Is it kinda funny that Kobe shot more FT's then our entire team!?!?!

[Feeble Mcjackson]

Look, I know that Kobe was aggresive and took it to the whole tonight. but as a team the Lakers shot 28 free throws to the suns 12. Kobe shot 13 by himself.

After several phantom calls (especially against Amare) the officials took the suns out of the game. The reason the defense wasnt there was because we were afraid anything would do would ring up a foul!

Pretty unbelievable if you ask me. I hope this doesnt turn into a total screw job like the Mav's/Heat Finals last year.

 

[green machine]

It won't be a screw job because the Suns can handle adversity, unlike the spineless Mavericks.

As far as the calls, sure they didn't help the Suns. After the big early run the refs tightened things up which never helps the Suns.

Then the Lakers got aggressive and went to the hole, and when Kobe goes to the hoop he gets calls. That's how it always is and always will be. The Suns' biggest problem was without Amare being aggressive they didn't get the calls that they usually do. Couple that with Marion being a total wuss out there and no, nobody got any calls.

But to imply the Suns lost because of the refs, well, I can't agree with you there.

 

[dodie53]

spineless mavs..

true true

 

[supernova]

Anyone who thinks this game was something approaching fair is an idiot. It's obvious who the league wanted to win this game and they did. Tough it up, come out firing in game 4.

 

[CardNots]

Pretty evident to me. Just call a few quick calls on Amare and it opens up the middle. I will say the Lakers were much more aggressive on defense than the first two games. Not to worry, just the ups and downs of the playoffs.

 

[greensborohill]

It won't be a screw job because the Suns can handle adversity, unlike the spineless Mavericks.

As far as the calls, sure they didn't help the Suns. After the big early run the refs tightened things up which never helps the Suns.

Then the Lakers got aggressive and went to the hole, and when Kobe goes to the hoop he gets calls. That's how it always is and always will be. The Suns' biggest problem was without Amare being aggressive they didn't get the calls that they usually do. Couple that with Marion being a total wuss out there and no, nobody got any calls.

But to imply the Suns lost because of the refs, well, I can't agree with you there.

Spineless?

Down 0-2 versus Houston. . we win series

Down 0-1 versus Spurs . . . we win series

Down 0-1 versus Suns. .. we win series

Down 17 to Suns in game six of WCF we win game

Funny, you guys love giving up 17 point leads don't you?

If anything, the Suns show more "spineless" qualities than the Mavs do by far.

 

[greensborohill]

Down 0-1 to Golden State. . . . WE WILL win the series

 

[greensborohill]

It won't be a screw job because the Suns can handle adversity, unlike the spineless Mavericks.

As far as the calls, sure they didn't help the Suns. After the big early run the refs tightened things up which never helps the Suns.

Then the Lakers got aggressive and went to the hole, and when Kobe goes to the hoop he gets calls. That's how it always is and always will be. The Suns' biggest problem was without Amare being aggressive they didn't get the calls that they usually do. Couple that with Marion being a total wuss out there and no, nobody got any calls.

But to imply the Suns lost because of the refs, well, I can't agree with you there.

How'd you handle that 17 point lead you had against us in game 6 last year? Pretty well I think, right?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

This game isn't really about fair officiating, it is about a few things really.

1. Amare getting two quick fouls in the 1st quarter. Both of Amare's calls were ticky tack, but fouls nonetheless. Once Amare was gone, the middle opened up for the Lakers, and our offensive spacing was horrible. We was never able to get back into sync after the 1st.

2. Marion disappeared. With the firepower that we have, Marion doesn't have to be a 20/10 guy everynight. If you want to score 10 points, fine. You'd better not allow your man (Odom) go off for 18 and 16 with 6 offensive rebounds. His effort on the defensive glass rivaled Diaw's last night.

3. Poor offensive spacing. Once the Lakers decided to switch on Nash, and play the high pick and roll, the offense fell apart. Yes, the refs allowed Odom to be physical on the perimeter, but that doesn't excuse our spacing. If Odom switches to Nash after the P&R, then Nash should be able to find Amare, when Farmar, Parker was on him, and he didn't.

4. No one was aggressive on the offensive end of the ball, not even Barbosa. Barbosa kept us in the game with his 3 point shooting, but he drove to the basket 2 or 3 times all game. He needed to be much more aggressive.

5. Our second unit played like crap. When Nash had to take his customary rests, our team was completely flat. No one moved the ball, and I doubt that the ball was passed more than 3 times in any one possession all night.


All that said, the Suns were still tied with 2 minutes to go. The Suns should have, and could have won this game. There were a lot of other factors besides the refs. The foul calling was Laker biased, but the Suns won't get any calls, if you continue to shoot jumpshots.

