Is Levar Fisher going to play next year?

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Anyone know where he stands with his injury?

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Wildman that one dude would know. I hope Fisher gets to start this year with Fredrickson gone. Thompson, Fisher and McKinnon would be a good group of LB's. I would like to also see the Cards add another Vet to the group as well

 

[Ed B]

Levar Fisher is going to break some of your little hearts......

So far as I've read, his surgery was flawless but I'm not sure if it's the kind of problem that will recur or was a one-time deal.

In 5 years it's going to make for interesting debate to see if Fisher, Stone, or Rutledge was the worst 2nd rounder.

 

[SweetD]

Originally posted by DevonCardsFan
Wildman that one dude would know. I hope Fisher gets to start this year with Fredrickson gone. Thompson, Fisher and McKinnon would be a good group of LB's. I would like to also see the Cards add another Vet to the group as well

Were did Fredrickson go? Sorry I must have missed this one.

 

[Ed B]

Originally posted by SweetD
Were did Fredrickson go? Sorry I must have missed this one.

And isn't James Darling a veteran?

Devon I think you missed the dartboard with this one!

 

[green machine]

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Originally posted by SweetD
Were did Fredrickson go? Sorry I must have missed this one.

Frederickson is a free agent, and depending on how much he wants he might not be back.

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[Goldfield]

Originally posted by Ed B
Levar Fisher is going to break some of your little hearts......

So far as I've read, his surgery was flawless but I'm not sure if it's the kind of problem that will recur or was a one-time deal.

In 5 years it's going to make for interesting debate to see if Fisher, Stone, or Rutledge was the worst 2nd rounder.

LMAO ahh man I agree with alot of your posts but C'mon ED.

Fisher has allready shown ALOT more than the other 2 guys(that still isnt sayin much )...

If we get a solid D line going our LB's will be just fine...

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Originally posted by Ed B
And isn't James Darling a veteran?

Devon I think you missed the dartboard with this one!

Fredrickson is a free agent as we speak, James Darling is more of a special teams guy, I don't think he will be used in the rotation heavily unless there is an injury. So I dont think I'm off at all.

 

[Ed B]

Originally posted by BEERZ
LMAO ahh man I agree with alot of your posts but C'mon ED.

Fisher has allready shown ALOT more than the other 2 guys(that still isnt sayin much )...

If we get a solid D line going our LB's will be just fine...

What did he show? Aside from "no instincts at all" and the ability to go on IR?

Come on, I'm not writing the guy off, he could turn into a damn Pro Bowler but if you think this guy showed ANYTHING last year, take the rosey glasses off.

This is a classic cardinal draft pick that disappointed EVERYONE but no one was willing to admit it, I remember being in the chat room on draft day and when he was picked every single person said "Who? Oh man, not another midget LB" and within 5 minutes everyone had put themselves into "Homer mode" and was praising him.

He's small, he has an injury history, and he ran the wrong way on about 70% of the defensive plays he was on the field for last year. I'll send the tapes to anyone who cares to dispute that.

 

[JeffGollin]

What did he show? Aside from "no instincts at all" and the ability to go on IR?
When healthy, he was the quickest missile into the enemy backfield I've seen on the Cards in a long while.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Ed B
He's small, he has an injury history, and he ran the wrong way on about 70% of the defensive plays he was on the field for last year. I'll send the tapes to anyone who cares to dispute that.

Look, LB might be the hardest D position to learn in the NFL. Look how long it took N. Harris to learn in Oak-Town. He missed a lot of action, but I expect him to make The Leap this season. Obviously, he was impressing a lot of people in camp, and I think that we could have a LB corps like Denver has (under-sized, fast guys) if we can keep 'em on the field and if the D-Line could produce anything more than pancakes.

 

[mdsisquo]

Originally posted by Ed B
What did he show? Aside from "no instincts at all" and the ability to go on IR?

