Is Jeff Hornacek the right choice for the Suns?

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It has nothing to do with being in a hurry. It is blatant lack of respect for the English language. In a hurry, I may mistype something. Your vs. you're and there vs. their vs. they're is beyond that.

It's beyond that if you make the mistake hundreds of times in a row. Anyone can make it once in a while.

My feeling is, if you want other people to take you and your thoughts seriously, you should show that you take your own thoughts seriously. Step One is paying attention enough to avoid obvious grammatical errors. Otherwise, you're just talking out of your [censored], so why should I pay you any attention?
 

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Not really, it's a basketball forum and the last thing I care about is grammar.

As for your question, I know plenty of post graduate educated people who don't use the "your" and "you're" properly so maybe not. So your perhaps wrong there and your not gonna catch me caring much about it either :D

I would encourage you to care, young man. Whether it's a basketball forum, a professional environment, or something else, proper grammar gives you more credibility.

Writing on a basketball forum is a very good practice for writing things that matter (resumes, cover letters, business plans, or any kind of professional correspondence.)

Don't be like everyone else. Be better!
 
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It has nothing to do with being in a hurry. It is blatant lack of respect for the English language. In a hurry, I may mistype something. Your vs. you're and there vs. their vs. they're is beyond that.

You aren't accounting for the fact that many people post from their phones and a lot of times spell check will change "your" to "you're" or vice versa incorrectly because it incorrectly guesses what you type next.
 

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You aren't accounting for the fact that many people post from their phones and a lot of times spell check will change "your" to "you're" or vice versa incorrectly because it incorrectly guesses what you type next.

I thought you just said you didn't care. Now you're saying it's your phone's fault. Which is it?
 
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I thought you just said you didn't care. Now you're saying it's your phone's fault. Which is it?

My phone auto corrects it often but I don't want to place all the blame on my phone for that because I type it like that at times when the auto correct doesn't change it as well.

And yes I don't care about it much, and apparently certainly not as much as you.
 

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I need to get a typing phone... I have nothing to blame for the mistakes that appear in my posts. I can blame my glasses once in a while - when I'm too lazy to get my reading glasses
 

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Times are bad when grammar draws as much attention as the Suns.
 

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And yes I don't care about it much, and apparently certainly not as much as you.

The reason you say you don't care is that you don't know the difference. If you did, it wouldn't take any more work to do it correctly, and you'd default to that.
 

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My phone auto-corrected my posts when I said the Suns should draft Tskitishvili over Amare back in the day. Same thing happened when I said Dragic was going to average 20 and 13 or 23 and 10 for Miami, or whatever stupid thing I said.
 

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My phone auto-corrected my posts when I said the Suns should draft Tskitishvili over Amare back in the day. Same thing happened when I said Dragic was going to average 20 and 13 or 23 and 10 for Miami, or whatever stupid thing I said.

Hey, well I said that Tiago Splitter sucks and would never play in the NBA, and we saw how wrong that was. I mean, he's logged, what, a few hundred games by now, and made an impact in at least four of them.
 
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I hope McD's spell check screwed him when he texted Sarver saying "Lets hire Hornacek" and what he actually meant was "Lets hire Budenholzer/Kerr (familiarity with the org too) or even Stan Van Gundy".

Because I get the feeling that if Hornacek gets the axe, McD will still be here and be responsible for picking the next coach.
 

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Hey, well I said that Tiago Splitter sucks and would never play in the NBA, and we saw how wrong that was. I mean, he's logged, what, a few hundred games by now, and made an impact in at least four of them.

If I remember correctly, that troll (Manu-something) used to show up every time Splitter would have a good game. I think he showed up about four times in five years.
 
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Ryan McDonough wants to select a coach who commands respect and will teach effectively to maximize player talent.

