If Tomlin is hired by PIT....

[Divide Et Impera]

....what does that mean for the Steelers assistants and the players? Does Wiz tab Grimm as OC (how amazing would that be?)? Do we get Dick LeBeau as DC (he's a 3-4 guy and we have 4-3 personnel)? Do any of their players get cut or traded unexpectedly (Tomlin is strictly a 4-3 guy and PIT strictly has 3-4 personnel)? What the heck does Tomlin's seemingly pending hire mean to us here in the desert?

 

['08 Cubs]

hmmm

yes
this is most interesting
i was waiting for the "Rivera shoe" to drop
i felt that would be the hire
and then the dominoes would fall for the remainder of the Cards staff

i think now
the process might kick into overdrive

and then we can turn our full attention to the draft

 

[ajcardfan]

I'd guess it'd mean that Whisenhune would get some more of the assistants he wants. Which would be a good thing. If it means Pendergast getting fired, it will be even better.

But, I just can't get all jazzed up about assistants unfortunately. I wish I could get pumped about Russ Grimm being here.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Another question is if Grimm would interview for the last remaining HC position in the league - OAK?

If Tomlin is hired, Grimm is definitely gone. If he didn't take the OAK job, he's not gonna want to be out of football for any period of time. The highest position he could get if he didn't take the OAK job is as an OC/AC anywhere else. Chances are likely extremely good that he would take that position here if he were offered it. Would it be a good idea to essentially have 2 HCs on our staff? I would venture to say that it would be a GREAT thing for this organization and its players....

 

[joeshmo]

Does Grimm even want to come here as an OC, does he have the skills to be an OC. Or would he be content with OL/AC title. I dont think he wants to be an OC or has the skill set to do so.

I think Whipple is still the hot prospect to be Wiz OC/QB coach.

 

[Goldfield]

Seems like a rare oppertunity to have several qualified guys on the staff...

Hope the Cards jump on it...

 

[Ryanwb]

Grimm got disrespected, that's all I know

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Does Grimm even want to come here as an OC, does he have the skills to be an OC. Or would he be content with OL/AC title. I dont think he wants to be an OC or has the skill set to do so.

I think Whipple is still the hot prospect to be Wiz OC/QB coach.

I'm wondering if Whipple could come over as QB coach and Grimm as OC/AC, so that Loney can stay on as OLC.

With regards to your questions, I have no idea of his qualifications as OC, but he is hotly regarded as a legitimate HC candidate, so wouldn't that require proficiency as either an OC or a DC? Seeing as Grimm's background is not DC related, wouldn't it logically follow that he would likely be proficient as OC?

 

[Evil Ash]

Another question is if Grimm would interview for the last remaining HC position in the league - OAK?

If Tomlin is hired, Grimm is definitely gone. If he didn't take the OAK job, he's not gonna want to be out of football for any period of time. The highest position he could get if he didn't take the OAK job is as an OC/AC anywhere else. Chances are likely extremely good that he would take that position here if he were offered it. Would it be a good idea to essentially have 2 HCs on our staff? I would venture to say that it would be a GREAT thing for this organization and its players....

If Tomlin is hired Grimm would be brought here in some capacity whether it be as an Oline coach/Assistant coach like he was with the Steelers or as an OC here (does he want to be an OC?).

Whisenhunt was asked on Gambo and Ash after his hiring if Grimm was not chosen as the Steelers HC would he want Grimm to come over here and be on his staff. His answer was "Hell yes!" so its pretty safe to say he's coming here (Tomlin would not want to retain a person he defeated in getting the job on his staff)

 

[ajcardfan]

Does Grimm even want to come here as an OC, does he have the skills to be an OC. Or would he be content with OL/AC title. I dont think he wants to be an OC or has the skill set to do so.

I think Whipple is still the hot prospect to be Wiz OC/QB coach.

I agree with you joe. No way Grimm is an OC. I do think this means Whipple will be here with the OC title.

We'll see.

 

[Evil Ash]

I agree with you joe. No way Grimm is an OC. I do think this means Whipple will be here with the OC title.