Come on, I'm not writing the guy off, he could turn into a damn Pro Bowler but if you think this guy showed ANYTHING last year, take the rosey glasses off.

This is a classic cardinal draft pick that disappointed EVERYONE but no one was willing to admit it, I remember being in the chat room on draft day and when he was picked every single person said "Who? Oh man, not another midget LB" and within 5 minutes everyone had put themselves into "Homer mode" and was praising him.

He's small, he has an injury history, and he ran the wrong way on about 70% of the defensive plays he was on the field for last year. I'll send the tapes to anyone who cares to dispute that.

Sorry Ed, I have to disagree with you. Stone has never had enough talent to even sniff a starting role. Ditto Rut. While never starting (I believe, maybe he did for a game or two) he was in on several formations and you can't argue with the guys speed. I actually thought the exact opposite of you, great football instincts. But he's just too green, needs more playing time. If you will really send the tapes, I would love to watch them. I'll even write an article on Fisher calling it like I see it.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Originally posted by Ed B
He's small, he has an injury history, and he ran the wrong way on about 70% of the defensive plays he was on the field for last year. I'll send the tapes to anyone who cares to dispute that.

I'm game! I love blooper reels!

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think Ed is actually right and other than Wildman, I might be the biggest fan on this board for Levar Fisher. I was ecstatic when we drafted him last year, and he was the guy I wanted all along in the second round.

Fisher was out of position a lot last year, I agree with Ed 100%. He also has a history of nagging injuries. With that said, I think that if he can stay healthy and learn to be an NFL defender, he will be a very good player.

Even when he was out of position last year he still had the make up ability. I agree with Jeff, since I've watched the Cards (which admittedly isn't that long) he is the single quickest and most aggressive player I've seen. He is a boom or bust player, that unlike Ed, I won't write off.....but it is getting close to that point...

 

[az643dp]

I disagree with Ed in the fact about Levar not showing anything. I thought that he showed an ability to fly to the ball an knock the crap out of his opponent. Unfortunately he was out of control most of the time, but I think that can be corrected.

I hope he can stay healthy because I truly believe that he can be an above average linebacker and a special teams monster.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Fisher has great natural instincts, if he gets the head game down, he could end up being a ballhawk. Fisher will make a name for himself, giv him a chance, he will surprise us.

 

[Wildman©]

I would like a copy of your Fisher tapes, Ed.

Send them to:

Mickey Edwards
125 Riverside Drive
Beaufort, NC 28516

I would also be interested in your commentary on what he was doing wrong on selected plays (your choice), what he should have been doing on those plays and maybe even your take on the one or two plays he reacted correctly during the season.

No disrespect intended.... I am serious.
Feel free to include the preseason.

 

[maddogkf]

Break it down there Wildman and let us know what you find. I'd like to hear how a coach breaks down the perfomance...maybe have a streaming video with commentary?

 

[jf-08]

Originally posted by Wildman©
I would like a copy of your Fisher tapes, Ed.

Send them to:

Mickey Edwards
125 Riverside Drive
Beaufort, NC 28516

I would also be interested in your commentary on what he was doing wrong on selected plays (your choice), what he should have been doing on those plays and maybe even your take on the one or two plays he reacted correctly during the season.

No disrespect intended.... I am serious.
Feel free to include the preseason.

HA! Wildman knows better than anyone Fish's abilities. As he had pointed out several times before, the injuries he has sustained were not nagging little injuries. Some have been real fluke injuries. But he has always come back and played like a missle. I think with another training camp behind him, I would be surprised if he WASN'T our starter @ OLB.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Most of his mistakes were biting on play action and misdirection. Those are coachable mistakes, and the type of mistakes that a player can overcome in one training camp.

As I said before, if he can stay healthy and learn to be an NFL caliber defender (not just an NFL caliber athlete), I truly feel he can not only be a good LB, but a Pro Bowl-level LB.