"The most important thing to find in our head coach is someone who is a leader," McDonough said. "We need someone who commands the respect of the players, commands the respect of the entire organization. We also need someone who is a teacher, who can help our young players develop and get better and maximize their individual talent."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...omNba-TopStories+(Sports+-+NBA+-+Top+Stories)

I'm not sure Hornacek has turned into the coach that McD envisioned...
 

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I would much rather read the your vs you're conversation than the revisionist history about Hornacek being a "tweener" guard.

"Tweener" a player who does not have the size to play one position or the skills to play the other.

"Combo" a player who has the ability to play two positions effectively.

Hornacek could play both positions effectively and did so in a LONG NBA career on successful teams. He played alongside KJ and then John Stockton for most of his career.

Sure, I would have loved to have Kerr as the head coach, but the relationship between Kerr and Sarver would not have allowed that. That was not McD's doing.

"Off with their heads, off with their heads" I feel like I am in some weird dream.
 

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I feel that Hornacek is a good teacher as he learned from his dad. However, this team needs a disciplinarian type of coach as it lacks discipline and Hornacek is too passive.
 

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I feel that Hornacek is a good teacher as he learned from his dad. However, this team needs a disciplinarian type of coach as it lacks discipline and Hornacek is too passive.

We just need to get rid of Markieff for a decent player. I am hoping that will develop soon.
 

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I feel that Hornacek is a good teacher as he learned from his dad. However, this team needs a disciplinarian type of coach as it lacks discipline and Hornacek is too passive.

A disciplinarian in the NBA is overrated and unlikely to succeed long term. This isn't college or HS. These guys are professionals, it is their job. They should come to work motivated.

Putting the hammer down on players is likely to backfire. This is where veterans are needed to police their teammates.
 

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A disciplinarian in the NBA is overrated and unlikely to succeed long term. This isn't college or HS. These guys are professionals, it is their job. They should come to work motivated.

Putting the hammer down on players is likely to backfire. This is where veterans are needed to police their teammates.

Absolutely correct. The Suns did the right thing in adding Chandler for that purpose. The other way you police players is to ship them off.
 

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It wasnt that long ago that everybody complained about the Suns always bringing in good character guys.
 

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I would much rather read the your vs you're conversation than the revisionist history about Hornacek being a "tweener" guard.

"Tweener" a player who does not have the size to play one position or the skills to play the other.

"Combo" a player who has the ability to play two positions effectively.

Hornacek could play both positions effectively and did so in a LONG NBA career on successful teams. He played alongside KJ and then John Stockton for most of his career.

Sure, I would have loved to have Kerr as the head coach, but the relationship between Kerr and Sarver would not have allowed that. That was not McD's doing.

"Off with their heads, off with their heads" I feel like I am in some weird dream.

A disciplinarian in the NBA is overrated and unlikely to succeed long term. This isn't college or HS. These guys are professionals, it is their job. They should come to work motivated.

Putting the hammer down on players is likely to backfire. This is where veterans are needed to police their teammates.

Absolutely correct. The Suns did the right thing in adding Chandler for that purpose. The other way you police players is to ship them off.

It wasnt that long ago that everybody complained about the Suns always bringing in good character guys.

Each of these is worth repeating IMO.
 

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Hornacek could play both positions effectively and did so in a LONG NBA career on successful teams. He played alongside KJ and then John Stockton for most of his career.
With the exception of golf and bowling, success in sports doesn't matter how effective you are. It is whether you play better than your opponent in close contact competition to varying degrees.

Jeff Hornacek was a pretty player at either Shooting Guard or Point Guard. But he was rarely the best Guard on the court. And he never led his teams to steady improvement through the long career to which you referred.

As a player, Horny was what he was. A good man on a small-market mentality team. And so he is proving to be as a Head Coach. Unfortunately, the best a fan can hope for is being entertained.

Sadly, that is the legacy of the Suns . . . and the Jazz. And the Mavs until Tyson Chandler led them to a Championship (with Nowitski giving him better support than the Suns have).
 

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