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Originally posted by vikesfan
I know all that. You are not telling me anything new. I agree with you.

Who got us Bennett Culpepper and Moss? DG did! And when did the Vikes become the new Cards? When DG left. When the DG leftovers leave or age we will be the Cards. Our owner is pulling a Bidwill/Brown type move. That is why DG resigned. Our owner was going cheap. And DG would not coach unless the owner was willing to do what it takes to win a SB. The only good players on the team are from DG.

What will you do when Red McCombs moves the Vikes to San Antonio?

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Then you should change your handle from "vikesfan" to "Dennis Green's Jockstrap Rider".

HUH? THIS MAKES NO SENSE. WANTING A GREAT COACH/GM ON YOUR TEAM IS BEING A JOCKSTRAP RIDER?


"As I remember, Green was essentially forced out of Minny, and then couldn't find a job the past two years."

I already in detail wrote out what happened in Minne in another post maybe you can find it and read it.
I forget what thread it was.
Maybe somebody can repost it for you, or direct you to. It was long and went in great detail.
Short version Red did not want to spend money on quality FAs or front office staff and DG wanted him to. Since DG is interested in winning a SB not having a job he resigned.

DG turned down Jax. DG would only go to a team where he had control or he trusted those in control (SF and Walsh). That is why he picked the Cards over say the Raiders and Jax. Great coaches just don't take any job look at Parcells waiting for the right opportunity.
 

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Originally posted by Pariah
I thought I heard that the Vikings were moving to LA...


Yeah and I remember NEM coming to this baord saying the same thing about the Cards moving to LA. Pissed everyone off here......of course that doesnt seem to stop anyone from regergetating the same thing!
 

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The Vikes would already be in LA if they didn't have an ironclad lease. If there is no new stadium by 2011 the Vikes will probably move then.
Only the lease has kept the Vikes in Minne. Red is only interested in profit he paid 200 mil for the team and as soon as someone gives him 600 mil he will sell. LA offered 600 mil (Young group) but the lease stopped the sale.
 
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Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Yeah and I remember NEM coming to this baord saying the same thing about the Cards moving to LA. Pissed everyone off here......of course that doesnt seem to stop anyone from regergetating the same thing!

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Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Yeah and I remember NEM coming to this baord saying the same thing about the Cards moving to LA. Pissed everyone off here......of course that doesnt seem to stop anyone from regergetating the same thing!
Nope, in fact, my own wounds help me to find the soft underbelly of others.
 
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Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Yeah and I remember NEM coming to this baord saying the same thing about the Cards moving to LA. Pissed everyone off here......of course that doesnt seem to stop anyone from regergetating the same thing!


Did you just mentioned NEM? ok back to discussion. :rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by vikesfan

HUH? THIS MAKES NO SENSE. WANTING A GREAT COACH/GM ON YOUR TEAM IS BEING A JOCKSTRAP RIDER?

Because you just implied that you don't like the Vikings, because their coach/GM/management/non-Green-selected players all suck. That seems to me that you're not, in fact, a Vikes' fan, insomuch as you just have a fixation on Dennis Green. That's all.
 
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Originally posted by kerouac9
Because you just implied that you don't like the Vikings, because their coach/GM/management/non-Green-selected players all suck. That seems to me that you're not, in fact, a Vikes' fan, insomuch as you just have a fixation on Dennis Green. That's all.

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
Ehh, I dunno.
If you get condescending on people, they're going to poke ya a little.

Well I apologize if I sounded condescending. I am not into that. I do not engage in personal attacks etc. I love talking football but I don't personalize. If my tone comes across that way it is not meant to.
Still even if I had done something wrong on purpose (which I didn't) 2 wrongs don't make a right.
 

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Originally posted by kerouac9
Because you just implied that you don't like the Vikings, because their coach/GM/management/non-Green-selected players all suck. That seems to me that you're not, in fact, a Vikes' fan, insomuch as you just have a fixation on Dennis Green. That's all.


This is ludicrous, because I am able to objectively analyze my team I am not a fan of that team?
I am a Vikings fan not cheerleader I don't see the world through purple coloured glasses.

I never said I don't like the Vikes In fact my criticisms exist because I do like the Vikes and I want them to be on top like they were under DG and Bud Grant. I said I don't like Red's Thrift Plan which cost us DG. I don't like not having a real GM. I don't like Tice making player decisions and being coach.
I said these things would prevent us from winning. And I was right.

Being realistic I think shows more love for something then being unrealistic. If your kid sucks at school and you are all nice to him and think that he will make it to University because of that - it ain't gonna happen. You have to realistically see where the kid is failing and get on his ass to make sure he improves in those areas.


As for the DG thing. I have explained this in several posts. He was/is treated unfairly by the media and fans in Minnesota. The lies about him are incredible I can make a list and debunk each one. In the interests of justice I want to see him stick it these people. It's just like watching a movie you want to see the bad guys get it. If they had not lied and lied and lied about him and visciously attacked him (some of it racial) then I wouldn't care. But because of this I would love to see him stick it these people. Doesn't that make sense? Read my tagline.

If someone did someone who did a lot for you dirt wouldn't you want the guy to get the last laugh.