Let's not blame the refs for the loss last night. We are better than that.

 

[arwillan]

Spineless?

Down 0-2 versus Houston. . we win series

Down 0-1 versus Spurs . . . we win series

Down 0-1 versus Suns. .. we win series

Down 17 to Suns in game six of WCF we win game

Funny, you guys love giving up 17 point leads don't you?

If anything, the Suns show more "spineless" qualities than the Mavs do by far.

how about miami's spine?

down 0-2 to the mavericks. they WIN the FINALS


and phx?

down 1-3 to LAL and WIN

 

[greensborohill]

how about miami's spine?

down 0-2 to the mavericks. they WIN the FINALS


and phx?

down 1-3 to LAL and WIN

Regardless of all of that. I think Dallas has been tested enough to know that they are not spineless. So I would appreciate it if all of you just leave it be. If not, I can just keep reminding you of how you had a game seven forced last year but choked it away.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Regardless of all of that. I think Dallas has been tested enough to know that they are not spineless. So I would appreciate it if all of you just leave it be. If not, I can just keep reminding you of how you had a game seven forced last year but choked it away.

If anyone, you should not be the one to talk about being spineless. You only show up after a Mavs win, or Suns loss.

 

[greensborohill]

If anyone, you should not be the one to talk about being spineless. You only show up after a Mavs win, or Suns loss.

I never said I wasn't a troll buddy. And that's what trolls do.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I never said I wasn't a troll buddy. And that's what trolls do.

Your talk about being spineless is truly ironic then. Thanks for that.

 

[Jay Cardinal]

Regardless of all of that. I think Dallas has been tested enough to know that they are not spineless. So I would appreciate it if all of you just leave it be. If not, I can just keep reminding you of how you had a game seven forced last year but choked it away.

Sorry, bud but the Mavs get no free respect around here, maybe you have the wrong board. They have to play tough and stop whining before they start getting respect from here.

Beating the Suns without Amare and Bell was good, but the Mavs need to beat our full strength team in the playoffs before I start taking them as an equal. And don't worry Jellyfish Dirk will be given a spine once he finally makes some clutch shots in the fourth instead of his usual hide-under-the-table routine.

 

[jenna2891]

Down 0-1 to Golden State. . . . WE WILL win the series

really? the number one team in the league will come back from a devastating one game behind to beat the team that barely made the playoffs? i'm sorry, i'll have to see it to believe it. if that happens it'll be the comeback story of the century. disney will probably make a movie out of it.

 

[Joe Mama]

Come on people. I've seen some poor officiating that cost the Phoenix Suns a victory in the playoffs, but that just wasn't the case last night. There were calls/no calls that could have gone the other way the entire game for both teams... just like every game.

Kobe Bryant shot more free throws than the Phoenix Suns because he got to the basket at will and was fouled a lot. The Lakers had a good defensive plan last night. They doubled Nash/Barbosa aggressively on the pick and roll conmen neither of those guys could get rid of the ball.

They lost the game because Boris Diaw threw the ball out to the perimeter every time he got near the basket even if he was about to draw a foul or get an easy basket. They lost because Shawn Marion was completely outplayed by Lamar Odom. They lost because the Lakers got smart and took advantage of their size advantage at every position by regularly getting the ball down to the post.

Don't blame the referees. They were fine.

Joe

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Is it kinda funny that Kobe shot more FT's then our entire team!?!?!

Not when the Lakers had 13 more offesive rebounds, fewer turnovers, shot less 3's, and had double the points in the paint.

I also did not hear everyone claiming a pro-Suns conspiracy when we shot 13 more FT's in Game 1.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

This game isn't really about fair officiating, it is about a few things really.

1. Amare getting two quick fouls in the 1st quarter. Both of Amare's calls were ticky tack, but fouls nonetheless. Once Amare was gone, the middle opened up for the Lakers, and our offensive spacing was horrible. We was never able to get back into sync after the 1st.

2. Marion disappeared. With the firepower that we have, Marion doesn't have to be a 20/10 guy everynight. If you want to score 10 points, fine. You'd better not allow your man (Odom) go off for 18 and 16 with 6 offensive rebounds. His effort on the defensive glass rivaled Diaw's last night.

3. Poor offensive spacing. Once the Lakers decided to switch on Nash, and play the high pick and roll, the offense fell apart. Yes, the refs allowed Odom to be physical on the perimeter, but that doesn't excuse our spacing. If Odom switches to Nash after the P&R, then Nash should be able to find Amare, when Farmar, Parker was on him, and he didn't.

4. No one was aggressive on the offensive end of the ball, not even Barbosa. Barbosa kept us in the game with his 3 point shooting, but he drove to the basket 2 or 3 times all game. He needed to be much more aggressive.