 

[Ed B]

OK well oddly enough I think most of you are agreeing with me. The guy has

1. Assloads of speed
2. The ability to lay the lumber
3. Tenacity

I am not writing him off. i never said he was a bust. I said he hasn't done anything as of yet.

When I said "football instincts" I mean biting on fakes, over-running plays, and overpursuing. A lot of you agreed with that by saying he was indeed out of position a lot.

The guy is by no means a "bust" but his injury (knee injuries at that young of an age always have to make you worry) coupled with his lack of "refinement" or whatever you want to call it last year made it very clear, at least to me, that this guy was/is not ready to leap into the starting lineup and make an immediate impact.

 

[Wildman©]

Krang:

I saw a lot of LBs (and not just Cardinal LBs) biting on play action and misdirection... and I agree that those types of mistakes can be remedied through coaching. I would also add that more playing time can help correct those mistakes. It has been my experience that limited playing time, more often than not, contributes to making those types of mistakes. There is no substitute for actual game experience. It is very hard (probably impossible) to simulate those conditions during practice time. Having said that, it is imperative that a player be and remain as healthy as possible. I can assure you that Fish is doing his part on that endeavor. I believe that the "nagging injury" that put Fish on IR this past season was a result of his preseason injury being incompletely treated... small fragments were overlooked when his knee was scoped.

In any event, he looked fine when I saw him last... about 3 weeks ago. He said the knee felt great.

 

[Ed B]

Originally posted by Wildman©
I would like a copy of your Fisher tapes, Ed.

Send them to:

Mickey Edwards
125 Riverside Drive
Beaufort, NC 28516

I would also be interested in your commentary on what he was doing wrong on selected plays (your choice), what he should have been doing on those plays and maybe even your take on the one or two plays he reacted correctly during the season.

No disrespect intended.... I am serious.
Feel free to include the preseason.

Wildman, I know better than to argue this point with you.

I'm not a football expert and not claiming to be, but when a LB crashes into the backfield to hit the RB on a play-action fake and lets a receiver run right by him, I think it's safe to say he was out of position. I noticed that a few times with Fisher......as well as just about any other LB on the team.

My comment was specifically addressing <b>last season</b>. People are talking about the guy like he had a huge impact and I think that's revisionist history. He was just a raw-as-meat rookie who looked lost sometimes.

My comments in no way implied that Fisher isn't going to get better or can't start. I just like to keep things realistic. Anyone who wants to say "I think Levar Fisher is going to be awesome this year" isn't going to get an argument from me, because that's a valid opinion as any, but when people say "Levar Fisher was awesome last year" I simply think that's rosey glasses and it's not true.

What can you tell us about his rehab? Is he running yet? Has he been hitting the weights while resting his knee or have the doctors advised him to lay low?

 

[Duckjake]

Speaking of LB's what is the status of Michael Young? He had that big game against the Lions and not much else. Are his days numbered with the signing of Darling?

 

[Wildman©]

Ed:
Your second paragraph is very true ( the part after, "I am not a FOOTBALL expert...") It happened to all of our OLBs... almost like they were taught that way.... nah... I'll give the coaches the benefit of the doubt. I do think, however, that our coaches were very concerned, and rightly so, with stopping the run first... that often translates into more bitting on play action.

I would like to point out that, IMO at least, Fish did have a major (minor?) impact. I believe he is THE reason that R. Thompson's OLB play improved... I get the impression from most posts I have read on this matter, that most of you think that, for the most part, overall LB play improved. Tell me honestly, do you think that all improvement was a result of "another year's experience"? I think it was a result of COMPETITION...

As far as I know Fish is training (including running). I do not know at what intensity level... When I saw him last he seemed to be pleased with his progress. I tried not to talk too much FOOTBALL during that visit as he could not stay long AND his new bride was with him. I wanted her to feel welcome to our "family". I do hope to see him in the very near future and I will tell him of this board's interest.