Is Green a dictator ?

[Southpaw]

I feel somewhat validated about my disappointment with the Dennis Green hiring. So far he has violated the CBA with his mini camp violations. He has decided to scrub , what he calls " creature comforts " that coddle players. He seems to be pushing Rod Graves into the basement. This ain't funny people.

Reminiscent of a Banana Republic dictator. It's getting wierder and wierder. Reminds me of the Tom Coughlin act in Jacksonville.

 

[BACH]

He seems to be pushing Rod Graves into the basement. This ain't funny people.

How? I have only heard good thing about the relationship between Graves and Green.

 

[Renz]

I feel somewhat validated about my disappointment with the Dennis Green hiring. So far he has violated the CBA with his mini camp violations. He has decided to scrub , what he calls " creature comforts " that coddle players. He seems to be pushing Rod Graves into the basement. This ain't funny people.

Reminiscent of a Banana Republic dictator. It's getting wierder and wierder. Reminds me of the Tom Coughlin act in Jacksonville.

Too bad. Coughlin had no success with the Jags. Just like Green had no success with Minnesota.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Hopefully,it's a deep,dark basement that he pushes Graves into and things can get turned around a little quicker.

 

[Ottawa Card]

I'm a firm believer that "democratic-fascism" works in sports management.

Democracy inludes the inputs of management, coaches, players, opinion leaders and makers in the media, and even the fans... but, in the end - "fascism" in the form of hard and fast decisions by the Coach is what makes it work or fail.

There's is no other way to successfully approach the necessary problem solving. Coach Green understand this, and I, for one - am happy that he does.

 

[Southpaw]

I'm a firm believer that "democratic-fascism" works in sports management.

Democracy inludes the inputs of management, coaches, players, opinion leaders and makers in the media, and even the fans... but, in the end - "fascism" in the form of hard and fast decisions by the Coach is what makes it work or fail.

There's is no other way to successfully approach the necessary problem solving. Coach Green understand this, and I, for one - am happy that he does.

 

[JeffGollin]

I feel somewhat validated about my disappointment with the Dennis Green
Give me a break!

 

[MadBird]

New Flash! Wally dislikes Denny Green!

good grief....we know already.....

 

[abomb]

I think the management style required varies greatly depending on the stage of the team. This team is still very young and very inexperienced at winning NFL football games. Dennis Green was a terrific hire. Tom Coughlin may be an a-hole, but he is able to install systems that are condusive to winning NFL football games. For as much as I hated Buck Showalter as the manager of the Diamondbacks, he was the ideal hire at a time when the team was brand new.

I am tired of reading about how "DG violated the CBA". Who cares? I would be willing to bet that other teams do the same thing. If it were a big deal, I bet we would see the story on Sportscenter and every other sizzle-hungry media outlet. If it equates to winning games on Sunday, I am all for it. Taking away the posh player benefits? I bet DG makes the players earn them, not just handing out backrubs and lollipops like Coach Mac did.

Just my opinion.

A-Bomb
"Wanna hear a joke?"

 

[MadCardDisease]

No, Green is not a Dictator. He is one of the winningest coaches in the NFL.

 

[100%CardsFan]

I think dictator is a pretty strong word...Hitler, Stalin,....Green. I dont think so.

 

[Bobcat]

I think the management style required varies greatly depending on the stage of the team. This team is still very young and very inexperienced at winning NFL football games. Dennis Green was a terrific hire. Tom Coughlin may be an a-hole, but he is able to install systems that are condusive to winning NFL football games. For as much as I hated Buck Showalter as the manager of the Diamondbacks, he was the ideal hire at a time when the team was brand new.

I am tired of reading about how "DG violated the CBA". Who cares? I would be willing to bet that other teams do the same thing. If it were a big deal, I bet we would see the story on Sportscenter and every other sizzle-hungry media outlet. If it equates to winning games on Sunday, I am all for it. Taking away the posh player benefits? I bet DG makes the players earn them, not just handing out backrubs and lollipops like Coach Mac did.

Just my opinion.

A-Bomb
"Wanna hear a joke?"

I totally agree with you on this matter!!! Who cares if "DG violated the CBA".
Mac left him with a bunch of preschoolers. ie. Big. If it was up to me I would trade him and draft Gallery. Big doen't want to be a team player, he is just out for Big.

We need more people with Quan's atitude!!!


Allan

 

[Tangodnzr]

For obvious reasons I think a case could be made that maybe Dennis Green needs to learn a little more about nutrition and what a good nutritioinist can do, himself.

I would only hope that his comment "Do I look like......" was only misinterpreted or he was simply trying to display a little humor.

If not, some of my earlier concerns in regard to him may need to get drug back out of the closet. However, unlike Wally I would feel no "vindication" what so ever in that regard.