Apparently lots of people have 2 or more favourite teams. I never did and am against the concept. But alas now I have a 2nd favourite team - whatever team DG is coaching. I hope he as success but this success doesn't cost the Vikes a SB or playoff win or playoffs or wins in any way. But that leaves a lot of wiggle room for me to cheer for DG's team. If he had been treated right and fairly in Minne instead of being libeled repeatedly and then lynched I wouldn't give a crap about where he went or what he did.
 
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Originally posted by vikesfan
Well I apologize if I sounded condescending. I am not into that. I do not engage in personal attacks etc. I love talking football but I don't personalize. If my tone comes across that way it is not meant to.
Still even if I had done something wrong on purpose (which I didn't) 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Selective memory is no excuse. I seem to remember quite a few RACISM accusations. That is extremely personal and inexcusable. :roll:
 

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Originally posted by wallyburger
Selective memory is no excuse. I seem to remember quite a few RACISM accusations. That is extremely personal and inexcusable. :roll:

I never said anyone was a racist.
 
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Originally posted by vikesfan
I never said anyone was a racist.

Yes you did. on 3 seperate occasions , you flat out called me a RACIST in your rants. That is as personal as one can get.

Selective memory, once again is your excuse. Deny it if you want, but the proof is in your posts. And your basis for Racism accusations was because no one can dare say a negative word about your beloved Dennis Green.

You asked for it. You got it. No emoticons required for this one.
 

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Originally posted by wallyburger
Yes you did. on 3 seperate occasions , you flat out called me a RACIST in your rants. That is as personal as one can get.

Selective memory, once again is your excuse. Deny it if you want, but the proof is in your posts. And your basis for Racism accusations was because no one can dare say a negative word about your beloved Dennis Green.

You asked for it. You got it. No emoticons required for this one.

Aren't all my posts on here, still up? Why don't you cut and paste those 3 posts where I FLAT OUT called you a racist. And if you didn't say anything racist and I FLAT OUT called you a racist I can apologize to you.

Of course people can say negative things about DG. But if they say racist things like they do in Minnesota 24/7 365 then I will call them on it. Maybe I am a little oversensitive since racism is a sickening reality when it comes to the Vikes in Minnesota. Like I said it has been documented by the major newspaper by Tice and by the Archbishop of the State.

Just curious what do you think of DG? What do you think of Dungy? What do you think of McNair. What do you think of Culpepper.

BTW do you think stalking me on this board and cheapshotting me with the Vikeyboy crap and other personal attacks is really a mature response to the percieved slight I dealt you? How about shaking hands and acting like adults and putting this thing to rest?
 
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Originally posted by vikesfan
Aren't all my posts on here, still up? Why don't you cut and paste those 3 posts where I FLAT OUT called you a racist. And if you didn't say anything racist and I FLAT OUT called you a racist I can apologize to you.

Of course people can say negative things about DG. But if they say racist things like they do in Minnesota 24/7 365 then I will call them on it. Maybe I am a little oversensitive since racism is a sickening reality when it comes to the Vikes in Minnesota. Like I said it has been documented by the major newspaper by Tice and by the Archbishop of the State.

Just curious what do you think of DG? What do you think of Dungy? What do you think of McNair. What do you think of Culpepper.

BTW do you think stalking me on this board and cheapshotting me with the Vikeyboy crap and other personal attacks is really a mature response to the percieved slight I dealt you? How about shaking hands and acting like adults and putting this thing to rest?

Poor little you. You know you called me a racist repeatedly. You are Guilty as charged. You came into a public forum and exposed yourself. If you weren't so paranoid, life would be easier for you. The remedy is for you to stop ranting at people and try enjoying this forum, instead of using it as your attack podium. You turn every discussion into an argument and do your best to take the enjoyment out of the exercise with your extreme viewpoints. It's just a game, not life and death. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, including you, but once you impose your skewed beliefs on the rest of us, you are exceeding the bounds of decency. Going through life so bitter is a waste of time. Stick a muffler between your brain and your mouth.

P.S.Do your own research. This exchange is over. The End. :bang:
 

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Originally posted by wallyburger

P.S.Do your own research.

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I'm growing as tired of our houseguest as the next guy, but to be fair, I searched for "vikesfan" and "racist" and didn't see his call anyone a racist except maybe Red McCombs.

And, if you're going to accuse someone of libel, the burden of proof is on you to prove guild, not on him to prove innocence.
 
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Originally posted by Pariah
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I'm growing as tired of our houseguest as the next guy, but to be fair, I searched for "vikesfan" and "racist" and didn't see his call anyone a racist except maybe Red McCombs.

And, if you're going to accuse someone of libel, the burden of proof is on you to prove guild, not on him to prove innocence.

I'm done with him. I didn't make it up. I am not delusional. It is way too personal to be here. I think you would remember when someone used an incendiary term like " racist " on you. Believe what you want. I don't need to prove anything to him. He knows and is trying to cover his butt. Let's put it this way. I reported one of the offending posts ( the last of the 3 ), calling me, a racist, to the moderator. As far as going back and publishing his "quotes", that is anti forum. I don't think anyone wants to follow some personal argument , as entertaining as it might seem. Done. Over. Finis. I'm not going down to his level anymore.

It's just not smart calling someone a Racist in this forum.

If you are interested in upholding the justice sytem, I will PM you the quotes, but I am not going to bore the group with this personal crap.
 

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Originally posted by wallyburger

If you are interested in upholding the justice sytem, I will PM you the quotes, but I am not going to bore the group with this personal crap.
I'll pass, thanks! :thumbup:
 

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