Injury news is depressing for 0-4 49ers

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Injury news is depressing for 0-4 (0-8 if you count preseason) 49ers

SANTA CLARA - After back-to-back drubbings by NFC West opponents and an 0-4 record to start the season, you might think it couldn't get any worse for the 49ers.
It has.

Coach Dennis Erickson began his Monday news conference by reading off a list of 18 injured players - one-third of the entire roster - that was highlighted by two of the 49ers' best defensive players.

Middle linebacker Derek Smith, who entered Sunday night's game against the St. Louis Rams as the NFL's top tackler, was kicked in the shin early and taken into the locker room for X-rays.

While the tests showed no broken bones, Smith does have torn ligaments in his ankle and could be out from two to three weeks. He is doubtful for Sunday's game against the Arizona Cardinals.

The 49ers will be without defensive end Andre Carter for even longer.

Carter missed the last three games after suffering back spasms following a Week 1 loss to the Atlanta Falcons. Monday, he had surgery to remove a cyst that was pressing against nerves in his lower back.

Although the 49ers at one time hoped to get Carter back for the Arizona game, it now appears he will be out anywhere from three to five weeks. It also leaves the 49ers desperately thin at defensive end.

Otis Leverette, who had been filling in for Carter on the right side, has been playing on a sore left ankle and is listed as doubtful for Sunday's game. Left end John Engelberger, meanwhile, has an abdominal strain and is questionable.

That leaves Brandon Whiting as the 49ers' only healthy defensive end, and even he isn't yet 100 percent after having offseason surgery to repair his left shoulder.

What that means, Erickson said, is the 49ers once again will be surfing the waiver wire this week for another defensive lineman.

"We've got to take a good look at what we're going to do," he said. "We've got to make a decision on that (today) as far as signing another defensive end."

The 49ers' defensive unit already could be dubbed the "New Name Defense," considering all the fresh faces in the locker room. After settling on their 53-man roster Sept. 5, the team has played 15 different defensive linemen, including four - Leverette, Tony Brown, James Atkins and Daleroy Stewart - who weren't with the 49ers during the preseason.

If the 49ers can't find any more outside help, Erickson said Brown and defensive tackle Bryant Young could play at defensive end or the team could move to the three-lineman, four-linebacker defense it experimented with this summer.

With Smith out of the lineup, Jeff Ulbrich will slide from his outside position to middle linebacker, while Jamie Winborn takes over for Ulbrich. Erickson also said seldom-used Saleem Rasheed could see more time at outside linebacker.

Spencer for hire - The 49ers' best rookie, through four games at least, has been cornerback Shawntae Spencer.

With Mike Rumph out for the season because of a broken bone in his forearm, Spencer will start against the Cardinals and has an opportunity to wrap up the starting job for the rest of the season.

"He's not a rookie in my opinion," fellow cornerback Ahmed Plummer said. "He's seen some of the top receivers in the league already. He's ready to go."

On the same page - Normally mild-mannered quarterback Tim Rattay was visibly upset during the third quarter Sunday night when his deep pass to rookie Rashaun Woods landed 20 yards beyond the wide receiver.

"There was a little confusion," Rattay said Monday. "I thought he'd go deep, and he broke it off."

The duo had a better connection the following quarter when Rattay was forced out of the pocket, and his receivers were forced to improvise. Woods, who was supposed to run a deep in, instead made a beeline for the corner of the end zone, where Rattay hit him for the rookie's first career touchdown catch.

Said Woods: "Every time Tim gets out of the pocket in practice, we're taught to find the open spots. That's what I did."

Et cetera - Eric Johnson leads all NFL tight ends with 28 catches and 298 yards.

• The 49ers released tackle Brent Swaggert from the practice squad and signed guard/tackle Thomas Herrion.

• Tackle Jerome Davis will rejoin the team this week after serving a four-game suspension for violating the league's substance abuse policy.
 

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Erickson was doomed from day one. It almost seems like the 49ers knew that the cap was catching up with them, so they decided to get a crappy coach to weather the storm, then fire him when they have cap money and get somebody decent.

He had such a good thing going in Oregon; I don't blame people like Saban for staying away from the NFL.
 

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Oran said:
Erickson was doomed from day one. It almost seems like the 49ers knew that the cap was catching up with them, so they decided to get a crappy coach to weather the storm, then fire him when they have cap money and get somebody decent.

He had such a good thing going in Oregon; I don't blame people like Saban for staying away from the NFL.

:thumbup: .. I think they got him on the cheap too.
 

