Implementing Lebeau's Defense

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I think most of us can agree that the defense Lebeau has been using in Pittsburgh for many years has been one of the most consistent and most effective defenses in the league. It's hard to argue that fact.

Now there are plenty of people on this board that question if Ray Horton is a man who can successfully install that defense here. But the purpose of this post is not to debate who is qualified to do what. It's meant to be an explanation of the defense and to point out a few things that should be expected when implementing this system.

To kick it off, here is a quote from Dick Lebeau regarding the main principle of the zone blitz defense.

"We want to trick them with a guy they're not figuring on coming, or somebody who shows up in a place you'd never expect him to be. That's the concept in a nutshell: You hold them by the nose, then sneak around and kick them in the tail— just like General Patton used to say." --Dick LeBeau

Dick Lebeau's system is without a doubt one of the most successful and enduring defenses this league has seen. But it is one of the most complex and hardest to implement.

It requires defensive players to execute assignments that they may have never been asked to do before, such as NTs and DEs dropping into coverage. It requires near perfect timing of dual blitzers to cross paths at a precise moment to confuse the OLs blocking assignments.

The general idea behind the zone blitz defense is to have the ability to send any number of linebackers, safeties or cornerbacks from anywhere on the field without compromising the secondary. In essence, the zone blitz was developed to bring many different people utilizing as many different angles as possible without sacrificing the integrity of the zone secondary.

As Dick Lebeau put it:

“The zone blitz is a conservative way to blitz, really,” LeBeau says. “Percentage-wise, it’s the safer way to blitz. That’s what we were looking for all along when we started out.”

You won't normally see too many 6 man blitzes with this defense. Pittsburgh only rushed 6 men 26 times this past season. But you will see plenty of 5 man rushes.

Typically, the designated rushers won't be called during the huddle. That decision is generally made pre snap using a "closed call" to determine who is dropping into coverage and who is rushing at the line of scrimmage based on the offensive formation, which side the TE is lined up on, the RB alignment etc.

Typically, you will also see 3 deep zone shell, where 3 defensive players will drop deep to cover 1/3rd of the field, and the other 3 defenders will cover the intermediate 1/3rd of the field. Most of the time you will always have 6 players back in coverage.

Dick Lebeau however, also likes to have 1 wild card player with good instincts who can pop up at any given time at any given place on the field. In Cincinnati he had David Fulcher, and in Pittsburgh he has Troy Palomalu. This adds to the unpredictable nature of this defense further confusing the opposing offense. This defender needs to have acute awareness and understanding of what the opposing offense is trying to do. He needs to have great run and pass recognition skills, and he must be stout enough to stop the run and agile enough to play the pass. He has to play with a controlled recklessness otherwise he could be leaving his teammates out to dry.

Most of the coverages, are designed to keep the play infront of the defenders and to not allow the big play. You will often see very little run after catch with this defense as it is designed to get the ball carrier down as soon as he makes the catch. You will also often see what is called "Press-Bail". In the Press-Bail, the CB will often line up as if he is going to play Bump and Run, and at the snap of the ball, will often drop deep back into a zone coverage.

This defense relies very heavily on the premise of disguise. It is designed to create confusion and force the opposing quarterback to throw the ball before he is ready. At first glance, he doesn't think the pass rush is too heavy and by the time he realizes he has a rusher running full steam with a bead on him, his eyes don't see the DLineman/Linebacker slipping back into coverage. The ZB will often give the look of man coverage just before passing off the coverage assignment to another defender, further complicating the QB's reads.

Often it is a misconception that just because Pittsburgh has been one of the leading run defenses in the league that the zone blitz scheme is geared to stop the run. It's really not. Most of the players play the pass first and tackle anything that comes by them second. To accomplish this successfully, they are drilled at pass/run awareness to improve their reaction times and requires excellent change of direction and mobility. The DL must also be able to hold their gap responsibility, in this case the DL is responsible for a 2 gap assignment. It requires immense strength and endurance and it helps to have quality depth to rotate in and out to keep one another fresh. The linebackers must be able to effectively, accurately and quickly diagnose run or pass and step in to fill gaps and/or maintain backside contain while everyone else converges to make the tackles.

Here's a couple of examples from Dick Lebeau's playbook.

