola thinks. I think the team should look heavily into moving Gonzo to first and giving Sexson's earmarked money to a pitcher, perhaps A.J. Burnett or Matt Morris.
 
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ASUCHRIS said:
btw, how do you like the game?
It's okay, I'm still working on adjusting the sliders...either I am scoring 20 runs or i am getting shut out, there is no in between
 

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Ryanwb said:
It's okay, I'm still working on adjusting the sliders...either I am scoring 20 runs or i am getting shut out, there is no in between


I just play on all star.....I am great at pitching on All Star, but hitting takes some time....pro is way too easy
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
The best case scenario (which I posed on another thread) is for Sexson to be willing to settle for just a 1-year contract (an incentive laden contract w/an option) until he proves that he's completely overcome his injury..... He must have surgery ASAP or else.....

Unless the FA market for him...even coming off this surgery...is completely dry, there is little incentive for him to sign this type of contract here. The Dbacks may be able to get him to sign a more financially friendly long term deal now than before he got hurt.

I am generally against these one year deals for players like him because I believe all the team is doing is allowing him the opportunity to run his price up. At the same time though, my guess is this type of deal is exactly what the Dbacks want since they won;t be taking the chance of Sexson not getting all the way back.
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
The best case scenario (which I posed on another thread) is for Sexson to be willing to settle for just a 1-year contract (an incentive laden contract w/an option) until he proves that he's completely overcome his injury..... He must have surgery ASAP or else.....
Theoretically he could sign for an incentive laden contract right now, but once the season is over that won't happen. The D-Backs will have to either offer him arbitration or not. I'd be shocked if they don't offer him arbitration, because then they would lose the draft back and have squat to show for the trade with the Brewers. If they offer arbitration he must be paid 80% of the current year's salary, which takes out any incentive laden contract.

He's not going to sign a low pay deal now, because he has to know that the D-Backs will have to offer him arbitration or look like fools.
 
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