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Oran said:
Erickson was doomed from day one. It almost seems like the 49ers knew that the cap was catching up with them, so they decided to get a crappy coach to weather the storm, then fire him when they have cap money and get somebody decent.

He had such a good thing going in Oregon; I don't blame people like Saban for staying away from the NFL.

Better watch out....Bobcat is going to get you!
 

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ajcardfan said:
Better watch out....Bobcat is going to get you!

Besides Dave Wanstat, I can't think of anohter coach besides Erikson that has had no success as an NFL coach, but was still given another shot.
 

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Feel sorry for these guys? Do you think anyone felt sorry for us two years ago or even last year? Nope, don't feel bad one bit. It's about time other teams experience the loss of personnel like we have in the past. Call me what you will, but I think it is about time we got some breaks. A 'W' is a 'W' even if the other team is hurting.
 

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TXCardinalsFan said:
Feel sorry for these guys? Do you think anyone felt sorry for us two years ago or even last year? Nope, don't feel bad one bit. It's about time other teams experience the loss of personnel like we have in the past. Call me what you will, but I think it is about time we got some breaks. A 'W' is a 'W' even if the other team is hurting.
:thumbup: :thumbup:
 

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One more thing, Erikson gets no sympathy from me. I lived in Oregon when he bolted to be the niner's coach. He didn't even hint that he was interested when asked about it and then took off. There were a lot of guys on the Oregon State team that felt abandoned because they came to OR St to play for this guy. So what comes around goes around. His karma is bad to begin off with. I am just hoping that no colleges will offer him another job once the niners fire him.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if they picked up Nix.
 

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ajcardfan said:
Better watch out....Bobcat is going to get you!
I died laughing when I read this. Cause it is so true.

Be afraid Oran, be very afraid. :D
 

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SECTION 11 said:
The Niners get no sympathy from me.
I don't care if they have to sign our flagboys.

No kidding. Every single time the Arizona Cardinals have played them up there we've been blown out. The "best" game we played was that 38-28 loss in the "Battle for first Place." But, even in that game, we were down 24-0 on the first play of the second quarter and 31-7 at halftime.
 

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SECTION 11 said:
The Niners get no sympathy from me.
I don't care if they have to sign our flagboys.

:stupid:

NONE whatsoever :thumbup:

but I am sure after the cards win that it will be the #1 excuse!!
 

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ajcardfan said:
No kidding. Every single time the Arizona Cardinals have played them up there we've been blown out. The "best" game we played was that 38-28 loss in the "Battle for first Place." But, even in that game, we were down 24-0 on the first play of the second quarter and 31-7 at halftime.


That was my fault, we got there early, I was telling all the 49er fans near me that the team was playing better, they were all telling me the only good player on the team was Jake. Fumble, pick, pick although he did have that spectacular run for the TD.

Shipp had a nice game that day but overall it was pretty bad to watch your team get blown out after telling everyone that wasn't going to happen this time.
 

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Jttsaz said:
Let's just hope it's not dejavu :hulk:

Don't think it will be, this team is different.

Plus to be safe I'm not going, I may have to tape the game and watch it later depending on when I get home.

My buddy who's a big 49er fan even declined to bet me on the game, usually he's begging me to bet but this year he thinks SF will lose.
 

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I hope we blow them out and humilate them, like they did to us when the Cards were banged up. :thumbup:
 

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We really need a sarcasm smilie. I don't have any sympathy for those dirty bastards. Hell we are missing our two best offensive players and starting, best CB.
 

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This is a pure genius by Erickson.

First, what can you do to make an 0-4 team seem even easier to beat? Point out all the injuries you have on your team. Oh woe is the 49ers. Will they even be able to field 22 starters? What a set up for the Cardinals. Dont worry Arizona. Easy win here. You probably wont even get your uniform dirty.

Secondly, even if the 49ers get drilled, Erickson has made his case to the local media that it wont be his fault.
 

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en fuego said:
This is a pure genius by Erickson.

First, what can you do to make an 0-4 team seem even easier to beat? Point out all the injuries you have on your team. Oh woe is the 49ers. Will they even be able to field 22 starters? What a set up for the Cardinals. Dont worry Arizona. Easy win here. You probably wont even get your uniform dirty.

Secondly, even if the 49ers get drilled, Erickson has made his case to the local media that it wont be his fault.
Any Cardinals coach or player, in the past 20 years or so... who has approached ANY game as an easy win...well...

They had more bong hits than Ricky Williams the day after he "retired"
 

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DevonCardsFan said:
I hope we blow them out and humilate them, like they did to us when the Cards were banged up. :thumbup:


:notworthy Man I wish we could curse on this board!!! LOL!!
 

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