From Blitzology.com

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What can we expect with this defense? Well first I'll start off by saying that this is the defense that Whisenhunt has been wanting to run since he arrived here in AZ. But with Clancy Pendergast and Billy Davis, he never had anyone experienced in running it before.

If we hire Ray Horton, we will be getting a disciple of Lebeau's who has extensive knowledge in this system, both playing and coaching. Again I'm not saying this to debate whether he is qualified or not, we all have our opinions. But at least he has a much better understanding of the system than what we previously had.

This is a very complex system that goes FAR beyond what I listed here. Whis stated that it was important to find a DC that would mesh well with our players but also whose terminology was similar to what we had here. I have serious doubts as to whether or not any Lebeau disciples terminology is similar to what we have had here in the past.

To sum it up, I think we will see some improvement this year with this system, but I caution everyone, this defense is going to take a long time to learn let alone perfect. I can easily see missed assignments and blown coverages while our players try to adapt to this extremely complex system. This is part of the reason why I can see the Cardinals holding on to both Clark Haggans and Joey Porter who have some familiarity with it, to play as well as mentor other players. This system is going to take a couple years for our players to get comfortable in and we still don't have all the pieces to maximize it's potential.
 

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I saw the diagrams and was like I see someone's been on blitzology (just discovered this site the other day, good stuff). I think it is pretty clear that Wilson will be playing the Polamalu role when you never know where he is going to be on the field. His cover skills are nowhere near polamalu's, but I think he will be a bit better in a scheme with a lot of zone and I would love to see him constantly put in position to play with a "controlled recklessness".

It will be interesting to see how DRC plays in this new style of defense, because man coverage is definitely his strong point. At least Horton was a DB and then a DB coach, that could be vital. Although I think I remember reading something the other night about the ZB and how it's zone coverage by definition but is somewhat like man in regards to how you play the people entering your zone. Or I might just be crazy, I don't know.
 
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Hypo-----Thanks for your insight into this defensive scheme. This should be very helpful for those of us who are not knowlegable about how Pittsburgh goes about their business of playing defense. I have found your posts to be extremely well thought out and very useful to me. You are much appreciated.
 

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I saw the diagrams and was like I see someone's been on blitzology (just discovered this site the other day, good stuff). I think it is pretty clear that Wilson will be playing the Polamalu role when you never know where he is going to be on the field. His cover skills are nowhere near polamalu's, but I think he will be a bit better in a scheme with a lot of zone and I would love to see him constantly put in position to play with a "controlled recklessness".

Agreed. And most importantly Polumalu doesn't have to play much man in this defense either.

Wilson should be used much like Polumalu is. Wilson SHOULD NOT be man on man with anyone. The day Wilson was assigned to cover Antonio Gates was the first "Whaaaaa ?" that started to show our former DC the door.

Let him rush the passer, play zone, read the play, and make a play.

It will be interesting to see how DRC plays in this new style of defense, because man coverage is definitely his strong point. At least Horton was a DB and then a DB coach, that could be vital. Although I think I remember reading something the other night about the ZB and how it's zone coverage by definition but is somewhat like man in regards to how you play the people entering your zone. Or I might just be crazy, I don't know.

Right now for DRC the scheme is not the problem. When he had knee surgery a year ago, apparently the doctor sewed his had to the inside of his butt, and the the sutures have yet to dissolve.

DRC needs some heart, discipline, and some accounability more than anything else.

And yes, I am very disappointed with DRC, probably past reason.
 

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Hypo great post! Does anyone think there will be some wrinkles in this defense that Horton will favor from what Lebeau was doing, in other words put his own touch on it?
 

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This thread is why I am addicted to this site, great stuff.
 

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Great Stuff.

There is one more main principle of Lebeau’s philosophy and it is the most important one according to Butlers interview with Jurecki last week. Butler said his main philosophy is – “If you try and cover everything, you will end up covering nothing.”

Also I am sure Horton will run Lebeau’s system but like any DC there will be some tweaks, the smart ones coming from a great system usually do 90% system they came from with only 10% their own tweaks. I am hoping Horton is a smart one in that regard and doesn’t try to re-invent the wheel.
Of the small tweaks I hope he makes is the use of 2 gap system on the front line. With the likes of Dockett and Campbell I am hoping he doesn’t strictly use them as 2 gap technique DE’s because they are better suited to be 1 gappers and shoot up field. Maybe a variation of 1 gap and 2 gap DE’s where one plays a 2 gap and the other plays a 1 gap depending on the play call, with the NT always playing the zero technique. Lebeau himself has actually been experimenting with that very thing ever since they draft Ziggy Hood so maybe Horton will expand on that a little bit more considering our personnel.
 