Being a leader with a "firm" hand is not equivalent to being an ego maniac out of control in the "power" dept.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Hopefully,it's a deep,dark basement that he pushes Graves into and things can get turned around a little quicker.

....which would most likely be a higher elevation than where you normally reside.

 

[CatBoxBackFan]

Reminiscent of a Banana Republic dictator. It's getting wierder and wierder . Reminds me of the Tom Coughlin act in Jacksonville.

BIM alert BIM alert

 

[Harpo]

I'm not jumping on Green here, but remember, he was also ready to run the players through a week long combine to test their strength, speed, etc. When word spread the union stepped in and nixed his plans. He is definitely pushing the envelope. I just hope he doesn't go over the edge (and I'm fearful that getting rid of people who help keep players healthy and fit is doing just that)

 

[danny l]

Is Green a dictator? In the connotation in which this question was used, I hope so. If you look at the successful NFL coaches I think that being in charge and being able to put fear into the players is the one common thread. Bellichek, Shannahan, "the Tuna", the list can go on and on. Unfortunately, players don't seem to perform for "nice guy" coaches. You might think that someone like Vermeil would fit in the nice guy coach category, but on his teams I will guarantee you that it is his way or the highway. As far is Green is concerned, I don't particularly want to like the guy. I just want him to WIN!!!!!

 

[Tangodnzr]

Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good. --Joe Paterno

 

[Pariah]

Say what you will about dictators, they're usually good at getting their countries out of depressions.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Say what you will about dictators, they're usually good at getting their countries out of depressions.

Which is like shooting yourself because you are crippled.

 

[CardLogic]

Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good. --Joe Paterno

Love the JoePa quote, but one thing I will guarantee.... Paterno runs a program one way; HIS WAY, i.e. - dictator!

 

[Skkorpion]

Denny Green is just what this team needed. Dictator? When he needs to be but he's also smart, bending over backward not to lose Leonard Davis.

Rod Graves is an organizer and a consensus builder and has the complete trust of management and Rod is thrilled to have been able to hire Denny Green. He's told me so and Rod Graves doesn't play politics.

Rod also has a self-effacing ego and the smarts to let Green play the lead in talent selection. Rod is THE perfect GM for Denny Green - someone who will channel Denny but not interfere with his need for control and visabilty in the press.

Wally, you are so wrong - again. It must be tough being you.

 

[Russ Smith]

I feel somewhat validated about my disappointment with the Dennis Green hiring. So far he has violated the CBA with his mini camp violations. He has decided to scrub , what he calls " creature comforts " that coddle players. He seems to be pushing Rod Graves into the basement. This ain't funny people.

Reminiscent of a Banana Republic dictator. It's getting wierder and wierder. Reminds me of the Tom Coughlin act in Jacksonville.

I don't like the violations of the CBA stuff, but I do think Green has "earned" the right to be something of a dictator, that's why we brought him in, he wins. He needs to obey the CBA, and it sounds like he has in fact stopped doing that stuff in the 2nd minicamp, but I think he has earned the right to ruffle a few feathers.

I disagree with cutting Blake so suddenly, especially now that King is apparently looking not so good, but Dennis Green has a LONG history of success with QB's in the NFL so I have to trust in his judgement and assume he had a valid reason for dumping Blake so soon.

Hopefully King is just rusty or has a sore arm, if he isn't, history says Green will make a solid backup out of Parsons or bring in someone else.

That's why I post so infrequently about Josh now, my impression of his ability skyrocketed the day we hired Dennis Green.

 

[Russ Smith]

I am tired of reading about how "DG violated the CBA". Who cares? I would be willing to bet that other teams do the same thing. If it were a big deal, I bet we would see the story on Sportscenter and every other sizzle-hungry media outlet. If it equates to winning games on Sunday, I am all for it. Taking away the posh player benefits? I bet DG makes the players earn them, not just handing out backrubs and lollipops like Coach Mac did.

Just my opinion.

A-Bomb
"Wanna hear a joke?"

Doubt it. First Green coaches the Cards, sportscenter ignores us. Second, Green used to work for ESPN, my guess is they're willing to cut him a bit of slack in that regard.

That said, if he did the same thing in New York and players grumbled, it'd be all over ESPN.

I'm all for more discipline, but I sure don't want the league to step in and strip us of a draft pick because Green wanted to push the envelope. It appears he's figured this out and scaled it back. As others have said message sent and received loud and clear.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

I.

That's why I post so infrequently about Josh now, my impression of his ability skyrocketed the day we hired Dennis Green.

I need to learn that same self control.

Although I agree with you on Josh. If he has it in him Green and his scheme will bring it out. I just cant help but continually relapsing into a state of 'Plummer-ism' where there is no competition, and Plummer is always annointed the starter regardless of how bad he plays. And of course, no foreseeable backup plan in the works!

I still say you gotta draft a QB at #3!