We'll see.

Either Whipple or the WR coach in Pittsburgh

 

[Ryanwb]

Pittsburgh management dropped the ball, pure and simple

 

[ajcardfan]

Pittsburgh management dropped the ball, pure and simple

I bet they think they did the smart thing.

Like I said on another thread, I'd rather talk crap about their coaching decision AFTER we do better on the field.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Man, speaking of PIT's WR coach, how awesome would that be? If he successfully worked with Ward (Boldin), Randle El (Boldin), Burress (Fitz) and Washington (Johnson), imagine what he could do here! Here's to getting the entire PIT offensive coaching staff here and keeping Loney on in some capacity!!!

 

[joeshmo]

I'm wondering if Whipple could come over as QB coach and Grimm as OC/AC, so that Loney can stay on as OLC.

With regards to your questions, I have no idea of his qualifications as OC, but he is hotly regarded as a legitimate HC candidate, so wouldn't that require proficiency as either an OC or a DC? Seeing as Grimm's background is not DC related, wouldn't it logically follow that he would likely be proficient as OC?

Well he was a highly regarded HC prospect and he has never been an OC before or shown the proficiency to be an OC, so the answer to your question IMO, is a NO.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

So, how could someone be a HC and not be able to run either the D or the O autonomously if needed?

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Oh, and no one has touched on what Tomlin's hiring means in terms of PIT's roster....

 

[Ryanwb]

Oh, and no one has touched on what Tomlin's hiring means in terms of PIT's roster....

I don't think anyone can answer that at this point

 

[Evil Ash]

So, how could someone be a HC and not be able to run either the D or the O autonomously if needed?

Not all head coaches design plays. Some like Vermeil during his later coaching year just oversee the whole operation and let the OC and DC design the plays.

We have no idea if he can design plays or not

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

if Grimm was willing to work under Whiz in Pittsburgh(they both sais they would gladly work for the other if one got the Pitt HC job) then why wouldn't he work for him in Arizona? It makes sense.Bring him,LeBeau and Whipple over here. Whiz has siad what an excellent staff they had in Pittsburgh so bring'em out west.

 

[Twist18]

I think at LeBeau's age, he might be inclined to retire rather than move his family out to the desert.

 

[JeffGollin]

How About This?

Whipple as QB Coach

Grimm as Assistant HC and OL Coach (and morale "Godfather" to set the tone for the entire team)

LeBeau as DC might make sense because he could play a senior role to guide Austin, Davis and the D-Line coach, with Billy Davis (who has DC experience) next in line as his logical successor with more seasoning.

Or if it's felt LeBeau "is playing a final hole on the back nine", how about making him a defensive consultant to work with Teryl Austin in the secondary?

 

[joeshmo]

So, how could someone be a HC and not be able to run either the D or the O autonomously if needed?

Thats what Assistants are for.

An OC who becomes a DC cant run the D autonomously if needed so why should they be considered for a HC job, or vice versa.

Head coaches main job is to oversee the whole process, you dont have to be an OC or DC to do that. You just got to know football.

 

[lobo]

Whipple as QB Coach

Grimm as Assistant HC and OL Coach (and morale "Godfather" to set the tone for the entire team)

LeBeau as DC might make sense because he could play a senior role to guide Austin, Davis and the D-Line coach, with Billy Davis (who has DC experience) next in line as his logical successor with more seasoning.

Or if it's felt LeBeau "is playing a final hole on the back nine", how about making him a defensive consultant to work with Teryl Austin in the secondary?

would like it to happen, and only speculation would be that it won't happen....what is funny tho' is some of the constituents on the board were critical of green for bringing in his people....if KG does this ...what do we think then....i can answer my own question...if successful who cares...if not...then we will have another issue to comment about!!!

it always was and will be human nature to surround yourself with people whom you want to albeit people who you know won't forget the ammo when you're in a foxhole....based on steelers perfromance since 2000...the group he would like to bring in would be a blessing for us!!

 

[vinnymac]

looks like tomlin is going to be the steelers new head coach