Is This A Reversion to the D'Antoni System?

[Skumbag]

it is really frustrating to me that to some apparently there are no other options between DA v Porter (as if everyone who wanted DA gone were thrilled with Porter).

We all love Amundson for his energy and plenty guys just like him get the same love. DA gave a **** about the team and you see it in his action. He got pushed out but he left on his own accord as to not look like a d-bag like Starbury waiting for a handout. Sorry I'm drunk but it makes sense to me

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[Mainstreet]

DA gave a **** about the team and you see it in his action. He got pushed out but he left on his own accord as to not look like a d-bag like Starbury waiting for a handout. Sorry I'm drunk but it makes sense to me

Somewhere reality will intercede. It is not always one way or the other. DA was quite successful in Phoenix. He would be in big demand this season with all the coach firings even if NY did not hire him.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

it is really frustrating to me that to some apparently there are no other options between DA v Porter (as if everyone who wanted DA gone were thrilled with Porter).

My contenion was - what better option was out there?

Thats why these coach firings really frustrate me sometime all across sports. It doesn't always come down to is "DA the answer?" - sometimes it is "Is he close to the answer then anyone else we can get?"

I have already mentioned that I think DA is one of the top 5 coaches. And cheese you said as much in the list you made of elite coaches - and I agree with that list - but what 3 or 4 guys above DA on your list were we going to get to make this a worthwhile transition?

Or is there somebody else out there you think had more "potential" as coach of this team?

That's what frustrates me...

 

[Arizona's Finest]

We all love Amundson for his energy and plenty guys just like him get the same love. DA gave a **** about the team and you see it in his action. He got pushed out but he left on his own accord as to not look like a d-bag like Starbury waiting for a handout. Sorry I'm drunk but it makes sense to me

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Post of the Year!

Even funnier is Mainstreet trying to respond to it seriously.

 

[DeAnna]

Maybe because all the players loved playing for him? The only reasons Grant Hill, Shaq, et al, came here was because of D'Antoni. He treated them like men, not children, and did not micro-manage them.

He used positive-reinforcement, not criticism, to give them confidence. That translated onto the court.

Here's another one:

* Nate Robinson on D'Antoni: "He's a winning coach and he brings a positive attitude to the game. it's something that the players love. They love a coach that has confidence in them. The way coach helps us by giving us confidence, by playing together as a team, we're playing for each other instead of playing for ourselves."

 

[Cheesebeef]

My contenion was - what better option was out there?

Thats why these coach firings really frustrate me sometime all across sports. It doesn't always come down to is "DA the answer?" - sometimes it is "Is he close to the answer then anyone else we can get?"

I have already mentioned that I think DA is one of the top 5 coaches. And cheese you said as much in the list you made of elite coaches - and I agree with that list - but what 3 or 4 guys above DA on your list were we going to get to make this a worthwhile transition?

Or is there somebody else out there you think had more "potential" as coach of this team?

That's what frustrates me...

if we were going to try to hold on to the notion that we were still contender, this team should have gone after Rick Carlysle, who I forgot to put up there with Byron and DA and he was available. His teams consistently over-achieve every year and he's been to the Conference Finals with two different teams.

However, I was of mind (and still am) that we were finished as contenders and it was better to blow the whole thing up, including Nash and DA and to start the rebuilding process now, rather than later.

but Sarver did what Sarver does best - keep as many pennies in his pocket as he can. So, instead of acknowledging we were finished, he kept the core together to try and sell tickets, but he went cheap with the coach and we got what we paid for.

 

[mojorizen7]

if we were going to try to hold on to the notion that we were still contender, this team should have gone after Rick Carlysle, who I forgot to put up there with Byron and DA and he was available. His teams consistently over-achieve every year and he's been to the Conference Finals with two different teams.

However, I was of mind (and still am) that we were finished as contenders and it was better to blow the whole thing up, including Nash and DA and to start the rebuilding process now, rather than later.

but Sarver did what Sarver does best - keep as many pennies in his pocket as he can. So, instead of acknowledging we were finished, he kept the core together to try and sell tickets, but he went cheap with the coach and we got what we paid for.

Couldn't agree more & that was definately my stance going into the offseason.
So then the SUNS went out & signed Barnes who was on my radar before the signing actually went down(pats self on the back)and Shaq showed up ready to play this year(which has surprised me i admit),then we greatly upgrade the 2 with the JRich/Bell trade , also a light seems to have come on in Barbosa's head reminding him that it's ok to play hard on the defensive end.......and now i'm forced to think this team can possibly do something in the playoffs if Porter can find some continuity and get us there(playoffs).

 

[Cheesebeef]

Couldn't agree more & that was definately my stance going into the offseason.
So then the SUNS went out & signed Barnes who was on my radar before the signing actually went down(pats self on the back)and Shaq showed up ready to play this year(which has surprised me i admit),then we greatly upgrade the 2 with the JRich/Bell trade , also a light seems to have come on in Barbosa's head reminding him that it's ok to play hard on the defensive end.......and now i'm forced to think this team can possibly do something in the playoffs if Porter can find some continuity and get us there(playoffs).

THIS team (with Richardson) would have had a better shot with DA, who regardless of his faults, is a better coach than Porter. That being said, they'd still have no shot. They might've surprised someone if they stayed completely healthy (although knowing DA both Hill and Shaq wouldhave probably been logging heavy minutes and one would be broken down or on the verge of broken down by now), but they'd be one and done at best IMO... and that's probably they're ceiling now.

 

[mojorizen7]

THIS team (with Richardson) would have had a better shot with DA, who regardless of his faults, is a better coach than Porter. That being said, they'd still have no shot. They might've surprised someone if they stayed completely healthy (although knowing DA both Hill and Shaq wouldhave probably been logging heavy minutes and one would be broken down or on the verge of broken down by now), but they'd be one and done at best IMO... and that's probably they're ceiling now.

Well we're gonna have to disagree. We'll see i guess. I thought that getting teams to the playoffs was what DA did best. Its what he did or didn't do while in a playoff series that was his weakness.
I agree that D'Antoni is a better overall coach than Porter at this point.
D'Antoni has the credentials but i still think if THIS team can finally figure out who they are and make the playoffs they'll have more success than if D'Antoni were coaching it with his approach. Porter has shown the willingness to experiment at least(although he's probably got Kerr whispering to him thru a small bluetooth earpiece from the boxseat).
Dumping the ball into a healthy Shaq/Amare with JRich/Nash/Barnes/Barbosa on the perimeter IMO is a much more sound method of winning playoff games than just pick & rolling Nash/Stat and jacking up 3's for four quarters. We've tried that before.
Bottom line: They've made some decent moves to give themselves a chance to make a run but have a ways to go in order to find that balance of when to run & when to walk "personality."
They should have moved Nash,Bell etc when D'Antoni left because its very hard to try to change the atmosphere and philosophy from fun n gun casual to anything resembling what we've seen thus far with Porter without changing the personel too.