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I agree with most of the said comments here.. I think the Horton hiring will bring the best out of DRC, Physically I think he is as skiled as ANY CB in the league... Mentally I think he is a Cromartie.... :bang:

I am really interested in where we go in the draft... IF we trade our 2nd for Kolb then only other offensive need I think we have is Oline... Everyone else drafted could and should be for the defense...

I have been on the Von Miller bandwagon for a while now, and I think he would fit VERY well in a Lebeau themed defense... If you have him, Wilson, Porter blizting at different times, it could prove to be a good combination with results..

HOWEVER If Both Miler and Patrick Peterson are there, (i'LL FULLY admit I have a man crush on PP) Do you guys think Horton will be more apt to go with the physically gifted freak of Peterson or the solid rush LB in a position we desperatly need..

Very interesting options to see how it plays out.. I think Horton will be fine, the biggest question is how lng before we can surround him with the right personel...
 

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I love that initial post on this thread - lots of techie stuff to get our teeth into (& then misunderstand).

A cautionary word - You've got to have the right personnel in place to run that defense, and Pittsburgh has had a gazillion seasons to put the right defensive guys with the right skill sets in place.

You saw what can happen to a LeBeau defense when, in the SB, the Steeler starting CB's got nicked & they no longer had guys in there who could cover tight, within the LeBeau's scheme. (Hello, Jenkins! Hello, Nelson!)

Which leads me to wonder - Do the Cardinals have the right guys in place to run a LeBeau-style defense? (Ironically, our potential problem may not involve a lack of CB's who can play man - DRC, Toler, Jefferson etc. fit the desired profile). But what about our D-line and LB's? Do we have the guys who can get the job done? If not, what pieces of the puzzle are missing?

Or - would we be better off continuing to tailor our defense to the guys we've already got?
 

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I love that initial post on this thread - lots of techie stuff to get our teeth into (& then misunderstand).

A cautionary word - You've got to have the right personnel in place to run that defense, and Pittsburgh has had a gazillion seasons to put the right defensive guys with the right skill sets in place. Quote:

The plus side to this is that by having Horton aboard before the draft, (and before free agency if there is one), we will have his insight into just which players we need to procure. That should be massively helpful in determining which players we have that can work, and which players we still need to bring in. I hope we get this hire done, so that we can begin the business of getting better.

 

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Which leads me to wonder - Do the Cardinals have the right guys in place to run a LeBeau-style defense? (Ironically, our potential problem may not involve a lack of CB's who can play man - DRC, Toler, Jefferson etc. fit the desired profile). But what about our D-line and LB's? Do we have the guys who can get the job done? If not, what pieces of the puzzle are missing?

Or - would we be better off continuing to tailor our defense to the guys we've already got?

Jeff, for one, we can't keep doing the mix-and-match, jack-of-all-trades defense, as your last point insinuates. That defensive style made us barely adequate sometimes and terrible most of the time. We need a DC that has a specific focus and is willing to implement that defense.

That leads into my second point. We aren't that far off from being a good defense, though we're pretty far from being a dominant one. We have a solid defensive line--could use a backup NT--but still a solid line. We have talent in the secondary. What we really need is a big infusion of talent at LBer. The bright side with the zone blitz scheme is that you don't always have to have great individual talent to get to the QB. If you can scheme to get a guy to rush where the offense isn't expecting it, you'll get that QB, regardless if your guys are great or average. That's being simplistic, of course, but if Horton can get that machine running, it will work.
 

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Hypo-----Thanks for your insight into this defensive scheme. This should be very helpful for those of us who are not knowlegable about how Pittsburgh goes about their business of playing defense. I have found your posts to be extremely well thought out and very useful to me. You are much appreciated.

I mentioned the same point about his posts...they are outstanding and worthwhile reading...
 
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Thanks guys...I mean it. I don't post very often but I try to make em count when I do.

Great Stuff.

