Is Porter ever going to get a new HC job?

[slinslin]

Especially so if the Suns make the playoffs now?

 

[lou_skywalker]

yeah, maybe in a high school in New Mexico

 

[HooverDam]

From what we heard about Porter being heavy handed, focusing a lot on teaching and fundamentals, etc. maybe he'd make a better college coach.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Says the PG who led his team to 3 consecutive 140 point games

 

[AnotherHOMER]

Not in the NBA

 

[Bufalay]

No, but maybe he can be Frank Johnson's assistant at Frank's next HC job.

 

[Mainstreet]

The coaching ranks are like a country club. Some team will forget about the circumstances surrounding Porter's dismissal because he had only one losing season as a HC in three seasons.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Porter got a bad rap here. I was all in when Porter was hired, but I eventually became lukewarm about him over the course of the season. However, he didn't get a fair shot and as a result, ownership chose to forgo short term pain for a long term paradigm shift for the franchise.

They could have let him build this team his way. Give him a couple of offseasons, a couple of drafts. Get rid of the malcontents and spoiled brats that comprise this roster (and have since the beginning of this franchise). Bring in toughness and grit. Change the overall dynamic of this team. That's the fair shot he deserved.

Instead, we get an ownership group who is afraid to bite that bullet, so what we'll get is another 40+ years without a championship because they are afraid of the discomfort that comes with a paradigm shift.

While people around here got impatient with Porter, the real culprits in all of this are the players who weren't willing to man up and the ownership group who would rather satiate short term fan base impatience against the long term gains of ultimately making this team a legitimate contender.

I grew lukewarm on Porter because he didn't do enough. He didn't bench Amare. He didn't bench Nash. The only players who held it down through all this were Shaq, JRich, Barbosa and Hill. Nash put up effort, but he became a malcontent and for that he should have rode some pine. Amare was an outright loafer and he should have been sent to the showers sometimes. Porter should have stamped this team that way and upper management should have let him....

 

[Bufalay]

Porter got a bad rap here. I was all in when Porter was hired, but I eventually became lukewarm about him over the course of the season. However, he didn't get a fair shot and as a result, ownership chose to forgo short term pain for a long term paradigm shift for the franchise.

They could have let him build this team his way. Give him a couple of offseasons, a couple of drafts. Get rid of the malcontents and spoiled brats that comprise this roster (and have since the beginning of this franchise). Bring in toughness and grit. Change the overall dynamic of this team. That's the fair shot he deserved.

Instead, we get an ownership group who is afraid to bite that bullet, so what we'll get is another 40+ years without a championship because they are afraid of the discomfort that comes with a paradigm shift.

While people around here got impatient with Porter, the real culprits in all of this are the players who weren't willing to man up and the ownership group who would rather satiate short term fan base impatience against the long term gains of ultimately making this team a legitimate contender.

I grew lukewarm on Porter because he didn't do enough. He didn't bench Amare. He didn't bench Nash. The only players who held it down through all this were Shaq, JRich, Barbosa and Hill. Nash put up effort, but he became a malcontent and for that he should have rode some pine. Amare was an outright loafer and he should have been sent to the showers sometimes. Porter should have stamped this team that way and upper management should have let him....

Bench everyone!

 

[elindholm]

Porter got a bad rap here. I was all in when Porter was hired, but I eventually became lukewarm about him over the course of the season. However, he didn't get a fair shot and as a result, ownership chose to forgo short term pain for a long term paradigm shift for the franchise.

They could have let him build this team his way. Give him a couple of offseasons, a couple of drafts. Get rid of the malcontents and spoiled brats that comprise this roster (and have since the beginning of this franchise). Bring in toughness and grit. Change the overall dynamic of this team. That's the fair shot he deserved.

Instead, we get an ownership group who is afraid to bite that bullet, so what we'll get is another 40+ years without a championship because they are afraid of the discomfort that comes with a paradigm shift.

