splitsecond
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IMO this was as integral a part of making Brady the GOAT as his game play. Winners do what it takes to win, at the expense of self-enrichment when necessary. It's that simple.
Is this the end of the New England Patriots' dynasty?
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IMO this was as integral a part of making Brady the GOAT as his game play. Winners do what it takes to win, at the expense of self-enrichment when necessary. It's that simple.
GatorAZ
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Bill wanted to move on from Brady before that. Kraft overruled him and they got one more ring vs the Rams out of it. I think Belichick playing GM took his focus away from strictly coaching and the draft/FA misses have proven it.
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Tom Brady made them but I can see Bill fixing things and getting on a run. Cam Newton has cost them 3 games this year. Win 2 of them and they are 4-3.
Right how’s Pop been without Duncan, Manu and Parker
How did Phil Jackson do NY
great talent on the field/court is the biggest factor in winning, guys who have never competed in anything or aren’t athletic love to trick themselves into thinking it’s all coaching.
Bill is a really good defensive coach. He can game plan to take away what a team wants to do.
If they get a good QB...maybe like Cousins or even Brisett...they can put together a good enough D at full strength to be a playoff team
If they get a good QB...maybe like Cousins or even Brisett...they can put together a good enough D at full strength to be a playoff team
Really?
If Rex is saying that then it's definitely not over.
The whole Brady - BB thing is over simplified. They are both great. Neither could be great without the other one being great.
Brady isn't going to win with Hue Jackson as his HC. And BB isn't going to win with Mark Sanchez at QB.
The Pats were always going to be bad this year. I was amazed when I saw people in the NFL media having them top 10 in pre season rankings. A new QB, a short off season, several opt outs, weak receivers.
It's over this year, but I expect them to be much, much better next year.
Garthshort
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IMO, yes.
overseascardfan
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Guess the debate as to who was more instrumental in NE's decade of success has been answered. Brady has TB at 6-2 and NE is 2-5. You need a QB no matter how good a HC you are.
They need a decent QB who can run their offense. I don't know who that will be, but they dont have to be a superstar is what I'm saying.
I think they could get Brisett back and be a playoff team.
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It's really not that simple. TB was a mediocre team last year with a much worse QB. NE on top of not having even a decent QB has multiple very good players that opted out for the year. Give NE an above average QB right now and they probably are more like 3-4 or 4-3. Possibly even better without the hold outs.
overseascardfan
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Brady worked wonders with lesser talent in NE than he currently has in TB. If Brady was in NE now they'd arguably be 5-2, Cam has really been that bad for NE.
WisconsinCard
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I'll just say...I hope so. Arrogant bunch over there.
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TheCardFan
Things have changed.
Cardinal Bob
Glutton for Punishment
After 20 years of nothing but success, it's about time. I always tell my family, who are all Pats fans, that's it's gonna end someday and when it does, it's gonna be painful. The Pats look bad most weeks, and I still can't f-ing believe we lost to them. 
jmt
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Hope it’s the end but seeing is believing. A down year or two doesn’t mean the end of a “dynasty”. Ask again next year.
WisconsinCard
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I sure would love to see the mighty fall. They were the laughing stock of the NFL for years and years. I for one hope they return to just that.
Jetstream Green
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Belichick is great and so is Brady but it took both of them to have a modern day dynasty
This thread will not age well
