I'm convinced the Cardinals will/should draft OTs back to back in the draft

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I have been convinced of this since Plummer was the QB. I know they have tried, but until the line issues are fully handled they should be drafting at least 2 in the first 4 rounds. Whether they make it or not. I would say fork up for at least one stud FA if available, but they need to quit with the WR/RB bit until the line is premier. We need AT LEAST 2 exceptional line players if we ever want a running game and pass-pro can improve with experience.

Both the Niners and the Hags spent high picks on OLine players and wouldn't you know it? They run the ball. Heck, the Niners owe their entire recent success because of Iupati, Davis and Staley.

I remember how much I wanted Iupati drafted by the Cardinals when he was in the draft. A whole lot of people thought you should never draft a guard that high. But, we drafted a guard even higher than that when we got Cooper this year.

Losing Cooper for the year really sucked. :( We would know much better the state of our line with an actual season of experience for Cooper.
 

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I remember how much I wanted Iupati drafted by the Cardinals when he was in the draft. A whole lot of people thought you should never draft a guard that high. But, we drafted a guard even higher than that when we got Cooper this year.

Losing Cooper for the year really sucked. :( We would know much better the state of our line with an actual season of experience for Cooper.
For the most part, I'm of that belief. But, this draft class was so bad, especially when it came to skill positions, that it was feasible to draft Cooper that high.
 

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This might have already been posted, because I haven't read the entire thred. But I remember the year when the Cardinals draft Luis Sharpe in the first round and Tootie Robbins in the third round. That worked out very well.
 

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Austin Sefarian-Jenkins is a freak athlete at TE, but his impact on games is not equivalent with his size/skill. It would be tempting to convert him to left tackle.
 

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not only that, but how important are LT versus. elite QBs.

Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a good LT. Offense is always good-great.

Peyton and Russel Wilson are both playing without their starting LT AND RT. Offenses are still elite.

Pittsburg's never had a great LT. Up until the last two years, Roth has always been good-great.

The Colts don't have a good LT and Luck takes a beating...and he's still elite and so is the offense.

I mean, even Jay Cutler, who's not great, but has had an awful O-line has still been decent and put up numbers.

Meanwhile, how much did Jake Long do for the myriad of Dolphins QBs who have been terrible since he was drafted/how did he help Sam Bradford? How has Joe Thomas helped push the Cleveland offense forward? These are two of the best LTs in football, but they make very little impact on the game because they've never had a QB who could take advantage of their skills.

Bottom line, IMO...a good O-line can't make a bad QB good, but a good QB can make a bad O-line better. As a Cardinals fan, if Kurt Warner wasn't proof of that, I don't what is.

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Yes I'd love an elite LT but not instead of a franchise QB.
 

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My counter to this is that when your team is bad enough to get a top QB, it is because the roster has holes. If you prioritize improving your roster and then drafting the QB, you won't be in position to do so.

Now, I am not stating we should take a QB just to take a QB, but if there is one available that our staff prefers, they should take him and then work to improve his supporting cast.

That IS a good point.

I will have to put that into the brain and think about it.

Good stuff.
 
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