While people around here got impatient with Porter, the real culprits in all of this are the players who weren't willing to man up and the ownership group who would rather satiate short term fan base impatience against the long term gains of ultimately making this team a legitimate contender.

I grew lukewarm on Porter because he didn't do enough. He didn't bench Amare. He didn't bench Nash. The only players who held it down through all this were Shaq, JRich, Barbosa and Hill. Nash put up effort, but he became a malcontent and for that he should have rode some pine. Amare was an outright loafer and he should have been sent to the showers sometimes. Porter should have stamped this team that way and upper management should have let him....

What evidence do you have that Porter had anything to teach anyone? If I went on the radio and said, "We're going to play tough defense," would that make me a coach too?

 

[TRW]

Not for another 2 years at least. $2 mil per year left to do nothing isn't a bad gig

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Because of how he was as a player and the systems he both played under and coached in....

 

[Chaplin]

Because of how he was as a player and the systems he both played under and coached in....

He wasn't hired as the coach of a rebuilding team, so I'm not sure why you give him a pass here. He was hired to take a good team and try to make it better by instituting a defensive philosophy. That's it.

And he failed miserably.

 

[TBaslim]

He wasn't hired as the coach of a rebuilding team, so I'm not sure why you give him a pass here. He was hired to take a good team and try to make it better by instituting a defensive philosophy. That's it.

And he failed miserably.

Agreed. This point seems lost on everyone who is defending Porter.

He was a nice guy, but was not given a young team to rebuild. He was handed a veteran playoff team with a roster that had success playing uptempo bball and needed to play somewhat better defense. He tried to turn them into something they were not, all while treating them like 5 year olds. It didn't work.

I'm fine with the players (Nash, Amare, all of them) having some shared blame for how bad things got, but am getting really tired of the instant revisionist history that somehow makes bad coaching only the player's problem.

On that note, these national TV commentators like Jeff Van Stumpy need to **** big time.

 

[nashman]

Simply put NO he was terrible and doesn't really deserve a second shot.

 

[arwillan]

Actually i think he deserves a second shot with a team that has the personnel to better fit what he wants to coach.

He did what Kerr asked. He coached defense over offense. The players didn't buy into it, that's all. Granted, we all know this team does not have the players to be a good defensive team. But he did his job. I can't fault him for that. He just didn't have the players on his side. Let's face it: he inherited a talented mess when he got hired. The team wasn't very good under him, but certainly not as bad as it could've been. He at least kept them over .500.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

JVG was being a horses ass today during the celtics game. I know he was just playing devils advocate, but he was putting way too much blame on the team. Porter destroyed the offense, period.

 

[arwillan]

JVG was being a horses ass today during the celtics game. I know he was just playing devils advocate, but he was putting way too much blame on the team. Porter destroyed the offense, period.

i agree he destroyed the offense. But again, his job was to get the team focused on defense. Not many coaches in the league could make a run and gun offense work in combination with Shaq in the post. It's not an easy thing to do.

 

[Errntknght]

I don't think Porter got a fair shake but primarily it had to do with him taking the job from a position of weakness. I don't know if the man has other coaches who want hitch their star to his but if he does he wasn't allowed to bring them in with him - or he didn't have the guts to insist on it. I also don't know if any of the assts the Suns supplied intentionally undercut him but it was something he couldn't be sure of and they might not have tried as hard as they could have to help him. The poor guy was here all by his lonesome with high expectations to satisfy - he probably felt like he was walking on quicksand. It certainly looked like the players were not eagerly cooperative. Hopefully, he'll learn from this if he wants to make a career coaching in the NBA. He has my sympathies though I wanted him ousted a couple of months ago - I just didn't see any positives.

Hopefully, Kerr learned something from this, too - any coach that will let you dictate his corps of assistants isn't worth having. He's got to have people around him that he knows - knows what they can do and knows that he can bank on them. At the very least they need to beholden to him for their jobs.