There is one more main principle of Lebeau’s philosophy and it is the most important one according to Butlers interview with Jurecki last week. Butler said his main philosophy is – “If you try and cover everything, you will end up covering nothing.”

Also I am sure Horton will run Lebeau’s system but like any DC there will be some tweaks, the smart ones coming from a great system usually do 90% system they came from with only 10% their own tweaks. I am hoping Horton is a smart one in that regard and doesn’t try to re-invent the wheel.
Of the small tweaks I hope he makes is the use of 2 gap system on the front line. With the likes of Dockett and Campbell I am hoping he doesn’t strictly use them as 2 gap technique DE’s because they are better suited to be 1 gappers and shoot up field. Maybe a variation of 1 gap and 2 gap DE’s where one plays a 2 gap and the other plays a 1 gap depending on the play call, with the NT always playing the zero technique. Lebeau himself has actually been experimenting with that very thing ever since they draft Ziggy Hood so maybe Horton will expand on that a little bit more considering our personnel.

Awesome points Joe...especially that bold part. No defense is perfect, but I really feel with this defensive system, it puts the players in a better position to make plays. With both Clancy and Billy, I think they tried to be too perfect in their playcalls and when it worked, it worked. But when it failed it failed miserably.

As for our personnel, I agree with most of the posters in this thread, that we don't yet have all the pieces, but I don't think we're all that far off. Our DL is pretty solid as long as we can re-sign Branch and hopefully Watson. I don't think Watson is done. Our secondary I think is set up very nicely for this system, at least physically. He has more than enough speed to cover in a zone, though think his two challenges are going to be 1. Is he strong enough to make solo tackles reliably and 2. Is his head going to be in the game and in learning this defense. Michael Adams...I prefer him in zone where he can use his sneakiness to make plays as opposed to him going man up on a taller WR. AJ Jefferson I think fits this scheme to a "T" with his range and his physicality. Matt Ware and R. Johnson seems to be ok.

Our LB's are where we need the help in. But again, because of the complexities of this defense, I can see Joey Porter and Clark Haggans being held on to because they know the system. I'd love to get some studs in the draft and the homer in me wants them to start and contribute right away, but rookies don't start in Pittsburgh's defense for a reason. Lennon is not the ideal SILB but I can see him having success in this defense.

The thing that concerns me, more than even our personnel on the field, is just how efficiently can we implement this system if none of our position coaches are versed in this system? It's going to take some time to teach the position coaches who then have to teach the players.

I'll reiterate my thought that it's going to take a number of seasons to see it's full potential. We should see some overall improvement but this is going to take some time.
 

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There is talk about Wilson being able to be the "wild card" in a Lebeau style defense. Lets not forget that Kerry Rhodes has the size and ability to do the same thing, and to really confuse things, so does Daryl Washington.
 

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There is talk about Wilson being able to be the "wild card" in a Lebeau style defense. Lets not forget that Kerry Rhodes has the size and ability to do the same thing, and to really confuse things, so does Daryl Washington.

I forget Rhodes flashed the ability to get to the QB in his second season with 5 sacks, that could be interesting. Wilson is definitely the better tackler out of the two, Rhodes isn't nearly as physical either but he does a pretty good job of wrapping up from what I remember. And like you said Washington has the speed to mix things up as well, if Horton's learned as much as you'd hope playing and coaching under LeBeau for 16 years we've definitely got the talent to keep defenses guessing.
 

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Also I am sure Horton will run Lebeau’s system but like any DC there will be some tweaks, the smart ones coming from a great system usually do 90% system they came from with only 10% their own tweaks. I am hoping Horton is a smart one in that regard and doesn’t try to re-invent the wheel.

I heard him give an interview and he said most of what he'd run would be from LeBeau but that he would like to incorporate some things he learned from Jimmy Johnson.
 

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I caution everyone on expecting miracles in the first season. I would be shocked if the Cards ended up in the top third or even top half of the league in defense. The unfortunate reality is that the personel isn't in place yet.

On the elite 3-4 teams the NT and one or both OLBs are All NFL types. Williams and OB have flashed potential but relying on those guys to dominate next year is expecting too much.

Another year for talent to develop, another infusion of talent through the draft, and a year to implement the defense is necessary before you make judgements on the defense.
 

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