5. Our second unit played like crap. When Nash had to take his customary rests, our team was completely flat. No one moved the ball, and I doubt that the ball was passed more than 3 times in any one possession all night.


All that said, the Suns were still tied with 2 minutes to go. The Suns should have, and could have won this game. There were a lot of other factors besides the refs. The foul calling was Laker biased, but the Suns won't get any calls, if you continue to shoot jumpshots.

Let's not blame the refs for the loss last night. We are better than that.

Couldn't agree more. The reason the Lakers were getting the calls was because they were being the aggressor. If you come out determined to take it to your opponent, you're going to get the benefit of the doubt. That's no secret in basketball, because it happens in every game.

Simply put, the Lakers were hungrir than us. They beat us convincingly in just about every hustle stat there is- how many teams win when they give up 19 offensive rebounds when they themselves only get 6? Or when they get outscored from the charity stripe by 14?

The good news is, despite all this, we had a chance to steal this game. The Lakers played their absolute best and were still only able to put this game away for good after a series of missed 3s by the Suns. I expect we'll to take the next 2 games and wrap up the series.

 

[TucsonDevil]

I agree with earlier sentiments, let's not blame the refs; they generally favor the more aggressive team. Besides, they gave a couple of close calls to the Suns (one in particular was a charge against Kobe).

The Suns need to drive the lane more in order to draw fouls. I don't think they will make that mistake in Game 4 - that is the best way to 'unclog' the lane, put those players on the bench with quick fouls. Kwame, Odom, and others just stood in the lane at long stretches, and we did nothing but shoot jumpers.

The one area that concerned me was this... We went to great lengths to tell the world how our SIZE is back this year, and thus the Lakers don't have an advantage. However, during the 4th quarter when we needed to make some stops, KT and Amare are both sitting on the bench. Yes, I realize Amare had 4 fouls, but why not put him back in? What is the worst that can happen? He fouls out and we lose? Oh, yeah, we lost anyway. KT only played 11 minutes, while that soft Frenchman played 23 ineffective, invisible minutes. I am tired of Diaw... just tired of him. And, by the looks of it, he is tired as well.

One last thing. Where was the League MVP last night? If it is fair to call out the Invisible Act that Dirk has been pulling, how about Nash last night? Take away the 1st quarter and he was horrible. Is he hurt?

 

[jenna2891]

This game isn't really about fair officiating, it is about a few things really.

1. Amare getting two quick fouls in the 1st quarter. Both of Amare's calls were ticky tack, but fouls nonetheless. Once Amare was gone, the middle opened up for the Lakers, and our offensive spacing was horrible. We was never able to get back into sync after the 1st.

2. Marion disappeared. With the firepower that we have, Marion doesn't have to be a 20/10 guy everynight. If you want to score 10 points, fine. You'd better not allow your man (Odom) go off for 18 and 16 with 6 offensive rebounds. His effort on the defensive glass rivaled Diaw's last night.

3. Poor offensive spacing. Once the Lakers decided to switch on Nash, and play the high pick and roll, the offense fell apart. Yes, the refs allowed Odom to be physical on the perimeter, but that doesn't excuse our spacing. If Odom switches to Nash after the P&R, then Nash should be able to find Amare, when Farmar, Parker was on him, and he didn't.

4. No one was aggressive on the offensive end of the ball, not even Barbosa. Barbosa kept us in the game with his 3 point shooting, but he drove to the basket 2 or 3 times all game. He needed to be much more aggressive.

5. Our second unit played like crap. When Nash had to take his customary rests, our team was completely flat. No one moved the ball, and I doubt that the ball was passed more than 3 times in any one possession all night.


All that said, the Suns were still tied with 2 minutes to go. The Suns should have, and could have won this game. There were a lot of other factors besides the refs. The foul calling was Laker biased, but the Suns won't get any calls, if you continue to shoot jumpshots.

Let's not blame the refs for the loss last night. We are better than that.

jenna gives this a 5/5.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

jenna gives this a 5/5.

That is a first from you. DCR feels honored.

 

[Mulli]

Mulli nominates Jenna as the newest member of Post Rating International.

 

[Covert Rain]

Regardless of all of that. I think Dallas has been tested enough to know that they are not spineless. So I would appreciate it if all of you just leave it be. If not, I can just keep reminding you of how you had a game seven forced last year but choked it away.

Regardless of that?? LMAO. They are not even comparible. The Mavs choke job in the finals is already considered one of the biggest choke jobs in FINALS history. Typical troll reasoning.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Mulli nominates Jenna as the newest member of Post Rating International.

As President and CEO, DCR approves.